posted May 26, 2014 10:08 PM            

While a bit snarky it does link to real news stories and articles.

posted May 26, 2014 10:08 PM            

Then we got to a very hard core scene...can't describe it on LL as I think even Kero would've hesitated before sharing it, it was that bad. We stopped laughing, became serious, and had an immediate discussion on setting limits with boys.

Though it should also be noted that many females fall into the same line of thought. I lost count on how many females (more than males actually) told me guys go crazy without sex and the solution to every guy problem was have sex with him (whether he needs more self-esteem or needs to get off his high horse, whether he's depressed or not taking life seriously enough, have sex with him, and frankly it could be summed up as "whatever the problem have sex with him"), though I learned not to listen to that after awhile. Some women's magazines seem to promote that line of thought, too.

posted May 26, 2014 10:21 PM            

While I was out returning from shopping (on foot and by bus) 2 men, I'd guess about 20 and dressed in a certain casual way that I associate with those going to a nearby college, looked me over as I passed them (going opposite directions) and one said casually, "You just scream 'rape me.'" Though the one who said it had an edge to his voice that made me think he was amused (couldn't tell if it was troll amused or cruel amusement but it sounded mean rather than thoughtlessly immature) neither one laughed. And neither showed any sign of intoxication (though I only gave them an "instant analysis" as I hurried to put distance between us).

I wore casual clothes that included cargo pants (for the pockets which had stuff in them) and loose tie-dye shirt that covered over half my arms in addition to fully covering my breasts and covering most of my butt. I had my hair in a ponytail just to keep it out of my eyes (wondering if I should get another pixie cut). And I wore a backpack to carry things back home with. I don't think I could be mistaken for homeless and I'm not unique dressing this way. (Naturally I'm explaining this to immediately get past the asinine assumption I was wearing a miniskirt with my boobs hanging out, and the even more asinine assumption that would mean those guys should talk to me that way then, maybe they should for my not wearing a burka, too! Funny how nudist beaches aren't plagued by this.)

Part of me wishes I'd asked him what he meant (it was a public place in broad daylight after all...). Still, I doubt he'd have told me even if he knew. Maybe he has something like coprolalia that just makes him say inappropriate things. Heck, it could've even been a thoughtless joke from one who has no idea what he was cracking jokes of. One rape victim I know of had to have corrective surgery, including seeing her dentist as the guy who raped her knocked some of her teeth out, and he quipped upon one of her return visits, "Been raped again lately?" He seemed (so she told me) genuinely confused and disturbed how everyone (including his own assistant) reacted and that she left to find a new dentist, him insisting it was just a joke and no need to take it so seriously, women are so sensitive. Maybe the guy who said I was silently screaming to be raped had a similar clueless sense of humor and meant no harm. His "amused edge" sounded mean to me but maybe I misread him.

OTOH, suppose it was just as well. Being the USA he might've tried stabbing or shooting me had I asked (people get shot for telling people to pick up after their dog, after all, heck, for not putting in enough condiments at fast food takeout!). Or worse. I've asked a few who I thought might have insight into his mind but no one knows.

posted May 26, 2014 10:33 PM            

The guy who recently sexually harassed me can do so because men want to f@@k?

posted May 26, 2014 10:38 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
No, I'm not talking about a man whom you love and are commitmented to; but this modern and very insane idea that women owe sex to any man that she is friends with or he did a favor for. This isn't a "old traditional Western value" they like to naively proclaim, but just made by socially-crippled painfully whiny men with extreme mental issues and no charm or grace.

So where did this come from? Birthed from the mental ill internet warriors who are shunned by everybody? Roosh V comes to mind, the spiritually empty man whose only facets can offer is being a sad braggart of sexual prowess.

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KQ, great topic! The internet culture definitely plays a part. It does tie into patriarchal values of society, especially when male status is threatened. Turning women into sexual objects is the easiest way to limit her value and consequently roles in society. Media plays a big part too-both male and female roles are impacted.

posted May 26, 2014 10:50 PM            

Laugh for the day

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posted May 26, 2014 10:52 PM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
So the guy that just sexually harassed my cousin is allowed to do so because of biology? She said no and he forced himself on her. Not getting laid isn't an excuse to be an a@@hole.

The guy who recently sexually harassed me can do so because men want to f@@k?

Jesus.

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posted May 26, 2014 10:56 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
http://whenwomenrefuse.tumblr.com

'Stories of violence inflicted on women who reject sexual advances'

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posted May 26, 2014 10:57 PM            

They are baiting you, dear one

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posted May 26, 2014 11:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]I never said that or implied it

They are baiting you, dear one

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Didn't realize giving our opinions was baiting. You realize comments like this only fuel the fire? Remember as a moderator you need to moderate, not play favorites at your convenience.

posted May 26, 2014 11:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]asexual emotional tampon

Laugh for the day

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posted May 26, 2014 11:08 PM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Didn't realize giving our opinions was baiting. You realize comments like this only fuel the fire? Remember as a moderator you need to moderate, not play favorites at your convenience.

The both of us interpreted what AG said in that way. It happens- people read and evaluate things differently.

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posted May 26, 2014 11:09 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
One thing that has teased my mind...

While I was out returning from shopping (on foot and by bus) 2 men, I'd guess about 20 and dressed in a certain casual way that I associate with those going to a nearby college, looked me over as I passed them (going opposite directions) and one said casually, "You just scream 'rape me.'" Though the one who said it had an edge to his voice that made me think he was amused (couldn't tell if it was troll amused or cruel amusement but it sounded mean rather than thoughtlessly immature) neither one laughed. And neither showed any sign of intoxication (though I only gave them an "instant analysis" as I hurried to put distance between us).

I wore casual clothes that included cargo pants (for the pockets which had stuff in them) and loose tie-dye shirt that covered over half my arms in addition to fully covering my breasts and covering most of my butt. I had my hair in a ponytail just to keep it out of my eyes (wondering if I should get another pixie cut). And I wore a backpack to carry things back home with. I don't think I could be mistaken for homeless and I'm not unique dressing this way. (Naturally I'm explaining this to immediately get past the asinine assumption I was wearing a miniskirt with my boobs hanging out, and the even more asinine assumption that would mean those guys should talk to me that way then, maybe they should for my not wearing a burka, too! Funny how nudist beaches aren't plagued by this.)

Part of me wishes I'd asked him what he meant (it was a public place in broad daylight after all...). Still, I doubt he'd have told me even if he knew. Maybe he has something like coprolalia that just makes him say inappropriate things. Heck, it could've even been a thoughtless joke from one who has no idea what he was cracking jokes of. One rape victim I know of had to have corrective surgery, including seeing her dentist as the guy who raped her knocked some of her teeth out, and he quipped upon one of her return visits, "Been raped again lately?" He seemed (so she told me) genuinely confused and disturbed how everyone (including his own assistant) reacted and that she left to find a new dentist, him insisting it was just a joke and no need to take it so seriously, women are so sensitive. Maybe the guy who said I was silently screaming to be raped had a similar clueless sense of humor and meant no harm. His "amused edge" sounded mean to me but maybe I misread him.

OTOH, suppose it was just as well. Being the USA he might've tried stabbing or shooting me had I asked (people get shot for telling people to pick up after their dog, after all, heck, for not putting in enough condiments at fast food takeout!). Or worse. I've asked a few who I thought might have insight into his mind but no one knows.

My Scorpio Jupiter would like to know.

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posted May 26, 2014 11:18 PM            

These women who complain about woman not having rights in the US and all this cooked up crock really get me angry

Go to the countries where they genitally mutilate women and show how brave you are. THEN, I would have respect for you.

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posted May 26, 2014 11:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Honestly AG

These women who complain about woman not having rights in the US and all this cooked up crock really get me angry

Go to the countries where they genitally mutilate women and show how brave you are. THEN, I would have respect for you.

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Disgusting.

So women who are raped are not worthy of your respect, nor people who are sexually assaulted, physically abused, shot and killed b/c some man was mentally disturbed.

I can't believe I am saying this on an Internet forum but you know the guy who threatened to rape me? I said no. You know what happened? I was physically beaten to a pulp- blood and bruises. I still have nightmares about this.

But according to you I am not brave because my genitals haven't been mutilated. I'm very lucky to make it out of that situation-not everyone does. Marginalizing women's feelings only perpetuates this cycle.

posted May 26, 2014 11:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Honestly AG

These women who complain about woman not having rights in the US and all this cooked up crock really get me angry

Go to the countries where they genitally mutilate women and show how brave you are. THEN, I would have respect for you.

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What does this even mean??? Are you wishing ill on the women of this forum for wanting to be treated as equals by men and not just a hole to be poked on? Because our genitals are not mutilated in this country it's ok for men to treat us as objects? I don't follow your "logic".

posted May 26, 2014 11:30 PM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Disgusting.

So women who are raped are not worthy of your respect, people who are sexually assaulted, physically abused, shot and killed b/c some man was mentally disturbed.

I can't believe I am saying this on an Internet forum but you know the guy who threatened to rape me? I said no. You know what happened? I was physically beaten to a pulp- blood and bruises. I still have nightmares about this.

But according to you I am not brave because my genitals haven't been mutilated. Marginalizing women's feelings only perpetuates this cycle.

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posted May 26, 2014 11:33 PM            

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Originally posted by mercuranian:
I too was in an attempted rape situation with a gun pointed to my throat. I said "not gonna happen, you'll have to kill me first."
Well I managed to get away without being raped but not before being choked and beaten black and blue.

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posted May 26, 2014 11:34 PM            

I am saying that I am sick of all this petty complaining about women's rights/ discrimination when you live in a country where there is none to little. Grow up and visit a country where there is real discrimination!

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posted May 26, 2014 11:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
No one is saying rape is OK. No one is saying rape is not a terrible crime. Did I say that? Show me where I did? Show me where AG did? Don't put words in my mouth or his.

I am saying that I am sick of all this petty complaining about women's rights/ discrimination when you live in a country where there is none to little. Grow up and visit a country where there is real discrimination!

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