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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 21042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 30, 2011 08:20 AM Yes Angler TOTALLY If you (or anyone) is stuck in a stance, that is the best you can do ,at the moment. One's defenses are built up to protect against the pain of DEATH from a broken heart. People throw guilt on others when they are not "better". I realize that people are where they are as truly the best they can do,at the moment. Any change comes very,very slowly.If it is too fast,it is not,usually,real ------------------ If you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will forgive you But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
saronna Knowflake Posts: 369 From: Australia Registered: Jan 2010	posted April 30, 2011 10:11 PM Angelfish you have power. The power you have is God...Our Father which art in heaven hollowed be thine name give us this day our daily bread and forgive those who trespress against us for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory in Master Jesus Christ name Amen IP: Logged
saronna Knowflake Posts: 369 From: Australia Registered: Jan 2010	posted April 30, 2011 10:13 PM And forgive us for our trespassers in Master Jesus Christ's name,glory and power. Pray this every morning and night with meditation if possible and one will see the difference between what it was like and what it is like now. IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted May 01, 2011 01:21 AM I'm not a Christian and will never be, but I appreciate you trying to help. Christianity gives me PTSD, it's my chironic wound. * has flashback and shakes a lot* It stole my childhood and bits of my self esteem and I can't ever get the childhood bit back. cries I want MY OWN strength. ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted May 01, 2011 01:26 AM I have my religious beliefs and am happy with them but I'm not very comfortable in discussing them at all. * has more PTSD moments * ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted May 01, 2011 01:27 AM My father is a crazy fundie and his father is one of those people who thinks the devil is around every corner trying to tempt him and screw him over/ satanic panic like stuff. He tried to excorcise me when I was 13. I was spiritually abused. PERIOD. ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted May 01, 2011 01:39 AM Ami, can you see how my 12H Pluto ties into this??? ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 21042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 01, 2011 02:57 AM Hmmm How does your 12th house Pluto tie in to your being spiritually abused? Well, are you saying that the house in which Pluto is placed is the house of your deepest trauma so YOURS would be the house of the Spirit-the 12th? I did not know you went through that ,Angler.I am really, really sorry. That has to be one of the worst things ever--to be abused in the name of God. That would be worse than what happened to me,although one can never "compare" abuse and I hope you will forgive me for that My family was agnostic so did not mess with God,either way lol ------------------ If you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will forgive you But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted May 01, 2011 07:33 AM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Hmmm How does your 12th house Pluto tie in to your being spiritually abused? Well, are you saying that the house in which Pluto is placed is the house of your deepest trauma so YOURS would be the house of the Spirit-the 12th? I did not know you went through that ,Angler.I am really, really sorry. Exactly what I was meaning. ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 21042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 01, 2011 09:00 AM I was wrong about the unaspected Pluto.I wrote about it in Astro 2.I am sorry Angler I was looking at the wrong thing ------------------ If you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will forgive you But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted May 01, 2011 09:41 AM That's ok I understand, I'm a Pisces, being slightly muddled is normal for me. IP: Logged
saronna Knowflake Posts: 369 From: Australia Registered: Jan 2010	posted May 01, 2011 08:35 PM What's a Christian Angelfish? I am curious to know as I don't know what makes one a christian. Is it a prayer that makes one a Christian. Is it Jesus Christ as God that makes one a Christian or is Jesus a man and became a master and made him Jesus the Master. Please share your thoughts on what makes a christian etc. I don't know how you would get your own power; is there room for a Higher power like nature, fairies, elves astrology etc. IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted May 02, 2011 04:14 AM I don't want to talk about it. Please just stop. What part of I don't want to discuss it don't you get. I don't discuss my religion to people who aren't it cos nobody will get it. Enough, this thread is about my venus/Saturn not my problems with certain religions. Ok... ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted May 02, 2011 04:18 AM quote: Originally posted by Anglerfish: I want to try get some hypnotherapy if I can but I heard that it doesn't work well with Capricorn so I'm not so sure if I will do anything but I need to get past some thing but I cant when I'm conscious. I thought the tNeptune cj sun might help but it's just a hunch. Should I try it Ami??? ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted May 02, 2011 05:55 AM The tJupiter/tMars conjunction is square my venus/Saturn/deja and it just cuts. I hate this Aries stellium. ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 21042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2011 08:31 AM Well Angler I think the most important thing for you,now, is to have hope. You seem to have come out of a great degree of hopelessness. I can feel it,if I am right. I think that you need to go inside you and try to feel any direction in which you need to go. Your inner compass has been lost.You have HAD to give it up in order to survive your father. Little by little,you will need to connect with it ,trust it. When you do,you will be well. It is a slow process but coming out of the degree of hopelessness which you had is a huge,huge,huge step. Am I feeling you right,Angler ------------------ If you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will forgive you But if ye forgive not men their trespasses,neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted May 02, 2011 09:15 AM I need change but I just have no hope that it will come. I don't know if I have an internal compass. ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 21042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2011 09:21 AM Well Angler Your "vibe",to me,seems stronger and more hopeful. That is what I meant.You seem to have come out of a place of great ,great hopelessness to a place of some,very small hope,only. However,even the kernel of hope is huge.You don't know HOW much. ------------------ Throw away your books and listen to your heart.Listen the closest when it hurts the most. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted May 02, 2011 09:55 AM Every day I wait for a call to be given an interview, it never comes. I watch as old and ex friends of mine get on with their lives and are happy while I'm just stuck. I feel like everything is passing me by. ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 21042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2011 10:03 AM Well,Angler You do not want to die as you did a short time ,ago. I don't feel that from you the way I used to,anyway THAT IS SO BIG.That is the first step to being a an absolute winner! The rest will come on that foundation.I think you are out of danger, for now. Staying that way should be your MAIN goal. On that,build the rest PS I am trying to become a winner,too.It is HARD when you were told not to breathe,not to live. A winner is all of who they are. It is the us that was under all those lies. It takes a small shovel to dig out cuz it is slow and tedious but you uncover the you who was made by the Creator just as it was supposed to be. ------------------ Throw away your books and listen to your heart.Listen the closest when it hurts the most. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Anglerfish Knowflake Posts: 410 From: Registered: Jan 2011	posted May 02, 2011 10:17 AM All I want is to get better. I want to be able to let go of grudges. I want to love myself and be confident. I want to let all the bad stuff go and move on in my life. ------------------ Transit Saturn giveth and Transit Saturn taketh away... IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 21042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2011 10:49 AM T-I-M-E Darling The climb will not be fast .It will be a marathon,not a sprint ------------------ Throw away your books and listen to your heart.Listen the closest when it hurts the most. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 21042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2011 11:57 AM I had something to share with you Angler I was thinking about my house and how it is ,always,in some state of mess. It screams at me" Failure" I was thinking about where I could begin to get it organized and if I ever could to enough of a degree that it would stop screaming. Then,I thought of you.I feel like your life is screaming"Failure" at you. I think we will always be failures in the sense that there is NO way to make that voice go away by cleaning up the outside to a sufficient degree. There will always be the sock hanging out of the drawer. We can never do enough to make that voice stop screaming. ------------------ Throw away your books and listen to your heart.Listen the closest when it hurts the most. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 21042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2011 12:32 PM Life is not what we were told ,Angler.We are not pieces of garbage as we were told. You just have to stick around long enough to see it ------------------ Throw away your books and listen to your heart.Listen the closest when it hurts the most. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 21042 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 04, 2011 08:50 AM How are you doing Angler? ------------------ Throw away your books and listen to your heart.Listen the closest when it hurts the most. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged

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