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Topic: Should Sweet Peas In The Rain Be Closed?
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T Knowflake Posts: 8496 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 02:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by SunChild: Yes T I think with the description it can be confusing to know (for newbies) where to post what- just a simple support forum. Emphasize sensitivity instead of adult content.?Ideas are moving and this is good.
Yea-yuh! IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 8496 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 02:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by cathy: I agree with just about all that T has suggested.
Thank you. Just lookin' out. IP: Logged |
Love&Light Knowflake Posts: 534 From: India Registered: Oct 2011
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posted February 28, 2013 02:58 AM
@ Randall First you will have to decide on whether you want some taboo topics or not. If yes then how to curtail them. I don't see any reason to wipe them out completely. Just my opinion. IP: Logged |
Venus Moderator Posts: 1674 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted February 28, 2013 02:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Venus, what about an emotional support Forum? I do like the name Sweet Peas In The Rain, though. Maybe remove the long description and just put one sentence. Or start from scratch brand new. What sayeth ye?
dunno. if you label a forum "emotional support" i would be less likely to ask for it there.. not sure if it makes sense, what I’m trying to say people who are depressed won't feel comfortable addressing their problems in a forum that is just for that purpose for the same reason they don't seek therapy. Denial. or they would compare themselves to other posters with perhaps more serious problems and undermine their own and become reluctant to share. sweet peas is a mesh of different topics, some fun and kinky others more serious and warm. that's why i believe it should stay.
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SunChild Moderator Posts: 3660 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 03:02 AM
It means so many different things to many different people. ^^^ It's a tough oneIP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 497 From: my molted scorp shell Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 28, 2013 03:12 AM
quote: T: Don't worry, I'll protect you. Come with me....Been around all these parts awhile. I know the back alleyways....
!!! Are you gonna take me somewhere dark and secluded then sell me scent oils? 'Cause I doubt Lindaland would be a neighbourhood with dealers of the other sort... IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 8496 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 03:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by somethingexcellent: !!! Are you gonna take me somewhere dark and secluded then sell me scent oils? 'Cause I doubt Lindaland would be a neighbourhood with dealers of the other sort...
I might sit you down and read your Tarot cards or palm. Would you like that? IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 8496 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 03:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by SunChild: It means so many different things to many different people. ^^^ It's a tough one
I like the idea of a support forum. ________________________ If you want to talk about kinky stuff, there are plenty of other places on the web to do so. :ducks: quote: sweet peas is a mesh of different topics, some fun and kinky others more serious and warm. that's why i believe it should stay.
well.....it was....lol IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 8496 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 03:37 AM
LL can still be warm, serious and helpful and healing, w/o that place. no?It was that way before, and will still be that way however it goes. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 8496 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 03:48 AM
quote: I used to think of it as the Pluto realm of Lindaland. Sacral Chakra as well, considering it was the bottom-most forum on the list.
Dive bar. That's all I have to say.....dive bar. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 8496 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 03:50 AM
and at least it's not referred to as the root chakra....now that would be the bottom of the bottom. (excluding the small chakras in the feet) IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 1669 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 28, 2013 05:32 AM
I would like to see crap threads totally deleted; especially the ones that went off into disruptive pervert land and got closed. There are lots of good threads that do not involve sexual practices, fetishes, and so forth. It is one thing to discuss sexual problems, and another thing entirely to discuss what gets people off yadda yadda. There are lots of good threads here concerning miscarriages, abortion, rape/abuse, death, grief, severe depression, suicide, and so forth. That was what I felt Sweet Peas was supposed to be for mostly. As for sexual topics; there are spiritual related ones such as those that deal with Tantra, Shaktipat, Sacred Sex, and so forth. Just eliminate the blatant sex for jollies threads. And I have wanted to be more strict; but when it is not simply a few trolls, some with multiple names, and some members overtly over using it as flirt land zone; but also to my dismay, a few moderators encouraging some to be naughty; so well, I am tired of being the big meany spoiling the "fun" and finding sly snotty jabs made at me because I tried/try to enforce the rules. One mod had awhile back, even reopened threads I closed that I felt had become OTT.Randall I will try and write to you about this forum sometime today. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 3932 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 28, 2013 06:32 AM
Gone without a warning? There were some sensitive topics under discussion- one woman lost her daughter.Plus I was having an ongoing discussion with Xiiro, and that's obliterated? I would have loved it if someone moved the thread first. Seriously bummed out. Couldn't we have had some time to adjust? The sun is transiting my Pholus today~ I knew something crazy would happen. IP: Logged |
charmainec Moderator Posts: 6129 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 06:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lexxigramer: I would like to see crap threads totally deleted; especially the ones that went off into disruptive pervert land and got closed. There are lots of good threads that do not involve sexual practices, fetishes, and so forth. It is one thing to discuss sexual problems, and another thing entirely to discuss what gets people off yadda yadda. There are lots of good threads here concerning miscarriages, abortion, rape/abuse, death, grief, severe depression, suicide, and so forth. That was what I felt Sweet Peas was supposed to be for mostly. As for sexual topics; there are spiritual related ones such as those that deal with Tantra, Shaktipat, Sacred Sex, and so forth. Just eliminate the blatant sex for jollies threads. And I have wanted to be more strict; but when it is not simply a few trolls, some with multiple names, and some members overtly over using it as flirt land zone; but also to my dismay, a few moderators encouraging some to be naughty; so well, I am tired of being the big meany spoiling the "fun" and finding sly snotty jabs made at me because I tried/try to enforce the rules. One mod had awhile back, even reopened threads I closed that I felt had become OTT.Randall I will try and write to you about this forum sometime today.
Lexx, there was one thread was closed and then later I noticed it was reopened. I didn't know who closed it but I did comment about someone not being able to make up their mind as the thread kept opening and closing. The comment I made was not meant as a jab at you if it's the same thread you're talking about. It was just getting confusing seeing the thread locked and reopened. It looked like a Mod battle going on. I later found out it was Randall who opened it. Just wanted to clear the air about that. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1206 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted February 28, 2013 07:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Gone without a warning? There were some sensitive topics under discussion- one woman lost her daughter.Plus I was having an ongoing discussion with Xiiro, and that's obliterated? I would have loved it if someone moved the thread first. Seriously bummed out. Couldn't we have had some time to adjust? The sun is transiting my Pholus today~ I knew something crazy would happen. 'Like getting the rug ripped out from under my feet.
Yeah, it would be good if you could at least go rescue some of those threads.------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
7thGuardian Knowflake Posts: 682 From: Transylvania Registered: May 2012
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posted February 28, 2013 07:41 AM
Well, it's a private forum - your house, your rules - there's not really much room for democracy (voting) in situations like this. Some people are more open to certain subjects - wile others... not so much - so, in the end it's all about subjective opinions based on what feels comfortable to you or not.It's not like this forum was representative by that sub-category from the bottom... Was like a channel on TV - if some users didn't like it, didn't approve with what was discussed there - "they had the option to switch the channel" - it's not like somebody forced them to be active there. It was a matter of choice - and they chose to participate in those discussions, at least - until they hit a psychological wall - a insecurity, a inability to cope with the openness of sexuality. Cause frankly - exploring the boundaries of sexuality is "a mature subject"... just - "not for everybody". Same as - being open in terms of religion or occultism is not for everybody. If they did that in - what seemed like a childish way... it's - because of the way some minds work around tabu subjects - "sarcasm" can help us with being more open, wile acting very serious about it - can lead to repression. A "dedicated section" to tabu subjects "is normal" and even present among other major forums. It's a place where you can be open about this type of subjects... "so, they won't be discussed in other sections (after all it's not a sexually forum)" - a place where you can move topics related to that - which are bound to appear. Without it - it's just crippled from this point of view - if we're to talk about a community that's formed around this forum... where some of the active members might be interested in topics like this (as it was proven in that section)...and feel obligated to take it to another place (connections that were made around this forum). quote: "It could just be a place for more mature subject matter like depression, suicide, abuse, etc."
Already covered the mature part above - but there's something else worth to be added. I end-up as a member here wile having an interest for Astrology (and most users might fit this interest), it's not a Disney Land - type of forum and since we're in 2013 i didn't see much harm in what was discussed there in terms of sexuality (many younger generations already surpassed their predecessors from this point of view). On the other hand... subjects related "depression, suicide, abuse, etc" - "can be dangerous"... they can cause triggers (Trauma triggers) - and on a psychology forum - when you're to talk about such subject, you're obligated by forum rules to add a WARNING/TRIGGER in the description. "A trauma trigger is an experience that triggers a traumatic memory in someone who has experienced trauma. A trigger is thus a troubling reminder of a traumatic event, although the trigger itself need not be frightening or traumatic. Triggers can be quite diverse, appearing in the form of individual people, places, noises, images, smells, tastes, emotions, animals, films, scenes within films, dates of the year, tones of voice, body positions, bodily sensations, weather conditions, time factors, or combinations thereof. Triggers can be subtle and difficult to anticipate, and can sometimes exacerbate post-traumatic stress disorder, a condition in which trauma survivors cannot control the recurrence of emotional or physical symptoms, or of repressed memory." ...they might be fine till they get in to that subject and latter might feel the need to harm-themselves or worst. Talking about traumatic experiences with others can help (it's what therapies are intended for - but that - face to face with a professional)... I'm aware of that, but sometimes - it intensifies the issues and as a forum user (one who talks behind a anonymous user name with another member that can be thousands of miles away) - you can't be aware of what the other users are experiencing - beyond what they let you know. Well, this is my opinion on this subject. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 6155 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 07:44 AM
I`ve weighed in before and my opinion is much the same except the proofs in the pudding now. Lindaland is not a home for adult sexual discussions. It is human nature for it to go down the road it did. Give an inch ,a mile is taken and even responsible posters are in neck deep.. Leave adult sexual discussions to other forums and if needed, a support forum in it`s place. Also, it wasn`t just the forum or its description. It is allowing abusers to keep posting, changing their user names and stacking up warnings like a deck of cards. With stricter moding, rules followed up on, it can work . ------------------ We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39993 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 28, 2013 07:48 AM
I think it should stay, for a number of reasons. One is that people need a place to discuss taboo subjects. Randall can give the Mods guidance and we will follow it. If Randall thinks it is getting too raunchy, then we all need to be aware that we should close those threads. That is the minority of threads, though. I think people need to talk about all the things you cannot, in most places. That is performing a great service. That is my 2 cents.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39993 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 28, 2013 07:50 AM
We could take away the sexuality part, too. I really don't get anything from these threads and just ignore them, basically, but the other subjects like depression are very, very important to discuss. It could save a life. I am very in favor of leaving Sweet peas, for that.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 6155 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 07:54 AM
Mods can`t ignore when it is against the rules. Nor should Mods join in and break them. Both occurred along with a few allowed abusers and now the forum is gone . (for the time being anyhow) Gotta change up ,regroup and go forward . ------------------ We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 3932 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 28, 2013 08:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: We could take away the sexuality part, too. I really don't get anything from these threads and just ignore them, basically, but the other subjects like depression are very, very important to discuss. It could save a life. I am very in favor of leaving Sweet peas, for that.
I agree. Randall, With all due respect, and I mean it...why did you put this thread up if you weren't intending to let it stand long enough to garner many opinions? I feel like the decision was already carried out, after only a few people had their say. It seems like their opinion carried the most weight; either that or you had already made up your mind, and this thread wasn't necessary. Either way, advance notice would have been really appreciated. To have this discussion after the fact leaves an off taste in my mouth: like I just wasn't around for the little tiny window of time when my opinion may have mattered.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39993 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 28, 2013 08:53 AM
It seems like if the sexuality aspect were taken out, we could be OK. That is where the contention seems to be. Of course, sexual abuse should be allowed, imo, as that is not sexuality. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 2304 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 09:57 AM
I dont think enough opinions were gathered from enough folks before closing it.I would have liked to see it stay, just eliminating the sexual/intimacy portion. I liked the deeper subjects like suicide, depression, etc. t~ IP: Logged |
Yin Moderator Posts: 3179 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 10:33 AM
I'm alright with closing and deleting old posts,threads and forums that no longer serve a purpose. Out with the old, in with the new. Memories are sweeter this way.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 5174 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 28, 2013 10:37 AM
I didn't see the point at first, but I ha several threads there that I wanted to get back to - I'd avoided replying at the time, due to my own emotional state, and the fact that I have someone spying on me here.IP: Logged |