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Topic: Jealousy!!
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 14, 2013 12:23 PM
Or is it that, while you get along better with women, you don't form friendships with them due to your marriage?------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7029 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted August 14, 2013 12:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: But YTA - You've said multiple times that most of your friends are women, haven't you?
And that is right. Most of my friends. I don't have many friends, and almost no male friends. In a way, I am very anti-social, and interactions with males ultimately become a showdown. Not all males are alpha types, and putting two alphas together usually creates friction. And I don't like beta males: just a personal choice. Most of my female friends are my ex-girlfriends, if it makes a difference. There are still feelings of affection floating around, but we are either all married, married and divorced, or have chosen not to be married. Therefore, there isn't an impetus to jump into bed... having already done so. That removes the sexual urges, and my women friends are also either (1) my physician, (2) my kids' physician, (3) my lawyer, or (4) my kids' godmother. And my wife knows them well, and is friends with one of them. And as you can see, I don't get along very well with any males. I understand aquaguy but he's young enough to be my son. The rest of the men, I butt heads, and some vigorously. If I didn't have my female friends, I would much rather have no friends. I don't look for new friendships with women, if that is what you are inquiring. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 8685 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 14, 2013 12:36 PM
Sometimes I'm jealous, other times I'm not. When I do feel jealousy rearing it's ugly head, I make it pass as quickly as possible and never act out of jealousy. Most of the time I'm okay though.Sun in Aries, Venus in Aries. (but Moon opp. Pluto. I attract jealous women generally.) IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 8685 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 14, 2013 12:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: Nope it so long as things are open and clear IDGAF I got my own life to live.Sun Cancer Venus Gemini
That's how I feel too. It's not so much I'm jealous but I don't like feeling "duped." If they are upfront and honest, I'm more likely to not care. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 14, 2013 12:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: And that is right. Most of my friends. I don't have many friends, and almost no male friends. In a way, I am very anti-social, and interactions with males ultimately become a showdown. Not all males are alpha types, and putting two alphas together usually creates friction. And I don't like beta males: just a personal choice. Most of my female friends are my ex-girlfriends, if it makes a difference. There are still feelings of affection floating around, but we are either all married, married and divorced, or have chosen not to be married. Therefore, there isn't an impetus to jump into bed... having already done so. That removes the sexual urges, and my women friends are also either (1) my physician, (2) my kids' physician, (3) my lawyer, or (4) my kids' godmother. And my wife knows them well, and is friends with one of them. And as you can see, I don't get along very well with any males. I understand aquaguy but he's young enough to be my son. The rest of the men, I butt heads, and some vigorously. If I didn't have my female friends, I would much rather have no friends. I don't look for new friendships with women, if that is what you are inquiring.
I asked because you seemed to agree with ag's assertion that he didn't want any female friends but his wife and that she shouldn't have any male friends besides him. That was confusing. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7029 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted August 14, 2013 02:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: I asked because you seemed to agree with ag's assertion that he didn't want any female friends but his wife and that she shouldn't have any male friends besides him.That was confusing.
This was what I agreed with.
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Wrong, I do want to be best friends with a girl and that will be the girl I want to marry. I am an aqua venus afterall. The way I see it other guys should leave me and my friend alone and find their own.
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 14, 2013 02:20 PM
It was your agreement with the last sentence that was confusing, though I heartily agree with marrying your best friend.Moot point, though. Not that important. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 4748 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted August 14, 2013 02:27 PM
I don't get why it even matters anymore really. I'm gonna still and forever will befriend males. I get along with them alot better and they seem to understand me alot more than women do. We should all be allowed to friend anyone that we desire to be friends with. If you can't handle a female or a male having opposite sex friends than I think it should be brought up right away before things get more serious. I don't see the big deal in it but hey I'm I'm only one little person in this big big world of ours. Regardless of the fact we should all be friends we're humans and all one in the same IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 11090 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2013 02:44 PM
To the OP. No. Taurus, Venus In Gem.I would never want to take away my partners female friends, especially ones made long before me. That is selfish. Obviously they don't like each other in that way or they'd be together. As someone who has most often had more male friends than female, i 'get it' and I could not be with a guy who insisted that I drop my longtime male friendships in order to be with him. I'd at that point, know that he was not someone for me and had obviously not had - or was incapable of, having his own female friendships, without thinking of getting into bed with them. That would be a huge red flag for me and tell me what type of person he was. Some of my guy friends I look at like brothers and they look at me like a sister, it's familial and there is no sexual chemistry there. If a guy can't understand - or has never experience that, I don't think I could be with him. And would leave feeling somewhat sorry for him that he was never able to have that kind of platonic bond/love with the opposite sex. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 11090 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2013 02:50 PM
When I think back on life and remember people that i formed close bonds with - male or female, and who i've gone through good times and bad and always imagined being able to keep in touch with no matter what.....i'm afraid that someone who could not understand or respect that, would not be someone I could date. People who have been there for you and are important people in your life - or were at some point - you should never be forced to give up or never talk to again. It's like saying you can't talk to your brother because he's male. Does not make sense to me.I guess if you only think of the opposite sex in terms of potential sex partners, then it makes sense. And I'm sorry to hear that. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10022 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted August 14, 2013 03:09 PM
9 times out of 10 the guy has feelings for a girl if he hangs around her a lot. I know the women will say " bu bu bu bu bu bu bu but he has never told me!" Let me be the first to tell you that this doesnt mean anything. A lot of guys don't reveal their feelings because women usually shut down any oppurtunity they have of doing that. Women love to proclaim in front of these guys" We are besties, you are like a brother to me! I don't know why people think we are dating, I could never date you". This obviously puts the guy in an uncomfortable spot and would make it really awkward and difficult for him to admit that he likes her in a romantic way. When you witness these things you'll almost always see the guy give a nervous smile and agree. A lot of guys are afraid to speak up because they worry that it will ruin their relationship with the girl and they will lose her completely, so they suffer in silence and secretly pine for the girl. As for me? I dont like beating around the bush and will speak my mind even if it could ruin the friendship. If a girl is going to get mad at me for being honest and walk away from me then I didn't need her in my life in the first place.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10022 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted August 14, 2013 03:29 PM
Here is a video that is relevant to the discussion. Its called adam and eve in the friendzone and was done by college humor.com. While this video is meant for comedic purposes it has lots of truth and I would be willing to bet that every man in the world has been through this at some point in his life. Notice how adam seems very annoyed by how eve wants to keep it platonic but smiles anyways? You are seeing first hand how most guys feel in that situation. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZsleyKons IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 8685 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 14, 2013 04:00 PM
I don't know what it is but I will vouch that Aquarius' bring out my argumentative side more than anybody on the planet. Libras tie or come in a close second.AG, that is your truth. Yours. We know how you feel and have for a very long time, and no matter how adamant either side is there seems to be no progress made. What is the point of arguing this anymore? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57840 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 14, 2013 04:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I don't know what it is but I will vouch that Aquarius' bring out my argumentative side more than anybody on the planet. Libras tie or come in a close second.AG, that is your truth. Yours. We know how you feel and have for a very long time, and no matter how adamant either side is there seems to be no progress made. What is the point of arguing this anymore?
He can give his opinion, just like you can. Thanks.
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T Knowflake Posts: 11090 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2013 05:21 PM
ag,From what you wrote there....i've a feeling I understand guys a lot better than you do. I've made plenty of male friends who are capable of having a healthy platonic relationship. Some of the best friendships of my life. I hope you get to experience the same someday. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57840 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 14, 2013 05:26 PM
Obviously AG is struggling with some things( as most of us are) That is what we are allowed to do in SW Peas. If everyone was perfect, why talk? ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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T Knowflake Posts: 11090 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2013 05:28 PM
No one is telling him not to talk. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 14, 2013 05:31 PM
I don't think T was saying otherwise - just that she hopes that he can one day experience a great platonic male/female friendship. They're out there. Any number of people might claim that they're impossible, but there are a good number of us who've been a part of them without the creepy back rubs showcased in he Adam/Eve video ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57840 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 14, 2013 05:35 PM
Hanna said she heard it over and over, so why should he say it?You all know the pain I brought to LL. Sometimes people need to talk and work out things. I had people telling me to shut up but I needed to talk. Wise people let someone talk. There are other people who want to talk to that person. If you don't, just ignore imo ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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T Knowflake Posts: 11090 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2013 05:36 PM
OMG "without the creepy backrubs" that did it for me. I did not click on the video, but I DO know about those. ROFL & thanks mockingbird, that IS what i was saying to ag. I hope he is able to experience that someday. *EDIT - not the creepy backrubs, obvi. lol although...... might help him walk a mile.... IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 11090 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2013 05:40 PM
Ami, the people who need to talk are talking.The rest of us should not feel like we have to walk on eggshells around the ultra sensitive folk. I think anyone who says anything, is saying something important. Whether you think they are or not. It might be just what the other person needed to hear. We are big boys and girls here and you don't need to go around telling everyone what to say and what not to or acting like you are tryinig to protect them. Or say who should hold their tounge and who should not. Thank you. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 14, 2013 05:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Here is a video that is relevant to the discussion. Its called adam and eve in the friendzone and was done by college humor.com. While this video is meant for comedic purposes it has lots of truth and I would be willing to bet that every man in the world has been through this at some point in his life. Notice how adam seems very annoyed by how eve wants to keep it platonic but smiles anyways? You are seeing first hand how most guys feel in that situation. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZsleyKons
Dude.Ok, this is *my opinion*, but if a girl accepts a back rub from a guy, she is leading him on (unless he's a professional masseuse or something). That is not "being friend zoned" - that is being strung along. This may just be my Scorp Asc talking, but do you know who gives me back massages? People I sleep with or people I'm paying - either the most intimate or the least. Well, and now that my children are getting older, they like to try - so there's the other category: people who used to live inside of me. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 11090 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 14, 2013 05:45 PM
When a guy insists on giving you a friendly backrub, you know he's interested in more. Not all guys are looking to do that, ag. Believe it or not. Some of them do indeed enjoy a females company and are not trying to get in their pants. It's true. Great friendships can bloom from there, no matter what sex one is. I think you could benefit greatly from having more female friends. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 4748 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted August 14, 2013 05:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I don't know what it is but I will vouch that Aquarius' bring out my argumentative side more than anybody on the planet. Libras tie or come in a close second.AG, that is your truth. Yours. We know how you feel and have for a very long time, and no matter how adamant either side is there seems to be no progress made. What is the point of arguing this anymore?
Yes yes yes!!!! I have no idea how many times I've said the same thing over and over. I'm a libra and he's why I don't really get along with alot of Aquariuses. They're always trying to shove their opinion down your throat. It's annoying I don't get why we're still talking about this when the topic is jealousy not should girls have male friends
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 57840 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 14, 2013 05:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by T: Ami, the people who need to talk are talking.The rest of us should not feel like we have to walk on eggshells around the ultra sensitive folk. I think anyone who says anything, is saying something important. Whether you think they are or not. It might be just what the other person needed to hear. We are big boys and girls here and you don't need to go around telling everyone what to say and what not to or acting like you are tryinig to protect them. Or say who should hold their tounge and who should not. Thank you.
Anyhoo, I have a thread for you in Gaaia's Garden ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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