posted October 06, 2013 07:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Oh I should mention though - even these self-centred types do get along with Cancer Sun and/or Moon women.
I noticed that!

However.. the way the relationship works is that the Cancer influenced woman does everything for them... and they kind of lie back and think of England.
They don't give. They just take. Like a baby.

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Sadly true for me for awhile, but I told him if he wanted to play Joe Buck he needed to go stand outside at the nearest street corner in buttless chaps. I think his behavior was too demeaning to catergorize as male or female.

posted October 06, 2013 07:22 PM            

Does that make sense?

Are you still with the same person? I have wanted to ask you.

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posted October 06, 2013 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
What qualities exactly define what a man is?
Is it the stereotype?

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From what I've seen a man has things handled, knows what he wants and knows what he enjoys and says what he means and means what he says if at all possible.

Also we have beliefs and character that we do not abandon when someone says "Boo...that's wrong! Hisss"

posted October 06, 2013 08:25 PM            

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@LEXX & lots of

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posted October 06, 2013 08:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Oh I do, men with vaginas is never optimal.

Half stepping, purposeless men who have no idea what they are about, or even what they believe or know, is the menu dejour for that demographic/

If one does not agree, that is fine, differences make the world go around.

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posted October 06, 2013 08:38 PM              

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Originally posted by Padre35:
From what I've seen a man has things handled, knows what he wants and knows what he enjoys and says what he means and means what he says if at all possible.

Also we have beliefs and character that we do not abandon when someone says "Boo...that's wrong! Hisss"

Ahm, yeah.

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posted October 06, 2013 08:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
What an awful thing to say

I make no secret that I'm an older man, there are a couple of things that amaze me:

-Young guys today, even military vets, are clueless literally they walk around in a world of "..I could never talk to her..."

-Young women are far far more aggressive then they once were

I see young purposeless guys all the time, they are employed and have careers it's not that, it is more that they are drones.

Blank slates, who merely have vague ideas and lots and lots of envy

Ambition is removed from everything now

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I cannot dispute ANY of the above remarks. Total Truth.

I definitely feel like I've been born into the wrong generation. This mindset that most of them have is again, lazy & trifling in most areas of life. And the *women* don't know their power...so they let men get away with this nonsense. No standards! Eww.

posted October 06, 2013 09:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Oh I should mention though - even these self-centred types do get along with Cancer Sun and/or Moon women.
I noticed that!

However.. the way the relationship works is that the Cancer influenced woman does everything for them... and they kind of lie back and think of England.
They don't give. They just take. Like a baby.

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Ummm...no one will be lying back while I do everything for them and I get nothing in return. This is part of what got me riled up in the first place!

The Taurus Moons I know are women and we get along just fine. We do thoughtful little things for each other.

But dammit Odette, now I'll be on guard when I do meet men who have Taurus Moon! LOL.

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Originally posted by Padre35:
From what I've seen a man has things handled, knows what he wants and knows what he enjoys and says what he means and means what he says if at all possible.

Also we have beliefs and character that we do not abandon when someone says "Boo...that's wrong! Hisss"

Ahm, yeah.

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THERE YOU GO. And that's all folks!!!

*closes down thread* LOL

You'd think these would be BASIC qualities that men would possess. But no - it's a total RARITY today.

Of course a man can have 'other' great traits besides these. But this is where it should start!

posted October 06, 2013 09:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
What qualities exactly define what a man is?

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In my eyes, a man is "a man" when he takes responsibility of his own life, actions and decisions. When things don't go well, he would examine his own character and behaviour first.

posted October 06, 2013 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
In my eyes, a man is "a man" when he takes responsibility of his own life, actions and decisions. When things don't go well, he would examine his own character and behaviour first.

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posted October 06, 2013 09:49 PM            

I see everything as a give and take in a relationship.
And if I feel like I am not being given *enough* and the other person seems lazy to me.. like they expect a lot - but don't give much... I can't be with them.

So - I definitely keep score.
Cancer Moon does not keep score.

Usually this is not an issue.. because with most people - even though somewhere at the back of my mind I'm keeping score... they do more or less, hold up their own end of the relationship or friendship.

But with Taurus Mooners they just don't do enough for me.
I hate to say it.. because it sounds snobbish..
But I just feel like I am doing a *lot* for them, and they are literally happy to sit down and do nothing at all.

This is the best description I found of Capricorn Moon women:

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Capricorn works hard and ages backward. She has the heart of the little red hen. She planted the seed, weeded the field, reaped the grain, and baked the bread. If you want to share it with her you’d better have showed up and worked alongside. In this context, aging backward means she put her emotional work first and it’s at the end of the timeline that she may relax and enjoy the fruits of her labor. In relationship terms she has had a “right heart” with you and expects the same if you want to share her bread and eventually her hearth.

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LovelyAries -

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no one will be lying back while I do everything for them and I get nothing in return. This is part of what got me riled up in the first place!

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posted October 06, 2013 09:55 PM            

Each placement is so very unique with it's strengths and it's weaknesses.

I guess that is the whole thing. We have our strengths and our weaknesses.

My closest friend is a Cap moon, opposite my Cancer Moon. He is very different from me but it feels very refreshing as a balance.

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posted October 06, 2013 09:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
From what I've seen a man has things handled, knows what he wants and knows what he enjoys and says what he means and means what he says if at all possible.

Also we have beliefs and character that we do not abandon when someone says "Boo...that's wrong! Hisss"

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posted October 06, 2013 09:58 PM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
In my eyes, a man is "a man" when he takes responsibility of his own life, actions and decisions. When things don't go well, he would examine his own character and behaviour first.

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posted October 06, 2013 10:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Men like this are rare..?
I've known plenty of women like this.
I think those are some qualities most adults should have.. well imo.
Also I think you described typical Aries, Sagittarius traits.
Aren't you fire dominant?
Biased to our own qualities huh?

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Triple Fire, and you are more correct than you may realize Kero.

I've found women who have more of the traits I've listed then most of the men I've met in the last 2 yrs.

To boil that down, I've found women more willing to stand up and do what they believe in then young men are now.

Young dudes just seem swaddled in this sort of pink goo of not wanting to offend anyone and to go along to get along time after time.

posted October 06, 2013 10:53 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
So what is a woman then?

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When she is herself, a byproduct of this era is women tend to have to lead men (if they are hetero) to do anything.

Even the most basic of skills like having a conversation, in person, that is fun for both parties 9 times out of 10 she has to lead it.

posted October 06, 2013 10:56 PM              

Your idea of a real man or woman is your own perception!
There is no right answer.

Some women dig "pansies" some do not.
Some men prefer independent women some want to provide for them.

So every time I hear someone say
I want a real man!
I want a real woman!

posted October 06, 2013 11:00 PM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
In my eyes, a man is "a man" when he takes responsibility of his own life, actions and decisions. When things don't go well, he would examine his own character and behaviour first.

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that is a part of it, the other thing is a man also creates, his mind is bent towards making things happen.

From building his own furniture to his career, a man is in motion and acquires skills and wisdom and forsight to avoid the mistakes he made as a youth while still creating whatever it is he puts his hands (or mind) to doing

posted October 06, 2013 11:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
LOL it was hypothetical and sarcastic question.

Your idea of a real man or woman is your own perception!
There is no right answer.

Some women dig "pansies" some do not.
Some men prefer independent women some want to provide for them.

So every time I hear someone say
I want a real man!
I want a real woman!

I wanna tell them to look in the mirror because they obviously think they fit these qualities.
If you exist I'm sure there are plenty of others like yourself.

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Don't laugh Kero, from what I've seen women have more spunk and fight and determination then most of the young guys I've hung out with

This is why I say women are more aggressive then I recall.

It's funny in a way, I've had more young girls tell me "I'm down" (ahhem) then I've seen young guys even bother to hit on women around them.

I only recently learned what "DTF" means

posted October 06, 2013 11:09 PM              

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Triple Fire, and you are more correct than you may realize Kero.

I've found women who have more of the traits I've listed then most of the men I've met in the last 2 yrs.

To boil that down, I've found women more willing to stand up and do what they believe in then young men are now.

Young dudes just seem swaddled in this sort of pink goo of not wanting to offend anyone and to go along to get along time after time.

It really is amusing to watch actually

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posted October 06, 2013 11:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Hey! It saddens me that I have all these problems with Taurus Mooners.. Because we are both earth Moons and it should be a good relationship.
But I've had a bunch of negative (one awful!) experiences.
I know a couple of Leos with this Moon and one Sagittarius - and they are all so self-centred and pretty selfish.
They seem to care more about money and material things than anything else. My impression is that they're looking for a mother figure who will take care of them (but not so much on an emotional level... as on a financial level).

I don't want to generalise. Aqua Guy does not come across this way and he has a Taurus Moon.. and I know your son has a Taurus Moon.
Maybe I was just unlucky enough to meet guys who don't display the best qualities of this Moon sign.

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