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Liliya
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posted May 08, 2014 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
C'mon people... I'm not the most active nor popular here, but I'm sick of people ganging up against each other! I love coming here. I've learned sooo much, more than I have on other websites. But I hate seeing 2-3 camps. C'mon, it's astrology. Everyone is allowed to express their feelings or experience. Instead with fighting, just try to at least consider other persons point of view. Sometimes, my Virgo Venus/Asc feel so intimidated, that I can't stand up to myself or people I like here. C'mon chillax...


PS. Feeling like making a "sexual astrology website", since 50% of topics I like are being blocked.

PS2. I may not be the popular after this, but I miss DeepFreeze on LG.

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Sibyl
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posted May 08, 2014 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes it is necessary.

The "let's all be friends and hold hands" is hardly the most productive approach when discussing personal development.

There are no camps. There are only very strong opinions. They should not be censured. If you don't want to deal with these people's personalities, I suggest you take a lesson from Ami and learn to ignore. I think it would make your life much easier.

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Liliya
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posted May 08, 2014 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know. I have not made a "bond" with anyone, yet. I don't think, anyone would give s*** if I leave (not that I'm going to), but I see how some people attack others in groups.

It's ok to have different points of view, I just hope people can see, that if it's not yours, it doesn't mean it is wrong.

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Chiemi
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posted May 08, 2014 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're fine and don't worry about being "popular" or whatever. We're all technically just a bunch of anonymous people behind a computer screen and keyboard.

With that said, I think that's honestly why people are even more argumentative and combative since people seem to (usually) express themselves and their opinions more openly online than in real life.

I wouldn't take it to heart though, especially since we'll probably never meet these people in real life.

I agree with @Sibyl about ignoring it, or at least not getting worked up over it.

And don't let anyone here intimidate you!

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Ami Anne
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posted May 08, 2014 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks S. The lessons I have learned on LL, like ignoring, have really given me wisdom for my real life. I could never have my website if I had not learned these lessons. I get all sorts of hassle on there

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posted May 08, 2014 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If someone posts a baiting thread and a lot of people disagree and rise to the bait, that doesn't make them a gang tho it maylook like one. And the instigator is at least as aggressive/ antagonistic as the.people who disagree. It takes two to tangle - at least

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Ami Anne
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posted May 08, 2014 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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DeepFreeze
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posted May 08, 2014 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
C'mon people... I'm not the most active nor popular here, but I'm sick of people ganging up against each other! I love coming here. I've learned sooo much, more than I have on other websites. But I hate seeing 2-3 camps. C'mon, it's astrology. Everyone is allowed to express their feelings or experience. Instead with fighting, just try to at least consider other persons point of view. Sometimes, my Virgo Venus/Asc feel so intimidated, that I can't stand up to myself or people I like here. C'mon chillax...


PS. Feeling like making a "sexual astrology website", since 50% of topics I like are being blocked.

PS2. I may not be the popular after this, but I miss DeepFreeze on LG.


Thank you

I lurk still, but only occasionally. I miss (as in do not see them) a great deal of things here.
Ganging up seems to be the norm. People will do many things to prove their point. I hate to have gone as far as I have in attempting to prove something. I truly believe that it really doesn't matter who agrees with what here. It won't change anything. At most our interaction with certain individuals but big deal right?
It is incredibly easy to get wrapped up in our opinions and have this fight to the death attitude that leads to frustration when the others act the same.
I don't know if it's everyone's fault or no one's fault. If I'm making any sense at all. I may just be mumbling. lol

But I will say, with such loose moderation I don't see a whole lot changing. It's claimed that mods can't be everywhere to see what's going on which in some cases is a lie because they were a part of it. Maybe the answer is more (trusted) mods to have more coverage.

I don't care too much, much at all really because occasional lurking is working out just awesome for me.
A wonderful thing that I did for myself. It's crazy to think of how wrapped up in it I was.
We're all strangers, I see now that there definitely needs to be lines drawn on when to just agree to disagree. Versus insulting someone personally or their opinion in a personal way. I also never understood why people get all bent out of shape if one of their placements is picked on. No single placement makes the whole so again, who cares.
People even open new threads to continue one that was closed. Just let it go.

There's a very small handful of people here that I just won't deal with anymore. Some of the people that I'm sure fit in with those topic. But, bah... No biggie. I don't have the desire or will to argue with anyone. LL is interesting to visit from time to time but I'm not going to invest myself in it.

I appreciate the risk to your popularity to express that I'm missed. lol
I'm sure you'll be fine.
I don't think anyone really HATED me, possibly one.
I agree, the general environment went downhill in the pursuit of of freedom. Even freedom needs boundaries.

Take care!

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Liliya
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posted May 08, 2014 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EDIT: sorry, I didn't know about the email rule.

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Randall
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posted May 08, 2014 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Posting of e-mail addresses is not allowed.

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Randall
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posted May 08, 2014 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because people agree with one another, that doesn't make them a gang. Ganging up implies several on one. As far as I can see, that hasn't happened at LL. AG might feel that way at times.

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DeepFreeze
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posted May 08, 2014 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Email addresses are not allowed, however, I have seen some up and remain posted for quite some time.
An example of the biased moderation that I'm talking about.
I mean... Well I'll leave names out although I'm sure you'll know right away. How many chances is a certain individual going to get with posting very inappropriate sexually graphic comments and pictures? They're not a Leo but I'd swear they have nine lives.
They've been warned again and again along with getting threads closed. Even called out by name that they got the threads closed, yet, they remain. I don't care other than things do not seem to be dealt with consistently.
Ganging up is off course a bit of a gray area. It can be seen differently depending upon the position of the individual forming that opinion.

I can think of several, including AG who I would say have been ganged up on.
Also, why is it that more and more people are feeling this way?
I think that should clue to into a possible trend, and a negative one.
There is a line of sharing and debating opinions, and yes sometimes one person holds an unpopular one.
Yet, when insults come, and it's allowed, yet stated that they are not allowed. Let's face it, they are. I've even pointed them out with links (to a mod) and it was excused and brushed aside. Then the poster claimed to have said something else... No matter what kind of word used in "----- off". No one should be told "off" anything.

There's a thread right now in Hearth and Home that the people said, "it's good that this is like 50 pages long so people won't see us talking crap about them. Who's going to go through all of that?" They edit posts to communicate as well as to not bump it to the top. I see things people don't realize that I do.... Or did anyway.

People use the word "debate" here a lot... Shooooot, a lot of things said here wouldn't fly in a courtroom, wouldn't fly on a televised debate show or any other debate meetings. It wouldn't fly anywhere. Sexual things are considered explicit because we have some young people around but dirty insults are allowed as long as direct name calling is not used, although I've seen that slide by. Seems.... Well you get what I'm saying.

Well whatever.... I'm just going to go back to "seems to be becoming a trend for those complaint" though I'm sure it will continue to be ignored.

By the way, I'm not at all innocent but when you feel that you have to, you resort to the same. Eye for an eye.

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DeepFreeze
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posted May 08, 2014 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pardon my phone typos, I'm too lazy to fix them.
I guess that's my view and all that I really need to say on that.
It's a pointless thing pretty much when the blind are the ones in control.

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posted May 08, 2014 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never heard AG complain about feeling ganged up on. He has his opinions and has no qualms about expressing them; nor does he moan, whine, gripe, or complain about it. Women often complain that one of the problems they have is with whiney men.

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posted May 08, 2014 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've never heard AG complain about feeling ganged up on. He has his opinions and has no qualms about expressing them; nor does he moan, whine, gripe, or complain about it. Women often complain that one of the problems they have is with whiney men.

I know what you're implying but I've had no trouble there pal. I voice myself... Big difference.

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posted May 08, 2014 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heck, your man AG tried (in a private setting) to get with Barbie and failed. (as did others I believe)
He knows.

I'll leave the details out.

Instead of facing what I said, you know it's true, you resort to insulting me yourself.
The mystery of why it gets let by is solved.

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posted May 08, 2014 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was saying AG has never whined about being ganged up on. Not sure how you see an insult in that.

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posted May 09, 2014 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Heck, your man AG tried (in a private setting) to get with Barbie and failed.


Huh? This is new to me. When barbie first joined Lindaland we chatted on the forum and playfully flirted, which is par for the course with this forum.. People flirt and joke around. And we did exchange a few emails but I never tried to "get with her". I cant speak on whether other people tried to get with her or not because I wouldn't know anything about that.

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posted May 09, 2014 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I was saying AG has never whined about being ganged up on. Not sure how you see an insult in that.

Why was it necessary to bring up women and etc? You could have just said AG blah blah blah.
Don't play stupid man... You know very well what you were doing.

And STILL sidestepped what I've been saying and all you really have to say is that you disagree or don't see it.

AG... this is all that I'm acknowledging you. I'm doing you a favor by sparing to embarrassment. Randall brought you in this and decided to imply subtly that I'm whiny and therefore appear less desirable to women... Soooooooo

Anyway, I think I've proven my point and your actions have helped me do it Randall.


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posted May 09, 2014 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Whatever you say. 😎

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posted May 09, 2014 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only point you have proven is that you can't seem to resist posting here.

Whether you are whiney or not, desirable to women or not, or anything else in that vein is of no concern of mine.

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posted May 09, 2014 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:

But I will say, with such loose moderation I don't see a whole lot changing. It's claimed that mods can't be everywhere to see what's going on which in some cases is a lie because they were a part of it. Maybe the answer is more (trusted) mods to have more coverage.


This has been my issue with AG's threads. Although I don't agree with his opinions on many things, he is entitled to his opinion and I'm not going to 'gang' up on him or spew names. The problem is that one of the mods here is too emotionally attached to him and creating an unnecessary bias, adding tension to his threads.

BTW, I wish the both of you hadn't left b/c the way you were treated, especially Barbie, was ridiculous. The mods weren't really there when people 'ganged' up on her. I appreciated that the both of you were very passionate debaters on here- I think Barbie was misunderstood a lot and instead of people taking the time to clarify or get what she was saying, took the easy way out and went on the offensive.

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posted May 09, 2014 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think threads like this just prove how biased and un objective people are. Take the sand situation for example..most of the forum bickered and complained when he was booted off the forum because they liked him. Yet when someone is partial to me, like Ami, its suddenly unfair and some want to cry foul. And consider that Bella brought up that barbie and deepfreeze were ganged up on. When the reality is I, and many others, have gotten flak for having unpopular opinions. Almost everyone gets fired up around here at times. So Imo everyone needs to quit pointing fingers and try to stay objective and realize that nothing here is personal. We are on an internet forum afterall.

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posted May 09, 2014 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just words on a page.

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posted May 09, 2014 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MOSH PIT!
http://youtu.be/b03hJw-JNJ0?t=1m22s

Which one of these words don't you understand?
Talking to you, is like clapping with one hand...

I'm trying to reason but you don't understand
Talking in circles, we'll never get it straight
Just you and me in our theatre of hate


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I hadn't even thought of that song in like 10 years (possibly longer) but somehow this thread made me think of it.

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