posted May 28, 2014 02:02 PM            

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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
Execellent post!! Agreed on all points.

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posted May 28, 2014 02:33 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Oh feminism does inspire anger... Alot of them are the most angry bunch of hags you could ever meet. I have seen how underhanded and passive aggressive they can be... Case and point: some feminists went to great lengths to publicly humiliate a group of men who I know from another forum. They tracked down their facebook pages and other social network accounts, posted their pics, where they live, and blatant lies on a website they had set up to shame them! How pathetic and underhanded is that? On the shaming page they set up for one guy they told lies that were beyond absurd, they stated that he is a pedophile and is serving a prison sentence for trying to kidnap and rape a 13 year old girl.. Guess what? I talk to that guy on a regular basis! He runs several websites and is working on another website. He is a successful programmer by profession and is married to a former model he met in Mexico. So dont try to tell me feminists are innocent and cuddly.. Often times they are ruthless and do whatever it takes to humiliate and discredit those who disagree with them.

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Let's ignore your insult to women and focus on the main course of your post.

These women tracked down an anonymous guy online and then put him up on a site where they wrote things about him that nobody but a few select people know. I can only imagine that unless these women are looking for some serious lawsuits they would at least make their information factually correct.

I understand that the disgusting p word is being applied to a lot of people currently, presenters and entertainers, of which these accusations, some may or may not be true.

Either way, could you kindly provide links to all the forums you know this guy from, and a link to the page where he is "named and shamed". That way we can all make our own informed decisions on the context and get some small idea of events instead of someone telling you and expecting you to believe them.

Working in an all Girl's school myself, I am acutely aware of the implications of any accusations or comments regarding myself and students. I stay as distant and professional as possible, and ensure that they only refer to me as Sir or Mr (Surname) If I feel uncomfortable with a situation or that any student(s) are being inappropriate, I flag it with both the school and my company. The issue is, once something is said, it can never be unsaid and given enough time, it will always exist in people's minds. So believe me when I say I fully understand the seriousness of accusing someone of anything.

Before you jump to conclusions and assume I am supporting you, I am not. I am simply stating I understand that accusations are serious, and I would hope that people make them with full understanding of the consequences in mind.

So again, please provide links to all these forums and pages if you would be so kind.

I would also like to add, that I am deeply troubled by views held by those in the world that trivialise things like abuse, sexual or other, and the trauma and experiences of those who have been through such things, and my heart goes out to them all.

posted May 28, 2014 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Wtf? How in the heck did you manage to take all of that nonsense away from my post? And what lowlife site? You dont even know who I am talking about or what site he runs. You are making huge assumptions about something you know absolutely nothing about. Your irrational response here proves that you have biases against men. I never said or implied what you are accusing me of saying... Maybe you are the one who needs to see a shrink.

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Case A

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:

Last time I checked feminism didnt influence a mass shooting, but antiPUA/MRA did, feminism sure as hell isn't linked to violence/anger.

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Your response:

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Oh feminism does inspire anger... Alot of them are the most angry bunch of hags you could ever meet. I have seen how underhanded and passive aggressive they can be... Case and point: some feminists went to great lengths to publicly humiliate a group of men who I know from another forum. They tracked down their facebook pages and other social network accounts, posted their pics, where they live, and blatant lies on a website they had set up to shame them! How pathetic and underhanded is that? On the shaming page they set up for one guy they told lies that were beyond absurd, they stated that he is a pedophile and is serving a prison sentence for trying to kidnap and rape a 13 year old girl.. Guess what? I talk to that guy on a regular basis! He runs several websites and is working on another website. He is a successful programmer by profession and is married to a former model he met in Mexico. So dont try to tell me feminists are innocent and cuddly.. Often times they are ruthless and do whatever it takes to humiliate and discredit those who disagree with them.

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If you didn't believe that feminism influenced the shooting then you wouldn't have made a rebuttal that it in fact "does" cause anger (enough to kill someone) and you also wouldn't have provided two examples in which one men were "targeted" by a bunch of angry hags (great choice of words by the way "nice guy") therefore what you are saying is that even in a case such as the one provided about your "friend" if he were to find himself angered (enough to potentially harm someone) it would be in his right *because of feminism and feminists*.

If you believed otherwise then your response would have been different.

Case B

Your second reply in the thread 'RIP Victims of Santa Barbara Shooting' further highlights why to me it seems like your justifying it because rather than acknowledging that this was a sad and tragic event and moving on, you start providing a rebuttal AND derailing the thread with your "facts" as to how "society has more sympathy for women" yada yada:

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

But let's just be real here.Women do not have to deal with rejection in the same way men do and you also have to realize that society at large has alot more sympathy for women. It is ok to belittle and make fun of men who get rejected by women and aren't popular. They call them neckbeards and fedoras. Alot of guys like that also get bullied and treated like **** . So its not hard to see why the ones who are already crazy end up going postal.

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and what sticks out the most to me here is the fact that you literally said:

Alot of guys like that also get bullied and treated like **** . So its not hard to see why the ones who are already crazy end up going postal.

Now to me, this just sounds like a big fat BUT. As in, "I'm sorry this happened, BUT he probably did it because he was pushed to the limit." Doesn't that sound a little odd? I mean, if you truly felt that this event was tragic and unjustifiable you would have said what you did in the first comment and left it at that. But you didn't.

And I may not "know" who he is or what site he runs but tell me, do you even "know" yourself? Surely not because if you infact were so "buddy buddy" I'm sure you wouldn't be here wasting time away bashing women. Isn't it like the saying "birds of the same feather"? If he's oh so "successful" professionally and with women I'm guessing, then why hasn't that rubbed off on you?

And LOL at irrational.

I'm honestly kind of lost as to how irrational simply equates to one being biased against Men?

Isn't the definition:
"not logical or reasonable."
"Not endowed with the power of reason." ?

posted May 28, 2014 02:42 PM            

Give me links that prove that this in fact did happen. This is the internet, you'd be dim to believe everything that you read on the internet that is not proven with evidence.

posted May 28, 2014 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
So according to 7thGuardian's (lack of) logic it would seem that anyone who says they are: attractive, skilled, funny, or possess any other positive trait they are obviously lying because they wouldn't need to say it if they really had those qualities. But I know better then that.... This is just another irrational attack on nice guys, of course it doesn't include any of those other things... And its especially hypocritical because 7thGuardian is one of these pop positivity clowns who would tell guys they aren't getting women because they "lack confidence".He would say that and in the next breath he would be trying to undermine a guys confidence by implying that the guy is a terrible person for knowing that he is a decent guy. This is exactly the kind of contradictory messages men get from society all the time... We are told to "be confident" and not beat ourselves up when we are rejected. But when a decent guy keeps getting rejected by women who instead choose thugs and the decent guy starts to notice this pattern and calls a spade a spade he is attacked from all sides. If a guy makes the mistake of saying that alot of women have bad taste in men and/or they lie about what they are attracted to (both of which are true) he is quickly labeled an assholish misogynistic entitled prick.... These idiots who tear us down and try to make us doubt and second guess ourselves are the same idiots who tell us to be confident and positive... They call all of this rubbish they spew "help". I call it for what it is... Psychological warfare... Anybody with the ability to be logical and rational should be able to see it for what it is.

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Well, you're under Ami's protection - so you can insult anyone in any way you like - you can even attack someone with violent threats - as you did with Xodian (saying that you wish you could aggress him physically - outside of a bar and other stuff like that) - cause "that's how nice guys behave" - and such behaviour is allowed from you around this place. I mind it more when it comes to others - cause as far as i'm concern - you can call me whatever you want or even threat me with physical aggression - if that makes you feel better. Everybody can be though from behind of a screen. :)

Such insulting and VIOLENT remarks, OVER SOME OPINIONS ABOUT CONSOLES and VIDEO GAMES: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/001645-3.html -_-

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is true, AG. You have to learn to listen to NOT what people say but what they DO. This goes for women, men and everyone.

I learned this lesson about "spiritual" people, too, who can be the NASTIEST people on the planet while dripping hearts and flowers from their lips :laughing:

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So yeah... as she said. :) I don't care what people say about themselves - how they praise themselves - those are just empty words until proven otherwise. A rule that applies both online and in the real world - especially in terms of skill and charisma.

If you wanna work in a place that requires a certain skill (let's say the Presidents of US) - you can praise yourself as skilled enough to do that job, but people will take you for a full until you proven yourself.

If you think you're funny - that's just your opinion about yourself, how funny you are - how charismatic you are - that's something that proves in relation to others. Or else - you'll be laughing by yourself - at your own jokes thinking that you're funny while the rest will take you for a fool.

You've proven to be most toxic member of this community - in every topic you bring negativity and hate cause of the things you say, the few people that can stand you - they either ignore your true self or they're like you (as it's the case with Ami). Some even force themselves to see the good in you - and yet after all the things you say (degrading both to women AND MEN...)- you still think that "you're a nice guy".

Nobody has a problem with truly nice guys, because - "they're nice" and they try do nice things for others most of the time. Yet... "in all this time you've proven to be the opposite of that (egocentric - you care only about yourself and "expect others to care as well - that's why you like Ami and Odette - even though - awhile back you used to fight with her most of the time... maybe - she's trying to be more spiritual)" - but you've been supported cause - Ami likes you - and she's a paying costumer of this site - while the rest of us...

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Originally posted by Randall:
Um, 95 percent? Your math skills could use fine-tuning. We get almost 15,000 unique visitors a day with only a literal handful who seem obsessed with Ami.

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I'm not sure if those statistics are accurate - but "those are just clicks on some random topics/pages" of the entire forum - by external users/visitor (non members of this forum)... and yet those clicks are compered - with the active and old members of this forum (the core/heart of this community). O_o Which makes sense only - in terms of business.

posted May 28, 2014 02:55 PM            

I am also the type of girl that approaches men first and tries very hard to be fair, even at my own expense. This is dangerous and put me at an awkward situation.

I brought enough money to pay for my own dinner and movie ticket. I never expect a man to pay for me. He paid and made a big show of it, then believed that gve him free range of my body. No, it didn't.

Anyway, I'm not sure if there is some magical formula of moves that one has to execute to find someone genuine. I heard that I have to create the environment around me that allows for the right person to walk into my life. The problem is that I'm not entirely sure what kind of man I want.

Is it possible we are all sending out mixed signals and attracting the wrong type of people currently, if we are indeed attracting people who are not good for us?

posted May 28, 2014 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by MetalAphrodite:
The negative term for nice guy does exist and I've often ran into guys that expected something for their "kindness" to me, whether that means I should let them kiss and touch me or emotionally bully me.

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posted May 28, 2014 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
But they are not nice then.

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That is true. I am pointing out that there is the flip side to the term nice guy, who hide behind this facade and insist.

posted May 28, 2014 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
and what sticks out the most to me here is the fact that you literally said:

[b] Alot of guys like that also get bullied and treated like **** . So its not hard to see why the ones who are already crazy end up going postal.

Now to me, this just sounds like a big fat BUT. As in, "I'm sorry this happened, BUT he probably did it because he was pushed to the limit." Doesn't that sound a little odd? I mean, if you truly felt that this event was tragic and unjustifiable you would have said what you did in the first comment and left it at that. But you didn't.

And I may not "know" who he is or what site he runs but tell me, do you even "know" yourself? Surely not because if you infact were so "buddy buddy" I'm sure you wouldn't be here wasting time away bashing women. Isn't it like the saying "birds of the same feather"? If he's oh so "successful" professionally and with women I'm guessing, then why hasn't that rubbed off on you?

And LOL at irrational.

I'm honestly kind of lost as to how irrational simply equates to one being biased against Men?

Isn't the definition:
"not logical or reasonable."
"Not endowed with the power of reason." ?

I'm only "biased" against Men in your eyes because I disagree with you.[/B]

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posted May 28, 2014 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
and what sticks out the most to me here is the fact that you literally said:

[b] Alot of guys like that also get bullied and treated like **** . So its not hard to see why the ones who are already crazy end up going postal.

Now to me, this just sounds like a big fat BUT. As in, "I'm sorry this happened, BUT he probably did it because he was pushed to the limit." Doesn't that sound a little odd? I mean, if you truly felt that this event was tragic and unjustifiable you would have said what you did in the first comment and left it at that. But you didn't.

And I may not "know" who he is or what site he runs but tell me, do you even "know" yourself? Surely not because if you infact were so "buddy buddy" I'm sure you wouldn't be here wasting time away bashing women. Isn't it like the saying "birds of the same feather"? If he's oh so "successful" professionally and with women I'm guessing, then why hasn't that rubbed off on you?

And LOL at irrational.

I'm honestly kind of lost as to how irrational simply equates to one being biased against Men?

Isn't the definition:
"not logical or reasonable."
"Not endowed with the power of reason." ?

I'm only "biased" against Men in your eyes because I disagree with you.[/B]

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posted May 28, 2014 03:29 PM            

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posted May 28, 2014 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
I agree with @SwiftFreeze

Give me links that prove that this in fact did happen. This is the internet, you'd be dim to believe everything that you read on the internet that is not proven with evidence.

Until then all of these "he said, she said, but my cousins brothers baby sisters aunt said xyz happened" stories of yours are nothing more than possible bs scenarios made by you to help further justify your views.

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posted May 28, 2014 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
I agree with @SwiftFreeze

Give me links that prove that this in fact did happen. This is the internet, you'd be dim to believe everything that you read on the internet that is not proven with evidence.

Until then all of these "he said, she said, but my cousins brothers baby sisters aunt said xyz happened" stories of yours are nothing more than possible bs scenarios made by you to help further justify your views.

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posted May 28, 2014 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
I agree with @SwiftFreeze

Give me links that prove that this in fact did happen. This is the internet, you'd be dim to believe everything that you read on the internet that is not proven with evidence.

Until then all of these "he said, she said, but my cousins brothers baby sisters aunt said xyz happened" stories of yours are nothing more than possible bs scenarios made by you to help further justify your views.

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posted May 28, 2014 03:32 PM            

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But they are not nice then.

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Exactly. But "in their mind they think they are". Thus - they become delusional to their true self - yet the others do see them for who you really are. It's what it means to ignore your personal demons (your dark nature) - and force others to deal with them. And then... they wonder why people don't like them - when they're such "charismatic people".

Personally, I'd rather say nothing about myself - and let others judge me as they see fit. I know who i am - same as i know that this is what one would call "shadow work". This place (this forum at least: Sweet Peas In The Rain) - is like darkness hiding under light... there's a sense of false pretense. Like.. let's force positive vibes and light - when the souls of those around are so troubled. You can't bring spring with a rose... all you can do is - light a fire - and find a cosy place (like this topic) - while hopping for the light it bring to keep away the bad vibes. But that won't last - when that place is rules by darkness that act like a black hole.

Playing with darkness can go both ways - either up if you manage to face it or down like a downward spiral... and - you can loose yourself in the process - still thinking that you're moving forward (up) - even if you're falling. And sometimes... we just have to face reality - not everybody's good and getting better. Though - now we're in a delusional place - and we can play pretend. Kinda like having cancer and ignore its evolution - cause hey: even cancer should have the right to grow! Healthy cells will always fight it... but let's face it (again) - there are many cases where Cancer does win. Thus... the salvation from pain is darker then night - it's Death itself. And death is fair... it doesn't care about status, age, religion, race or whatever... we're all equal in death. All of us 10/10 - no exception. Usually... the ones left behind - find it unfair - cause it took from them a part to which their ego was attached. But... this is another discussion - for another topic...

posted May 28, 2014 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Oh Good God, your lack of logic is starting to kill my brain cells.. I would be better off sniffing paint fumes then arguing with you. My post was in response to her implication that MRAs/PUAs influenced his decison to murder people because they are hateful movements. From where I'm standing the guy chose his own course of action... Nobody forced him to go kill people, he decided to do that on his own. She also implied that feminists are not a hateful group because they dont kill people. Which is absurd... Anyone with half a brain can just look at the internet to see how hateful feminists are... And I shared a perfect example of how low and slimy they can be and ya'll are trying to call me a liar. Feminists calling MRAs a hate group is like the teapot calling the kettle black...

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I would be better off sniffing paint fumes then arguing with you.

I'm sure the lot of LL feels the same exact way about you

I like how you can't even disagree with someone without name calling and being petty.

You have fun with that

And I shared a perfect example of how low and slimy they can be and ya'll are trying to call me a liar.

posted May 28, 2014 03:58 PM            

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I am under no obligation to prove anything to you or anyone for that matter. So i'm a liar because I refuse to show a link that provides all of my friends personal im

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posted May 28, 2014 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
The fact of the matter is my dad was very sexually and romantically successful. He has slept with countless women and has been married twice (he is now in his second marriage) and has two kids to his name (my brother and I).

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See how your success-o-meter is broken? If a woman sleeps with countless men, you think sl*t shaming them is fine.

posted May 28, 2014 04:09 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
7thGuardian,
I just find it funny that you went to all the trouble of dragging up an old thread that isn't even relevant to the discussion at hand to try and smear me and make me look bad. That just proves to me how petty and small you are.. And the fact that you are so obsessed with me that you regularly make posts that are ridiculously long in an attempt to assassinate my character is really disturbing. If you were really a positive person you wouldn't be so committed to trolling me and trying to start arguments. Oh and when I react to anything you say I'm obviously crazy because I refuse to stand down to your BS.

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Just think of it as you are a super star and you have fans. That reminds me of a song.

PS Aren't I obnoxious

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posted May 28, 2014 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

PS Aren't I obnoxious

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Yes.