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Anglerfish
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posted March 18, 2011 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like I can't do anything right.

I just want something to go right for me.

I'm such a failure at everything.

Everybody seems to have a job and a bf and I'm all unemployed and lonely.

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
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posted March 18, 2011 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel as if I am not good enough.

I know external stuff is not suppose to make you happy. But it'd just help to know that stuff could go right...

I feel so lonely everyday, I'm also just so annoyed. I feel like I wasted the last 3 years of my life

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
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Ami Anne
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posted March 18, 2011 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Angler
ANY words I can say are just words. I feel you are in a desperate state .
I can hear that behind your words here and on FB.
I hesitate to say trite words cuz people do that and trite words mean nothing.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 18, 2011 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I have is words so I will say some.
*I* did it all and had it all.
I have a great education,had many great jobs,got married,kids,nice house, financial resources on and on and on.
Inside was PAIN that NEVER went away,ever.
No outside thing took it away.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 18, 2011 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NOW, I am getting peace.
It is from a variety of things.
The outside things are nice to have but do little to nothing to getting rid of the inner pain.
That has to be addressed as it's OWN issue

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Anglerfish
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posted March 19, 2011 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this is a Saturn transit thing...
Saturn gave me a hard time when it was in Cancer. I always does when it makes squares/oppositions to my stellium.

I love my Cappy mars. If I didn't have that I'd have given up long ago.

I'd had the rx pass of Saturn sq Mars go exact yesterday. It's not fun...

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
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Ami Anne
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posted March 19, 2011 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn conjunct the ASC so Saturn is an everpresent part of me.
I have more respect and understanding of Saturn,now.
I used to fear him and see him as useless lol
He does give you rich rewards if you persevere.
The rewards are priceless but it seems he gives them to you,RIGHT when you want to give up.
If you go that next extra step,you will find it .

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Ami Anne
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posted March 20, 2011 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
((((Angler))))

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posted March 20, 2011 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn is not that bad...really
He just wants to see you stand on your own two feet and take responsibility for your life.
Saturn is maturity, he is hard work, and he does not tolerate laziness or excuses.

He really does want to see you succeed, so he will be all over you untill you do.

Saturn is also Karma, both paying and recieving
but he really does love you,
so much so that he is not going to quit,
untill you get it right.
We can call it tough love.

Try, try, try, and then try a little bit more
and when it's over you will reap the rewards of a job well done.
You will also like and respect the person you have become.

Now Pluto is another story

Sending you a mommy hug Anglerfish

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posted March 21, 2011 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lalalinda:
Saturn is not that bad...really
He just wants to see you stand on your own two feet and take responsibility for your life.
Saturn is maturity, he is hard work, and he does not tolerate laziness or excuses.

He really does want to see you succeed, so he will be all over you until you do.

Saturn is also Karma, both paying and receiving
but he really does love you,
so much so that he is not going to quit,
until you get it right.
We can call it tough love.

Try, try, try, and then try a little bit more
and when it's over you will reap the rewards of a job well done.
You will also like and respect the person you have become.

Now Pluto is another story

Sending you a mommy hug Anglerfish



Thank you lalalinda...

I like Pluto, but Saturn makes me get depressed cos I'm going nowhere or so it seems..

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
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Ami Anne
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posted March 21, 2011 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lala

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Anglerfish
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posted March 21, 2011 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to know what's going to happen when tSaturn squares my Venus/Deja. Deja is giving me a lot of **** atm and I'm not coping well.

I hate Deja... evething hurts.

I'm so insecure. I don't want to be like this, I don't want to be insecure. There are certain people (not related to me) that if i see them I just pushes my big red ACTIVATE DEJA HERE and I feel so horrible and that they're out there to ruin my life and to stop me having fun.

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
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posted March 21, 2011 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't want for Saturn to gth out of Libra...but that's like october 2012... I have to deal with 2 saturn squares. One exact, and one when it goes rx at 22 libra, which is an exact square to my saturn/venus midpoint. which is also a square to the piont 22Cap where Saturn and Pluto will meet in 2020 with my saturn return...

I just need to survive this stupid Saturn sq Mars **** because it is just **** and I am so sick of the **** and would like to move on in a nice way... All the websites are right on that one, it's a horrible transit.

Ami do you have mars in a cardinal sign and are you getting this??? I think you mentioned it was Cancer but I haven't seen ur chart/placements so I don't know.

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
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Ami Anne
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posted March 21, 2011 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Angler
What were you thinking about my Mars? *I* am not gonna aggress you am I

My Mars is 16 Cancer

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posted March 21, 2011 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Dear Angler
What were you thinking about my Mars? *I* am not gonna aggress you am I

My Mars is 16 Cancer


No not at all...

My mars is at 15 Cap....So both our Marses are getting a nasty square from Saturn...

Every time Saturn goes in a Cardinal sign I get depressed. I better have the best Saturn return in the world cos I ******* deserve it since I was all depressed when Saturn was in Cancer as well...can't remember aries though.

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
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posted March 22, 2011 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know,Angler, I wanted to ask someone this. I am not good with transits,progressions etc.
I am pretty new to Astrology ,just a year..


This is my question,Neptunes illusions seem to be dropping.
Could Saturn be doing this?

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posted March 22, 2011 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You know,Angler, I wanted to ask someone this. I am not good with transits,progressions etc.
I am pretty new to Astrology ,just a year..


This is my question,Neptunes illusions seem to be dropping.
Could Saturn be doing this?


Yes or progressions. I an not that great with progressions either... I am trying to figure out how my prog mars at 0 Aqua is working... But I do know that prog merc in Pisces is annoying. Oh for the day my prog sun/merc move into Aries....

As for Saturn. He's all about reality. If you have Neptune in Scorpio you are due for a conjunction in a few years. What that will do I don't know. I'm having tSaturn square Neptune too as I have Neptune cj Mars natally.
You may have tSaturn trine Sun as a Gem.

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
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posted March 23, 2011 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Angler
Just saying Hello
Check out my thread on Progressions in Astro 2
Please give any input you can

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posted March 24, 2011 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

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posted March 26, 2011 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes I feel like it's going to take another 18 years to undo the 18 years of damage caused... such a long time....................

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
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posted March 26, 2011 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear you on that one,Baby

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posted March 27, 2011 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tNeptune cj Sun... I can not see myself as I truly am. The fog blinds me....

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
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Ami Anne
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posted March 27, 2011 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you please describe what Neptune conjunct Sun feels like,Angler?

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posted March 27, 2011 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll have to take some time to get my head around it, the energy may change when it goes exact by degree on the 5th, might get better or worse... Who knows. I need foglights for my sun...

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
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posted March 27, 2011 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anglerfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok heres what I've got at the moment.

Transit Saturn sq Neptune/Mars
Transit Chiron cj Sun
Transit Chiron tr Jupiter
Transit Uranus sq Jupiter
Transit Neptune cj Sun
Transit Neptune tr Jupiter
Transit Pluto cj Uranus (1 deg from exact when it goes retro)
Transit Jupiter sq Neptune/Mars.

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche. ASC 29 Scorpio...
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