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Topic: Stop ganging up on each other!
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9333 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 09, 2014 12:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: So your opinion hasn't changed since the rape thread?As I said there, you're blaming women for being leery of men who have the physical ability to rape them, and then turning around blaming them for not being skeptical and not taking necessary precautions. Why should a woman have to be mindful of her dress if men are so rarely a threat that she ought not to think or talk about it? But you're saying, on the other hand, that one man in a group might be a threat, and she'll never be sure which one that is, so she should dress protectively against all men...since any one of them might be the rapist...but then erase the reason for her protective dress from her mind while socializing. To remember why she is wearing baggy pants instead of a miniskirt to the nightclub is man-hating. Something like that? 
No.... I'm saying exercise common sense and good judgement... For example, being leery of hooking up with men at nightclubs. Alcohol and hanging out with random people do not mix.. And this is a mistake tons of women make. And on the manner of dress.... It is not an issue of misogyny/sexism... Everybody, men and women, are judged on how they dress. Case and point: one of my good friends is into the gothic style of dress. He wears all black, has long hair dyed black, and has piercings. He is regularly targeted by the police and gets stopped and searched because the cops view him as suspicious because of his appearance. He was even stopped by cops and searched and questioned on his way into the courthouse to get married! All because of his dress. And let's not forget that wearing the wrong colors in the wrong city/neighborhood can get you shot. These are sad facts of life.... And when it comes to women's manner of dress there are men out there who are going to view them as easy if they dress in certain ways.. And yes those clothes can draw attention from certain messed-up men who would attack.. Its not fair but that is the way it is.. Its not something exclusive to women because I (or any other man) could draw unpleasant attention to myself by wearing certain clothes. Thats just the way it is.... I could gripe and moan about how unfair it is that I cant wear a blue shirt on the blood gang's turf without feeling threatened. I could also rant that bloods need to be educated that is wrong to target people with blue clothing but it wouldn't do any good. I would still be putting myself in danger by wearing the blue shirt.... Messed up people are going to be messed up ... You cant reason with them, they dont care about what you think... All you can do is be smart and try to avoid such people.IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 1534 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted May 09, 2014 12:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: [b]I also want to add that since AG always seems to be the hot topic of most arguments:IMO, I see him as someone who says what he thinks. Not to get attention as some have alleged. Yes, some of what he says isn't everyones cup of tea but when straight out name calling and finger pointing ensues because there's a difference of opinion then obviously a fight is waiting to happen! This is just my opinion as I honestly don't detect any malicious intent from his side. To me, he is misunderstood. I agree. There are people here who LIVE to start fights and it is not AG. For the people criticizing the Mods, you may be very surprised if you are in the shoes of a Mod. One guy, name withheld, was always criticizing the Mods. Then, he became a Mod. He lasted a week and begged not to be a Mod  [/B]
I've personally never claimed to be able to do a better job. If I did then shame on me. Well, with the exception of being biased which I wouldn't do. I'll say this: the best behaved sites with not much restrictions on freedom of expression had two things LL doesn't. 1) more mods for more eyes That could get ugly but not when teamed up with 2) very clear, black and white rules and little left to mod interpretation. I can expand on that later if needed.
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MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 1520 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 09, 2014 12:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: But; but... but I Love You.
I never want to assume anyone even likes me!! LOL! I wonder where that insecurity is in my chart.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 54540 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 09, 2014 12:59 PM
People who won't accept who they are cause untold problems for others. This is on every level--individual, group and societal. If there is evil in life, it is from people who won't face themselves. If someone won't face who they are, I don't want to be part of their drama. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 745 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 09, 2014 01:05 PM
I think most people have trouble facing all of who they are, Ami. Some realizations take time, and I think there is value in helping others on that path. Granted, some are more stubborn than others and there is a point at which one simply has to give up and turn the other cheek.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 54540 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 09, 2014 01:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sibyl: I think most people have trouble facing all of who they are, Ami. Some realizations take time, and I think there is value in helping others on that path. Granted, some are more stubborn than others and there is a point at which one simply has to give up and turn the other cheek.
There are degrees, S, but my observing of Faith for many years is that she is in the outer ends and hence, I don't want any relationship with her, other than passing on here. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 745 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 09, 2014 01:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: There are degrees, S, but my observing of Faith for many years is that she is in the outer ends and hence, I don't want any relationship with her, other than passing on here.
By the extent of your interaction I would say you do have a relationship Do you have a nice thing to say to her by the way? If not I'd say she has 'won' this argument as she was able to differentiate between who you symbolize to her versus who you are to other people. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 7666 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 09, 2014 01:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by MoonWitch: I never want to assume anyone even likes me!! LOL! I wonder where that insecurity is in my chart.
I Love You, it is fine!  IP: Logged |
MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 1520 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 09, 2014 01:09 PM
Many of us (try) to avoid people we don't mix well with. Sometimes that doesn't always work but at least we try!IP: Logged |
Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 745 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 09, 2014 01:09 PM
Anyway, yeah, you guys should never get married  IP: Logged |
MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 1520 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 09, 2014 01:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: I Love You, it is fine! 
You are sweet!
Thank you Maybe I'll start posting more.
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Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 745 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 09, 2014 01:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by MoonWitch: Many of us (try) to avoid people we don't mix well with. Sometimes that doesn't always work but at least we try!
That's probably the wise option... The diplomatic and better for everybody option. I sometimes seek them out in RL because I want to get to the bottom of why I don't like them. That, unfortunately, includes having to be nice. No one likes me as much as the people I dislike. Especially guys. I become one big smile in order to hide my dissatisfaction Btw, I like you too! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 54540 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 09, 2014 01:13 PM
Anyway, bottom line is that people in severe denial cause many problems for many people and hence, one has to stay away and/or stand up when need be, and usually the need will be, as happened on here.  ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 7666 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 09, 2014 01:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by MoonWitch: You are sweet!Thank you Maybe I'll start posting more.
Hooray! IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 7666 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 09, 2014 01:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Anyway, bottom line is that people in severe denial cause many problems for many people and hence, one has to stay away and/or stand up when need be, and usually the need will be, as happened on here. 
Ami Anne, you have a Dejanira call on Line Four... 
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Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 745 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 09, 2014 01:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Anyway, bottom line is that people in severe denial cause many problems for many people and hence, one has to stay away and/or stand up when need be, and usually the need will be, as happened on here. 
Yes, I wish I was better at this.  I don't really feel like I'm able to make any judgments about it yet. I mean I just don't know.  IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6968 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 09, 2014 01:43 PM
Much Ado About NothingSeems to me that AQ has no issue defending his ground. It's part of growing up. The rest of you better question yourselves why you have such a hard on (figuratively since you guys are females) for AQ. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 7666 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 09, 2014 01:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: Much Ado About NothingSeems to me that AQ has no issue defending his ground. It's part of growing up. The rest of you better question yourselves why you have such a hard on (figuratively since you guys are females) for AQ.
I was taking note that he has the women here flocking around him most of the time... IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6968 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 09, 2014 01:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: I was taking note that he has the women here flocking around him most of the time...
It seems to me that behind all that squabbling, there's a large attraction IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 54540 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 09, 2014 01:56 PM
LL can provide anyone the insight to look at himself/herself. If you are here long enough, you are going to get that opportunity. You can take it or you can urinate it away. I took it. I want to face myself. I want to be honest about who I am because life has little value without it. We can face ourselves by SEEING how we interact with others or from people who give us their perspective. I took it from both things and hence I matured. The people who have not faced themselves are still the same as when I got here 6 years ago or they have left, blaming OTHER people for their leaving. However, they will be the same wherever they go in life, here or anywhere. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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7thGuardian Knowflake Posts: 1248 From: Transylvania Registered: May 2012
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posted May 09, 2014 02:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: People who won't accept who they are cause untold problems for others. This is on every level--individual, group and societal. If there is evil in life, it is from people who won't face themselves. If someone won't face who they are, I don't want to be part of their drama.
That's true...
But since you keep repeating that here and there - "that's a message to yourself" - that comes from your subconscious mind, as you're doing it from a "blockage" mode. Inner Ami keeps trying to tell outer Ami - what causes both inner and outer turmoils (with others). Though, outer Ami - is afraid to deal with this demon she created - so she's letting it loose on others to deal with it - as that's the comfortable approach: denial (I don't have this problems - others do). And that's also the reason why you protect AG - cause as you put it: this reminds you of the way people treated you - when you kept mentioning about your issues with your mother. But the truth is - those issues "are another demon" - you didn't wanna face, so you let it loose on others... which ofc "reacted correspondingly (defensive)" - thus your constant issues with all kind of people from lindaland - who couldn't put with your demon. Your issues with your mother are a thing of the past (she moved on), but that demon you created back then - is still active inside of you - still pointing at your mother as if that happened yesterday - and the wounds are fresh - but in reality it's that inner demon who keeps opening up old wounds... and it will keep doing so until - you acknowledged it and tame him - until you realize that - he's the one that's causing you real pain - in relation to the past. Not your mother. - so, that's what you saw in AG (as a common grown): someone who refuses to deal with his inner demons - but instead it lets them loose on others just like you did with that demon you created when you had a hard time with your mother - in same way he created inner demons while having a hard time with women (and others - like "The pessimist"). And in same way... he refuses to deal with them and keeps letting them loose on others - to deal with them... Thus - he's stuck on same turmoils - as those demons grew stronger and stronger on the outside - at first bothering others and putting them on a mental/emotional defense - but eventually - it will turn physical as that's the only thing left. A point - where he'll hurt someone - thus society will react accordingly and deal with the danger at hand as it sees fit. It's same way Cancer works on a cellular level (created cancer - not inherited). And if one - cant deal with it and heal it internally, eventually - it will start to spread - infecting other cells. Which is like a inner riot - where the Cancer - feels justified in his actions... The infected cells die - and that leaves an open space - where the cancerous cells progresses, though - they're competing (arguing - so to speak) - with healthy cells... where each tries to take that place. One can not argue - that it's better for healthy cells to win the battle. Yet, each "fight for their place - while feeling that its the right thing to do". And back to inner demons... you already dealt with one (that i'm aware of), that demon that made you think you're worthless - thus you fought with it internally - till you found "Astrology" and laughed in his face. But in same way - you could have let it loose on others (I'm worthless... i can't do nothing good in this world... there's no use for me... and so on). So, there - you have an example... of what it means to tame/conquer - and inner demon. PS. Since my quote and till i managed to answer - you've repeated similar things - 3 times. Your inner-self - keeps trying and trying and trying - to open your eyes. It's just that... our time here - is limited and if you won't manage to do this in your current experience (current life) - you might carry this burden in a future experience (future life). As your soul - can't evolve otherwise. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 1721 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 09, 2014 02:17 PM
Lol. AQ Himself stated he was posting to cause a stir. How is anyone projecting that on him when he said it himself? As to denial, those who call facts and differing views attacks are in denial themselves, and if AQ has any problem with people objecting to his views he has a strange way of showing it. Face it, anyone who wants not to be contradicted or argued with doesn't repeatedly bring the same topic that has created arguments in the past...They start a blog or use another format which is less open to controversy Personally I don't know why anyone rises to the bait anymore but I have been guilty of the same stubborn behavior so I'm not going to stop people who want to beat their heads against brick walls. We all learn at our own pace. IP: Logged |
MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 1520 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 09, 2014 02:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Catalina:
Personally I don't know why anyone rises to the bait anymore but I have been guilty of the same stubborn behavior so I'm not going to stop people who want to beat their heads against brick walls. We all learn at our own pace.
I suppose I've taken the bait the past week or so because it's sort of a topic that's been on my mind a lot the past several months at least so it's given me an excuse to talk about it. Honestly, I didn't pay enough attention to aquaguy before now to know it's a pattern. Side note: It's interesting if a woman disagrees or argues with a man that people even here take that to mean there is an attraction or figurative hard-on. The terminology is fascinating. "Flocking"... "squabbling", etc. I think that illustrates how deep the issue goes with how women are perceived. If it were two men arguing a topic and disagreeing it likely wouldn't be seen the same way. It would just be guys having a debate. IP: Logged |
Violets Moderator Posts: 3481 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 09, 2014 02:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ellynlvx: Et tu, MoonWitch?*sob*
But I love you! Let's just go walk in the garden. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 7666 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 09, 2014 03:25 PM
No, guys can flock and squabble too.It's all the same to me. IP: Logged |