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Anglerfish
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posted April 08, 2011 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had dinner with my father, I didn't die... *breathes sigh of relief*

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posted April 08, 2011 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People tell me that I'm too hard on myself, that's a cap thing.

They also tell me I need to like myself and then I wont attract *******s.

I don't even know how to like myself....

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posted April 08, 2011 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cant wait until Saturn goes direct.. then I might feel like things will start moving...

I wish it was June... plus there is tJupiter in Taurus...

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Ami Anne
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posted April 08, 2011 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Anglerfish:
People tell me that I'm too hard on myself, that's a cap thing.

They also tell me I need to like myself and then I wont attract *******s.

I don't even know how to like myself....


I get that ,Angler.
We didn't learn .
For me,bottom line is that God does not make junk.NO ONE IS JUNK

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Anglerfish
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posted April 10, 2011 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People tell me I need to let go of things I can't change. I can't...

People tell me I need to stop being so so hard on myself. I can't.

People tell me that I need to love myself, I don't know how.

There so much stuff I want to get rid of but I can't. I am getting really impatient with this Saturn rx in my 12th. It's like put my whole life on hold.

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Ami Anne
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posted April 10, 2011 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Anglerfish:
People tell me I need to let go of things I can't change. I can't...

People tell me I need to stop being so so hard on myself. I can't.

People tell me that I need to love myself, I don't know how.

There so much stuff I want to get rid of but I can't. I am getting really impatient with this Saturn rx in my 12th. It's like put my whole life on hold.


You CAN"T do any of that stuff,right now. That stuff is locked in you as protective mechanisms, survival mechanisms.
It is not that you are an "ungrateful jerk"
You got this way to survive pain.
It cannot go by force of will

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Anglerfish
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posted April 21, 2011 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
INDRIEL
YOU ARE A LIGHTWORKER GOD NEEDS YOU TO SHINE YOUR DIVINE LIGHT AND LOVE- LIKE AN ANGEL-UPON THE EARTH AND ALL OF ITS INHABITANTS.

This is the angel card Lioness pulled for me in her thread in Astro 2.

I just don't really get it at all.

Every time I help people I get used and screwed over, must be the ****ing Pisces.

**** the system. I always score well in those are you an indigo child things...
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Ami Anne
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posted April 21, 2011 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Angler
I think that card is right. You can be am angel to others.
You have suffered ,deeply.
You will be able to empathize with others.
The FIRST thing,though,and *I* am learning this is to love oneself.
This is the hardest thing of all when you have been abused.
However,it is a MUST

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posted April 23, 2011 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are beautiful.
You are smart.
You are confident.
You can do things on your own.
You don't need a man to make you happy
you don't have to take not everybody liking you as a personal attack.

YOU ARE WORTHY OF FRIENDSHIP!!!!!!!

YOU ARE WORTHY OF LOVE!!!!!!!!!

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Yrone
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posted April 24, 2011 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus (Cap) opposite Saturn, with Saturn sitting in my 4th house. ****** teen years that pretty much sapped all the drive to realize my dreams out of me on top of being made feeling worthless and fug.

I've tried those affirmations but meh, never really worked for me because the negativity was so ingrained from 9 years of battering against my ego that deep down inside, I just couldn't believe what I was trying to tell me.

Alas, I got a lucky break. One day I decided I need to do something, things need to change. That's when I stumbled upon a flyer of a self defense class. 1 year later, I look into the mirror and see a person I do not fully know (yet). A beautiful person who is smiling a lot and generally more open and outgoing to people.

Meh, still a long road ahead to where I want to end up, but I've also learned to be more patient with myself and not expect results over night.

Anyways, for me doing something I had always wanted to do but being talked out/denied because it's not something girls do and sticking with it week after week has been a huge help.

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posted April 24, 2011 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starfox
That is so sweet

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posted April 24, 2011 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yrone:
I have Venus (Cap) opposite Saturn, with Saturn sitting in my 4th house. ****** teen years that pretty much sapped all the drive to realize my dreams out of me on top of being made feeling worthless and fug.

I've tried those affirmations but meh, never really worked for me because the negativity was so ingrained from 9 years of battering against my ego that deep down inside, I just couldn't believe what I was trying to tell me.

Alas, I got a lucky break. One day I decided I need to do something, things need to change. That's when I stumbled upon a flyer of a self defense class where I met teacher. 1 year later, I look into the mirror and see a person I do not fully know (yet). A beautiful person who is smiling a lot and generally more open and outgoing to people.

Meh, still a long road ahead to where I want to end up, but I've also learned to be more patient with myself and not expect results over night.

Anyways, for me doing something I had always wanted to do but being talked out/denied because it's not something girls do and sticking with it week after week has been a huge help.


Awesome Yrone

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posted April 26, 2011 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yrone:
I have Venus (Cap) opposite Saturn, with Saturn sitting in my 4th house. ****** teen years that pretty much sapped all the drive to realize my dreams out of me on top of being made feeling worthless and fug.

I've tried those affirmations but meh, never really worked for me because the negativity was so ingrained from 9 years of battering against my ego that deep down inside, I just couldn't believe what I was trying to tell me.

Alas, I got a lucky break. One day I decided I need to do something, things need to change. That's when I stumbled upon a flyer of a self defense class where I met teacher. 1 year later, I look into the mirror and see a person I do not fully know (yet). A beautiful person who is smiling a lot and generally more open and outgoing to people.

Meh, still a long road ahead to where I want to end up, but I've also learned to be more patient with myself and not expect results over night.

Anyways, for me doing something I had always wanted to do but being talked out/denied because it's not something girls do and sticking with it week after week has been a huge help.


Yeh It's too hard. I realistically don't think change will happen. My mum made me go to a psychologist.. they all say the same thing. It doesn't work. I'm sick of being patient. I just can't do it anymore. I need to change now or change at my saturn return, SO I HAVE TO DO IT ALL NOW!!!!!!!!!!! or face tSaturn/tPluto cj Venus/Saturn...aka probably the worst transit I'm ever going to have in my whole life. I don't want to deal with all this in 7 years, I have better things to do with my sat return.

I feel like this saturn rx with the traffic jam in Aries is just like a nightmare quagmire that wont ever end...

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posted April 26, 2011 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing I learned,Angler,is that you cannot force change.
By this I mean that you cannot throw shame and guilt on yourself IF you are stuck.
You are stuck for some reason ,known or unknown(usually subconscious)
Our minds build defenses for survival .
These defenses come down ,slowly.
Our depression,hopelessness, pain etc is what we have HAD to build so we can live.
They are our "friends" in a strange sense,if you know what I mean.
I guess my point is not to force change or think you are "bad" cuz you can't change fast enough

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posted April 26, 2011 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Ami said. It took me about a year to get where I am, and there's still ways to go. And no, it wasn't easy by any means.

The first time I went to the trainings hall after the self defense class and summer break I almost puked because I was so afraid that they really wouldn't want me there. Even now, occassionally I get a little knot in the stomach.

There's no magic formula or switch. I know the mountain of a task can seem overwhelming, but I stopped thinking of the whole and just concentrated on the next step. And started to be disciplined about small things I had wanted to change for a looong time already. Every so often when I think the previous one has become fairly abitual part of life, I'll add another ... and so on. Maybe in another year or two I'll be a semi decent housekeeper

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posted April 26, 2011 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What Ami said. It took me about a year to get where I am, and there's still ways to go. And no, it wasn't easy by any means.

The first time I went to the trainings hall after the self defense class and summer break I almost puked because I was so afraid that they really wouldn't want me there. Even now, occassionally I get a little knot in the stomach.

There's no magic formula or switch. I know the mountain of a task can seem overwhelming, but I stopped thinking of the whole and just concentrated on the next step. And started to be disciplined about small things I had wanted to change for a looong time already. Every so often when I think the previous one has become fairly abitual part of life, I'll add another ... and so on. Maybe in another year or two I'll be a semi decent housekeeper


You inspired me a LOT,Yrone.

I did my own version of martial arts.I got a program on Dissassocation.
It told me I must force myself to be real.
I forced myself and it WAS a forcing.
A year later,I feel much more real.
The irony,as most things do have,is that I am OK.
I was not "bad" as I was "taught" .

Now,I am on to the next step.I am afraid ,again.
I am doing a website. I am going to be going out in the world in a way I have not for many years.
I was a stay at home mother so could escape in to the house,you could say lol
I am resisting this move but forcing myself ,slowly to do the steps .
Your story inspired me a lot.Please ,keep writing.I look forward to hearing all your steps--the triumphs and the troubles

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posted April 28, 2011 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much Ami All the best for your project!

I soon too will have to start getting seriously involved in looking for a job.

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posted April 28, 2011 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Yrone
Your story really inspired. I am working on my website ,slowly cuz much of the work is getting the actual courage to put it out there.
It is the birth of my self esteem as was your martial arts.
I hope we can hold hands as we go forward.

You know ,I have amazing angels in life. I was just thinking about HOW amazing as I was writing this to you

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posted April 28, 2011 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have become good friends with a professional woman whose passion is web sites in my field.
She MADE one for one of her friends,in fact.
She is so generous with her time and her care.
She helps me every step of the way in the text,layout etc
How could this be if it was not a Divine gift?
Do you notice Divine gifts Yrone?
Have you seen them in your climb up?
Please share ,if you care to

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posted April 28, 2011 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Angler

How are you doing,Darling?
I did not want to put my own mini thread on yours by telling my story ,here.
This is YOUR thread.
If it gets too much about me,I will start a new one.
This is YOUR place to write and share,always !

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posted April 28, 2011 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel bleh... I put up my details in astro 2 for the late bloomers thread if you want to go look.

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posted April 29, 2011 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to try get some hypnotherapy if I can but I heard that it doesn't work well with Capricorn so I'm not so sure if I will do anything but I need to get past some thing but I cant when I'm conscious. I thought the tNeptune cj sun might help but it's just a hunch.

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posted April 29, 2011 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saronna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Angelfish, Self worth is more than the positions of plants as free will is a stronger force than planets but you make a good point about the planets and how they can affect like the moon effects the tide. You are on the right track with affirmations and sharing where you are right now etc. Please keep sharing and let us know how you are going

Lots of love and hugs

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posted April 30, 2011 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. I understand there is free will, but as Ami says sometimes you just cant will things no matter how much you want to. I just feel like I have no power.

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posted April 30, 2011 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Angler TOTALLY
If you (or anyone) is stuck in a stance, that is the best you can do ,at the moment.
One's defenses are built up to protect against the pain of DEATH from a broken heart.
People throw guilt on others when they are not "better".
I realize that people are where they are as truly the best they can do,at the moment.
Any change comes very,very slowly.If it is too fast,it is not,usually,real

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