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Ami Anne
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posted December 28, 2014 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stay out of it, please. It does not concern you.

WHY does it not concern her?


This one line shows why this Forum does not work.


It is about PERSONALITIES and nor IDEAS.


Every other Forum is about ideas and hence has an ideological structure. This is just Bad Mouth 101 lol

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florence
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posted December 28, 2014 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am going now but I hope this forum does stay for those who genuinely just want to interact with their friends

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PisceanDream
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posted December 28, 2014 04:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because I can say what I want. Being respectful does not work with a breed of people like yourself, as I have been perpetually reminded throughout this thread. She doesn't know the root of my problem with you and she doesn't know a thing about me. And I don't need her to get in the way because I don't want to turn on her for some petty and ignorant reason.

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posted December 28, 2014 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]Stay out of it, please. It does not concern you.

WHY does it not concern her? This one line shows why this Forum does not work.


It is about PERSONALITIES and nor IDEAS.


Every other Forum is about ideas and hence has an ideological structure. This is just Bad Mouth 101 lol

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Thanks ami. I said what I wanted to now so it's all good.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 28, 2014 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Because I can say what I want. Being respectful does not work with a breed of people like yourself, as I have been perpetually reminded throughout this thread. She doesn't know the root of my problem with you and she doesn't know a thing about me. And I don't need her to get in the way because I don't want to turn on her for some petty and ignorant reason.

I don't have a problem with you unless I SEE you being rude to someone and it is not me, usually. Then, I do speak up.

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posted December 28, 2014 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's my take....
Everyone needs to commit to ending this cycle of negativity and drama. I have seen almost everyone in this thread instigating and starting problems in the past. Like just last night I was in T's thread and I thought we were having a good time and she just snapped at me and got hateful out of nowhere and the thread ended up getting closed yet she wants to act as if she is innocent. I'm not just calling her out, I have seen all involved playing the victim when you all have contributed to the drama. EVERYONE involved needs to accept responsibility or this sh*t will never end. All of you are partly responsible for this mess. All of You

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posted December 28, 2014 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
You are very deserving, juni!

Sometimes I don`t know when to shut my mouth and this may be the time. Reading Lindaland reps taking swipes at members is very trying and I`m going to go find some duct tape.

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posted December 28, 2014 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't have a problem with you unless I SEE you being rude to someone and it is not me, usually. Then, I do speak up.


Funny, that is exactly what some of here are doing. Speaking up about rudeness and instigating that's been going on.

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posted December 28, 2014 04:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have many problems with me, your speech is enough to give me that clarification. You don't get to badmouth me and talk down to me then say this. I'm sorry, Ami. You have crossed the line and not once, even from that situation that occurred in SP apologized to me. Despite this, I have dropped it and treated you normally. Until you came to attack me again once I started addressing the rules here. I don't need reassurance that you "have no problems" with me.

I'm a real person. Let's take it to the grave, if we have to. But I'm done setting things aside to be cordial with you. You haven't labelled and addressed anyone here with the same hostility and rudeness as you have with me, and I was the one reasoning most with Randall to fix the problems here.

No more. I don't need anything from you, Ami. I hope you can respect and understand that, you're picking on me because I'm new and I can feel it in my bones.

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posted December 28, 2014 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Here's my take....
Everyone needs to commit to ending this cycle of negativity and drama. I have seen almost everyone in this thread instigating and starting problems in the past. Like just last night I was in T's thread and I thought we were having a good time and she just snapped at me and got hateful out of nowhere and the thread ended up getting closed yet she wants to act as if she is innocent. I'm not just calling her out, I have seen all involved playing the victim when you all have contributed to the drama. EVERYONE involved needs to accept responsibility or this sh*t will never end. All of you are partly responsible for this mess. All of You

AG, you have made that same remark to me before and I took it as you taking a jab at me. How is that not clear? I spoke up for myself because I'm tired of people doing that here. I'm not acting as if I'm innocent!! I was simply telling you to please not take jabs at me if that was what you were doing. I found it unusual for you to say that twice to me or right after something I said. How about you don't try and act innocent. Geez!!!!!

All you said was "Calm down." With a big green smilie. Telling me that you were instigating and enjoying it.

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aquaguy91
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posted December 28, 2014 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T,
I was just being goofy and silly. I thought that was pretty obvious. You just get trigger happy like a Vietnam vet with PTSD

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posted December 28, 2014 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
T,
I was just being goofy and silly. I thought that was pretty obvious. You just get trigger happy like a Vietnam vet with PTSD

Gee, I wonder why?

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PisceanDream
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posted December 28, 2014 05:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Sometimes I don`t know when to shut my mouth and this may be the time. Reading Lindaland reps taking swipes at members is very trying and I`m going to go find some duct tape.


Your attempt, as a mod, to mend the issue is really commendable. You have done enough and have demonstrated time and time again why I (and many others) think you are excellent at what you do. I don't need to interact with you to observe you and your demeanor, juni. Don't worry. You're good, through and through. Thank you, once again. You deserve a nice pina colada, so go get one and relaaaaax.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 28, 2014 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PD

I have NO relationship, so please do not assume otherwise. If I see you being rude to people, I speak up. That is the extent of my relationship with you and conversing on Astrology threads. Please, do not intimate otherwise. Thanks!

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aquaguy91
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posted December 28, 2014 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I laughed it off because I was not going to get sucked into drama. I've gotten to a point where I'm done with that crap and I want happy vibes.

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posted December 28, 2014 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I laughed it off because I was not going to get sucked into drama. I've gotten to a point where I'm done with that crap and I want happy vibes.

So do i and that's why it was annoying, because to me it seemed like you were being a jerk again. If you truly weren't then Sorry, my mistake.

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posted December 28, 2014 05:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't speak up. Please. You mistakenly accuse people and assume mal-intent on their part where there was none. AG never took my remark as insulting just as Randall never found offense in anything I've said this entire thread. In fact, he kept encouraging my contribution because I was being as logical as I can. You perceived an attack where there was none and went for the plunge yourself.

Randall is webmaster, he could have easily warned me if I was "rude" to anyone. Please. Your self-perception, and that of others, is remarkably skewed.

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posted December 28, 2014 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasn't. I was just being silly. I thought it was clear I was being silly because I was being silly throughout the thread.

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posted December 28, 2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is my final point( blame my verbose Gemini)

If someone hates someone, there is NO end to the discussion of it. Some others agree. Some others disagree but there can really be no resolution on an emotion.

If someone thinks one Mod sucks, another person likes that Mod, so that starts a discussion that cannot be resolved because it is based on an emotion.

Hence, this has become the default nature of this Forum imo and why it feels so unpleasant in here lol

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posted December 28, 2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Sure, lets blame the forum. Damn thing has a devil in it and turns people crazy.

Cheap and easy way out.

Thanks PD for the compliment.


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posted December 28, 2014 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is my final point( blame my verbose Gemini)

If someone hates someone, there is NO end to the discussion of it. Some others agree. Some others disagree but there can really be no resolution on an emotion.

If someone thinks one Mod sucks, another person likes that Mod, so that starts a discussion that cannot be resolved because it is based on an emotion.

Hence, this has become the default nature of this Forum imo and why it feels so unpleasant in here lol


No. Not even close. When you jump in threads and instigate, that is where people get upset. It has nothing to do with haters or disliking people, but the behavior people engage in intentionally to rile up and hurt others.

Why do you think I trolled you in the first place? You made many instigative comments towards people in the thread. It doesn't feel good to have a taste of your own medicine, does it?

I would like to have a civil discussion with you. Either on a new thread or email, your choice. I specifically asked you not to talk to me, but since you broke that, I have no choice but to address you.

I have had enough of the way you treat people. I only came back to post here for PD, because she is very upset about the way you talked to her and I will not stand for this.

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posted December 28, 2014 05:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Bella. Truly.

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posted December 28, 2014 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Here's my take....
Everyone needs to commit to ending this cycle of negativity and drama. I have seen almost everyone in this thread instigating and starting problems in the past. Like just last night I was in T's thread and I thought we were having a good time and she just snapped at me and got hateful out of nowhere and the thread ended up getting closed yet she wants to act as if she is innocent. I'm not just calling her out, I have seen all involved playing the victim when you all have contributed to the drama. EVERYONE involved needs to accept responsibility or this sh*t will never end. All of you are partly responsible for this mess. All of You

That. Sometimes I think this forum has become a battlefield over whose hypocrisy gets to reign supreme will be forever going on, saying they want to talk about it but then just lash out, and then say drop it but refusing to drop it (passive aggressive but if that doesn't provoke drama then getting more direct) and acting all innocent when called on it. I know I'm not the only one who think this forum has gone insane and who thinks any sort of rational discussion is impossible with those heavily involved.

After this post I'll be back in February to see if sanity has returned or if it's still the "**** you" forum. If this forum remains poison I'll probably choose LL2 for threads I normally post here since this isn't the H&H thread in actuality anymore.

And AG, I saw that you were just being silly. Didn't think it was funny but I know you meant well.

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posted December 28, 2014 06:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jo B:
Hearth and home (new description)...

"Sit around the battle ground, wrestle on the floor near the hot and searing fires with a battleaxe like Linda used to do, or just swing your sword on the front line...and have a casual fight of complete bloodshed with your Lindaland non-family and close enemies; this is a Forum about destroying."

Sorry couldn't resist.

Think I'll stay at the pub.

On a more constructive note, maybe create a separate section just for fighting, I'm sure people will soon get bored with it.


OMG IM ACTUALLY CRYING.

Wow... Too hilarious. What a wonderful ice-breaker!

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posted December 28, 2014 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That. Sometimes I think this forum has become a battlefield over whose hypocrisy gets to reign supreme will be forever going on, saying they want to talk about it but then just lash out, and then say drop it but refusing to drop it (passive aggressive but if that doesn't provoke drama then getting more direct) and acting all innocent when called on it. I know I'm not the only one who think this forum has gone insane and who thinks any sort of rational discussion is impossible with those heavily involved.

After this post I'll be back in February to see if sanity has returned or if it's still the "**** you" forum. If this forum remains poison I'll probably choose LL2 for threads I normally post here since this isn't the H&H thread in actuality anymore.

And AG, I saw that you were just being silly. Didn't think it was funny but I know you meant well.


Well, now you see why moving to a new forum isn't a good idea. It doesn't matter if it's started with no ill intentions.

I was thinking the same, regarding taking a break. I can't sit here and not defend a friend.

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