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Anglerfish
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posted January 25, 2011 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anne Ortelee wrote this for yesterday
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Daughters fight with fathers. Pattern seers push against authorities that say they are wrong. “If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck….” Yes, it is a duck. See it clearly today. Nothing inherently wrong with ducks but a duck it is. Name it. The energy of your nest wants to be seen in a new light. Change those light bulbs! Switch out the vision of what you are going for.

Embrace your inner strength. Think of how much you have learned and grown. You can receive difficult news today as Sun links up with the Lord of Death and transformation by earth aspect. Saturn is stopped. All events take on an extra sense of being of value, important and are fraught with meaning. Why is this day different than other days? Saturn is stopped. Pay attention to his messages to you.


Saturn stopped in a 4 deg applying square to my Saturn.

This is what Saturn needs me to lose at my Saturn square. I know what I have to do.

I have it exact in October, and 1 deg separating in June 2012.

I am rather interested about how tPluto cj tSaturn will effect my Deja at my Saturn return.

I read that the period of life between the applying Saturn square and the Saturn Return is one of the most important in a person's life.


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posted January 25, 2011 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have Saturn transiting my 12 house which is bringing up a lot of junk... ugh

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posted January 25, 2011 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had my Nessus on the Saturn end on the Cardinal cross last year.

My dad came to my house and insisted I let him in and give him my number ( Merc in the 4th cj his Chiron)

I fully believed in Astrology after that day. Hie came to my house and said "It's all about me and it has to be now". It was like Uranus in Aries had just said those words. I gave up that relationship because I deserve to be happy and not be stressed and walking on eggshells being something fake.

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posted January 26, 2011 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump
I am meditating on this thread. Just wanted you to know that it is important to me and I have not forgotten it

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You must face,touch and feel the dregs of Nessus before you can grasp the pristine beauty of Neptune.
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posted January 26, 2011 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Angler
I don't know how to do transits,yet lol
You have a relationship with your father like I have one with my mother.
They are a leech.They attached on us and our life purpose is how to pull them off

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posted January 26, 2011 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How is your Sun aspected? That is the father.The moon is the mother,as I am sure you ,prolly,know.
My Sun has all good aspects.My moon has one bad one .It is unaspected other than that.
It has a semi-sextile to Venus ,though.
This is my aspirational aspect like an aspirational diamond
When I can put Venus and the moon,together,I am gonna be in good shape

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posted January 26, 2011 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My desire is to write to you about Venus cuz I AM accessing her.
Venus is a magnificent part of us,not to be missed or pushed away as you had to do.
My goal is to share my Venus with you in the hopes that I can encourage you to find yours.
I think you will.
We did not come together by accident.
Your Chiron conjuncts my moon. That is no accident, Friend

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Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man.
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posted January 26, 2011 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


That is a good question,Lioness.*I* would ask Lonake.
She seems to be one of the most experienced Astrologers,here.
x x x x

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posted January 27, 2011 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How is your Sun aspected? That is the father.The moon is the mother,as I am sure you ,prolly,know.
My Sun has all good aspects.My moon has one bad one

Strangely I have
Sun trine Jupiter exact
Sun sq ASC out of sign, 3 deg
Sun semi sq Mars exact.

The Sun tr Jupiter boogles me. Since Jupiter co-rules Pisces and is exalted in Cancer. It's meant to be really good, but all it does is make me lazy.

However my dad's Neptune completes the grand trine in water...

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posted January 27, 2011 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 27, 2011 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ami. Do you have anything near my Ceres at 22 Gemini. Just wondering?

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posted January 27, 2011 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a talk with my mum. She's going to to talk to her psychologist to see if they can find somebody to help me irl.

I have to name it...

I AM not a victim.
I AM not a martyr.

I AM confident.
I AM smart.
I AM beautitful.
I CAN break free from the BS my father put in my head.
I AM happy with who I am.
I don't have to be perfect...

I need to do all this so I can move on.

I need a base to deal with the spiritual abuse inflicted on me by my father and his 12th house Neptune, when the energy of Pluto starts getting passed from my Uranus to my Neptune and when tNeptune is exact on my Sun for 8 months.

I learnt how to do transits to explain my past and to help me navigate tPluto and my stellium in Cappy.

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posted January 27, 2011 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dp my internet is misbehaving again... ugh.

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posted January 27, 2011 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry... I thought I was posting on another thread... I had it up in my window and then closed it and... ta da... wrong thread!

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posted January 27, 2011 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Anglerfish,

I have them too, copy&pasted

Venus in Capricorn

You keep your feelings under control, and at times you may find it difficult to make friends. This is because you express your feelings more seriously than most people your age. However, make sure that your relationships are not based solely on what others can do for you.

Venus Square Saturn

This aspect is often difficult to handle in that the demands of the world always seem to get in the way of having fun and receiving love and affection from others. You often feel that persons or circumstances are forcing you to do things that you do not want to do.

Sometimes this aspect means that you feel lonely, usually because you believe you are not worthy of love. That is not true, but once this idea is fixed in your mind, it is difficult for anyone to talk you out of it.

Venus Square Saturn

The square from Venus to Saturn indicates that you have difficulty relating to others. You are basically unwilling to accept the responsibility that is established when two individuals meet in a more than casual way. If you accept others for themselves, realizing that everyone has to make concessions and adjustments to others, then happiness can surely be yours.

Perhaps your most significant lessons will be learned in relationships with others.

Before you really succeed in any occupational capacity, you will have to solve your problem in relating to people.

*Venus in the Fourth House *Just me*

Venus was found in the fourth house at the time of your birth. This is usually a very favorable and fruitful position that grants excellent family relationships within peaceful and beautiful environments.

This position indicates many social affairs, feasts, parties, celebrations, and related activities.

Near the end of your life you should experience financial gain and an overall economic improvement.

A natural lover of country life and nature, you will find many opportunities to gratify these sentiments.


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posted January 27, 2011 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please be careful with therapy.I know many people are gonna disagree but I have ,always,been made worse by therapy.
You can get a whack job like my mother who is a practicing shrink lol
Even if you don't,therapy can propel you more in to your head when you NEED to be more in to your heart.


Disclaimer
This is one mans opinion. Opinions are like noses. We all have them and they usually have a few holes in them.
I DO NOT WISH TO ARGUE ABOUT MINE.

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posted January 27, 2011 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Angler
You are gonna laugh
My mercury is 21 Gem

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posted January 27, 2011 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:


That is a good question,Lioness.*I* would ask Lonake.
She seems to be one of the most experienced Astrologers,here.
x x x x



Look this is weird.. Who posted this? Ami was that you?
It says I posted it... lol

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posted January 27, 2011 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I screwed up the quotes thing,Lioness lol

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posted January 28, 2011 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mblake81:
Venus in Capricorn

You keep your feelings under control, and at times you may find it difficult to make friends. This is because you express your feelings more seriously than most people your age. However, make sure that your relationships are not based solely on what others can do for you.


Although I have Venus cj Saturn, I still think the square would be bad.

The only good thing about Venus/Saturn is that I avoided getting really bad acne and will age well.

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posted January 28, 2011 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my ASC on my dad's NN. It annoys me that our relationship may be fated.

Was it my job to pay off some past life karma?

It is my job to break away. It is my job to turn my pain into something good.

He learnt nothing and he is the NN person. Why???

Now I know my Deja exists I can name it. I can name the problem and the pain, and by naming it, it starts to lose power over me.

I refuse to hide in corners anymore. (unless I want to because they're good for watching ppl).

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posted January 28, 2011 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the centaur Bienor (27 cap) cj my Deja too.

From Phillip Sedwick

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Bienor - This centaur offers a sense of creative spirit, belief in urge of the soul, confidence. His name means literally, “strong man.” Orbital Period: 66.81 yr.

Positive - creative, inspired, talented, motivated, burning with creative vigor

Negative - repressed, sullen, withdrawn, resentful that life does not respond and bestow rewards

Mundane - benefactors, creative sanctuaries, places of recognition (Halls of Fame, etc.), awards, grants and prizes for projects seeking funding support

Ceremonial - mediation upon the heart, Hatha yoga, meditation in general, creating while listening to or dancing with music, dance ceremonies


I want the positive of this. I will have it. I don't want to be the negative traits anymore. I have to pull this out of the claws of Deja too.

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posted January 28, 2011 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Angler
We are on the same journey to extract ourselves from the claws of lies and deception/distortions.
You know, the funny thing is that the deception is just thoughts.
Once you say that,you have some measure of freedom.
However, the thoughts are rooted so deeply.They are like an oak tree with the root system extending for miles.
That is the bad news.The good news is that roots CAN be taken out,taken up, extinguished, burned.
Then, the tree falls over.Just like that

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Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man.
You must face,touch and feel the dregs of Nessus before you can grasp the pristine beauty of Neptune.
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posted January 29, 2011 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find I odd that my Deja is sextile Algol...

You said

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Deja is the person who lies down to be raped.
Of course, this does not have to be literal nor is it,usually.

However, Deja is the energy of the rape victim.


Algol is also associated with Medusa, who was raped be Poseidon and then cursed by Athena.

I have Poseidon cj Mars
I have Pallas (Ari) Square Mars
I have Medusa at 23 Sag cj my moon

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posted February 01, 2011 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Angler
Come back.
I am sorry if I have not been back to this thread.
I am doing psychic readings and have fallen behind in those so please forgive me.
I really want to talk with you about these things.

I would love it if you just wrote on here the way Fatinkerbel and I do,if you care to.
That way we can talk to each other ,often

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You have to be strong enough to be gentle.Peace through strength,ALWAYS
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