posted March 01, 2013 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
I do not know who you are referring to as a female Mod, Lexx. For my part in the flirting I have already apologized. Other than that I do not hold myself accountable for what has happened in Sweet Peas as I do not consider to have crossed the line myself. However, I have requested to be removed from the Mod squad for reasons I will keep to myself for now.

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posted March 01, 2013 02:55 PM            

It's a lose/lose situation because most of the times when people bringing it up in a way where it sounds clean,ultimately and especially with the subjects at hand here just like in life they become dark and rather dirty.I don't think there is any sort of way you can discuss these sort of thing's without it getting out of hand.They usually most always will end up being discussed in length by one's own personal experience.

Randall it's up to you to decide whether you want it to stay up or not regardless of what everyone else thinks about it.

posted March 01, 2013 05:12 PM            

I wanted to drop in and give my opinion (I am Sagittarian, it’s what we do). I discovered LL through a Google link to Astrology 2.0. I was so thrilled to find a place to discuss astrology, that it never dawned on me the site functioned beyond that room. After seeing a thread moved to a different room, I discovered the vast expanse of the Lindanet! I felt for a long time that there was no point in any of the other rooms. Asteroids were a valid part of astrology, personal readings were inevitable in a setting like LL, all could be crammed into one Astrology room, and if people had topics to discuss that were not Astrology related, why were they discussing them on a Linda Goodman forum?

It took me a year and a bit of boredom to really branch out and explore the other rooms. What I discovered was that LL is an entity. It provides sanctuary and nourishment for people and gives them the freedom to discuss real life with astrology in mind. When I walk out my door at night and look up at the sky, I see astrology in it. When a person is venting about problems with their partner, I see astrology in it. When my Scorpio dog sneaks off and eats my Leo dog’s food, while he begs for attention, I see astrology in it. In a sense it is a secret part of my life, because the people in my world don’t comprehend or understand. When I log into LL I can discuss these perspectives with people who enjoy and appreciate them.

In my boredom induced explorations I discovered Sweet Peas and it has now become a place I will exclusively visit on occasion. The reason it is so dear to me, is because it IS the Pluto-ruled, 8th House, Sacral Chakra of our community. One of the biggest ways I feel SP serves us is by mitigating these strong and harsh energies from developing in other rooms. Anyone who has been here long enough knows, if you are in a dark or antisocial mood, take it to the basement.

A few of us were maintaining an ongoing thread in SP, as Faith mentioned, because we enjoyed the freedom to discuss the astrological/spiritual implications of real life topics. I like the feeling that a topic could stray into taboo subjects with a reduced possibility of “more innocent” minds being offended.

Without going into much further of a rant. I think the fact that Sweet Peas is the home of so many LL users, is a testament to its value. There will always be trolls and people who violate the rules of a forum. That is why moderators are useful. Eliminating Sweet Peas feels to me less like a lumpectomy and more like cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face. As the creator of LL Randall, you are welcome to do whatever you like, so regardless of our input, you are going to do what you feel is best for the future of LL.

Please keep this in mind while you are considering removing SP. Some people just won’t understand the importance of or click with Sweet Peas, maybe you are even one of those people. I understand, because I’m personally not a fan of Divine Divinities. I approached DD expecting a place for civil discourse and sharing of educated, religious study. I have however grown to see DD as a place where religion obsessed people, who happen to also like astrology, can rant, bicker, and jab about the apocalypse, or spew discriminatory hate under the guise of religious freedom. Does that mean I think DD should be removed? Not at all, I am a moderator for DD and have never been present for an issue which required action to be taken. This is not because DD is fine in my opinion, but because I understand the offense I feel is personal, not universal. I appreciate that DD is a home to one of the vast many “types” of people who find sanctuary in LL.

Simply stated, if the problem with Sweet Peas is based on people breaking the rules, then perhaps the rules should be more strongly defined and enforced. Maybe the suspension of accounts for a number of days is something to consider when people can’t respect the rules? I feel removing SP will not solve the problem of inappropriate posts, but it will remove the centralized and contained location for where those posts often pop up.

posted March 01, 2013 06:04 PM            

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Keep it: 11 users
Moderate it better/want their old threads: 10 users
Close it, but didn't go there much any ways/were generally ambivalent: 2 users
Close it: 4 users

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Now to give my really real opinion:

I do want it back, but I don't want the moderators back. I say to un-mod them and re-elect a team that can actually be present and do their job well. I am not blaming anyone in specific, from Lexx being ganged up against to whoever else's own personal reasons for not being there. Lexx can even be re-elected mod! But there should be a new team.

posted March 01, 2013 07:19 PM            

More mods would probably have helped that.

posted March 01, 2013 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
Personally, I think Sweet Peas does have a place in Lindaland. Being able to discuss controversial topics openly has been of great help to many, myself included. It wasn't just an emotional support forum, it was much more than that. Violence, abuse, sex or criminal activity happen around us because they are a part of life, for whatever reason that may be, and are all over the news and the Internet. 50 shades of Grey was discussed at the 5 o'clock news in my country. I do not think pretending these topics don't exist helps us in any way, except to promote more fear, shame and judgment that are already associated with them. On the contrary, as others have said, I would prefer that impressionable minds gather their information in Sweet Peas where they can also get support and help for what they are dealing with, be it depression, abuse, loss, addiction, intimacy, eating disorders or sexual orientation. These things are part of life, hiding our heads in the sand regarding them doesn't make us more honorable or hollower than thou. I do agree, however, that such topics should be discussed in a tasteful manner and that Sweet Peas shouldn't be a sex or flirting forum.

My vote goes to keeping it under stricter moderation.

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Two thumbs up, totally agree.. Moderate the section a little more, but keep it. I found most of the sex/adult threads to be informative. These topics can be discussed in intelligent ways, without crossing the line. If the line is crossed, then that is where the moderators come in

posted March 01, 2013 07:31 PM            

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that a mature forum can have elements of 14 year old toilet talk.

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There are several posters in their late teens and early 20s.. I'm in my mid-20s.
Not everyone is 30/40+

posted March 01, 2013 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
whats wrong with being immature? i jumped off the maturity train at around 15 years old, maturity is ovverrated.

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posted March 01, 2013 08:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
who have a kind of fan club that seems to be a carry over from other sites (not LL)

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posted March 01, 2013 08:48 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
lexxigrammer , did i in anyway reference you in my post? no i didn't....so why are you taking it as a personal attack?

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posted March 01, 2013 08:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
There are several posters in their late teens and early 20s.. I'm in my mid-20s.
Not everyone is 30/40+

So I guess it's normal for conversations to have such elements...

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Not sure what the intended point is. I know 20 year olds can have conversations of a sexual nature without resorting to porn-chat, yeah?

posted March 01, 2013 08:52 PM            

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