posted March 08, 2015 04:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
... And he had gotten off stage, went to the young man with Down syndrome, put his hands on his head and sang a few lines together with him, and then turned to the audience saying that EVERYONE was welcome to his concerts, and if anyone should be bothered by that it was free to them to leave.

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That is so wonderful, Ceri. I can see why you gave in -- just enough!

Funny thing is, I nearly forgot that my Guardian's parents' and mine share the same anniversary. AND, even weirder, his mother and my mother-in-law were born 5 days and 10 years apart.

Our first date also took place on the same day that my parents' did -- which just so happens to be July Fourth. Yet another significant 'thematic' day, when you consider its relationship to Alice. So we met on Dodgson's birthday, and had our first date on the anniversary of the story's conception.

I never quite got why his ALICE and ISIS are 1š conjunct. Well, the river (tributary, technically) of the Thames that flows through Oxford is called The Isis!

posted March 08, 2015 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hahaha it's funny I haven't noticed so far the list has 11 points, not even when Auby mentioned it...this reminds me of our 11th harmonic discussion and everything else relating TFs with number 11.

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posted March 08, 2015 04:25 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think it happens when several people answer at the same time, I noticed that. Great posts, Ceri and Auby, I will discuss those

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posted March 08, 2015 04:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Why is the label so important?

Can`t we just simply compare notes on those connections (relationship or not) that touched our heart the deepest, or impacted our life in a significant way (though that could be in different ways of course)?

Why does it HAVE to be called a twinflame?
It`s just a word after all. (yes words are powerful I know that)

But still so many beautiful heart and soul experiences and we never get to share them cause we debate about definitions and words and names and labels.

Honestly?

I don`t CARE what Mr Sag is (though I am curious. lol I canīt help it, Mercury conjunct Sun, Draco Moon in gemini), but I am still completely amazed at the depth and variety of emotional experiences that have opened up in me, and it still feels like I am just at the beginning.

We might never be in a relationship, and as of now i do not even care for that. That is not for me to know, that is not what my life is about right now.

But still I cherish this sense of WONDER and CAREFREENESS and BECOMING (who I am) and PRESENCE (I never was present in the Here and Now before he sort of "anchored" me) , and most of all I cherish that feeling of a "smiling soul/Heart" that somehow he manages to evoke in me.

THAT is a miracle to me, it feels like it.

And yes of course we tickd all of these boxes on the damned lists. lol But Iwas thinking like Auby, this list can be for soulmates too, maybe even for karmic partners, if they are open enough for the spiritual stuff.

Nevertheless I wanted to say I LOVE that thread, and yet I am treading carefully here, because well I do not want to get all riled up about labelling.

I am just here for the experience I guess.

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Do you think Lee, if they are not in the same place as you in this lifetime to have a healthy relationship right now....perhaps it's preparing you for a reunion in another lifetime?
Honestly, my hope is that I did not find my TF! I hope there are several ppl that could look close by aspects and feelings....but only one that's real.
I'd think a true TF's grow at a similar pace, meaning they would both be in the same emotional space as the other at the same time .
I remember a study done in the late 80's early 90's about identical twins who were separated at birth. There was several cases(6/7 pairs of twins) in the study.
They reunited the twins and in the process find out many of them had nearly identical milestones in their lives. They had started college around the same time, married at the same time, had kids at the same time...another words they matured at the same rate. I'm not saying TF lives will be identical but I'm thinking their maturity would be closely connected or similar.

posted March 08, 2015 04:37 PM            

I also think the real trick may be the direct NODES, and if there's a predominance of SNODE rather than NNODE links. That seems clear then that, not only is our connexion with this soul ending, (and if there are independent features indicating Ascension, we can presume that's why) but we aren't likely to have a significant relationship with them in this lifeline.

And by significant, I mean matching the ideals most have about romance and marriage.

I'll never forget the shot across the bow from my Twin, when he was explaining why he 'isn't into me'. That we hadn't 'even slept together yet, and he already feels as if he's married to me'. I was constantly 'making him question his foundation' and 'whether or not he was really unhappy and in denial about it'. He couldn't take it.

He also returned to school and got his BA, got a job about 6 months later, made friends of his coworkers, started regularly attending the gym and lost the weight he'd gained in his twenties. He's decided he isn't capable of a relationship, and can only do one-night-stands. But the rest is a FAR cry from who he was. Largely, because he'd created an idealised form of himself (in our project) which he suddenly wanted to aspire to.

If only he'd managed that without emotionally slaughtering me. C'est la vie.

posted March 08, 2015 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by magpie:
Auby, you asked for my synastry/composite charts with my twin flame/soulmate/etc, and I posted them on the last page, just in case you missed them

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I saw them, magpie. Thanks.

posted March 08, 2015 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I saw them, magpie. Thanks.

Two questions: how long have you two been together? And, how did you determine it's your Twin?

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posted March 08, 2015 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by magpie:
We've known each other for 3 years and had feelings for each other, but decided we aren't in a good place for a relationship at the moment. I basically knew the second I met him. He looked so familiar, and we seemed to understand and know each other in ways no one else had. We'd catch ourselves doing or thinking the same things at the same time, and could talk for hours without realizing it. It's a gut feeling to some extent I guess.

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posted March 08, 2015 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Honestly, Gabby, you seem a great candidate for a Guardian. I'm still researching / theorising / studying / meditating on this one.

I also think the real trick may be the direct NODES, and if there's a predominance of SNODE rather than NNODE links. That seems clear then that, not only is our connexion with this soul ending, (and if there are independent features indicating Ascension, we can presume that's why) but we aren't likely to have a significant relationship with them in this lifeline.

And by significant, I mean matching the ideals most have about romance and marriage.

I'll never forget the shot across the bow from my Twin, when he was explaining why he 'isn't into me'. That we hadn't 'even slept together yet, and he already feels as if he's married to me'. I was constantly 'making him question his foundation' and 'whether or not he was really unhappy and in denial about it'. He couldn't take it.

He also returned to school and got his BA, got a job about 6 months later, made friends of his coworkers, started regularly attending the gym and lost the weight he'd gained in his twenties. He's decided he isn't capable of a relationship, and can only do one-night-stands. But the rest is a FAR cry from who he was. Largely, because he'd created an idealised form of himself (in our project) which he suddenly wanted to aspire to.

If only he'd managed that without emotionally slaughtering me. C'est la vie.

It would seem though, that I'M absolutely supposed to have a Twin Flame relationship, and the work that I've done since my Twin and I stopped trying to have a relationship, along with the karma my Guardian and I have worked to clear, has made it possible TO have a Twin Flame relationship. With, it would seem, the 'next best thing', which really is indistinguishable from the 'original', in my humble experience.

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Could it be possible that I've finished with my TF? You think? He has Mercury and Venus on my SN. My Juno is on his SN. Maybe we came together just to tie up loose ends.
Now I have someone who is stacking up more n more stuff on my NN....like an absolute shove into my evolution. I do have a direct NN, neither TF or Guardian have have a direct NN....

Funny....my daughter just met a guy. I'm pretty sure he's he's a very important soul in her life, felt it the second I met him. Quite possibly he's a TF. She's only 18!!
His NN is exact on her Moon(libra@23) with his Moon opposed.
They have Mars/Venus conjunct and many of the soulmate pairings, including conjunctions between Isis/Osiris(3.5 degree) Adonis/Astarte(0 degree) Adonis/Ishtar(2 degree) Tara/Shankar(2 degree) Parvarti/Mahakala(3 degree)

My daughter has several conjunction between soulmates in her natal chart as does this boy.

posted March 08, 2015 05:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Could it be possible I've finished with my TF? He has Mercury and Venus on my SN. My Juno is on his SN. Maybe we came together just to tie up loose ends.
Now I have someone who is piling more n more stuff on my NN....like an absolute shove into my evolution. I do have a direct NN, neither TF or Guardian have have a direct NN....

Funny....my daughter just met a guy. I'm pretty sure he's he's a very important soul in her life, felt it the second I met him. Quite possibly he's a TF. She's only 18!!
His NN is exact on her Moon(libra@23) with his Moon opposed.
They have Mars/Venus conjunct and many of the soulmate pairings, including conjunctions between Isis/Osiris(3.5 degree) Adonis/Astarte(0 degree) Adonis/Ishtar(2 degree) Tara/Shankar(2 degree) Parvarti/Mahakala(3 degree)

My daughter has several conjunction between soulmates in her chart as does this boy.

Researching their charts I noticed both have direct NN's
I'm wondering would a true TF have to have a NN going the same direction as their partner? One could not ascend without the other?

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I'm wondering that, too. The kiddo is definitely a Twin Flame candidate herself. Can't say I'm surprised, but still -- wow. REALLY? She's only thirteen!

I do think that it's the completion of a cycle. Oddly enough, most of my soul family are direct NNODES. My Twin, Guardian, husband, and myself. All direct.

It's an intriguing thought, though. I've always wondered: why WOULDN'T we meet our Twin before we're ready to Ascend together?

posted March 08, 2015 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm wondering that, too. The kiddo is definitely a Twin Flame candidate herself. Can't say I'm surprised, but still -- wow. REALLY? She's only thirteen!

I do think that it's the completion of a cycle. Oddly enough, most of my soul family are direct NNODES. My Twin, Guardian, husband, and myself. All direct.

It's an intriguing thought, though. I've always wondered: why WOULDN'T we meet our Twin before we're ready to Ascend together?

In a lot of ways, it reminds me of 'The Adjustment Bureau'. Have you seen it?

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Omg...no she is 18, he's 19!! Lol
I'd die if she was only 13!! Lol
I can't see how they are not TF!
Their composite has...
Jupiter cap@15
Merc cap@22
Moon cap@23
Sun cap@24
Neptune cap@26
Uranus aqua@2
Venus aqua@2

Pluto saggy@3.33
Saturn pisces@26
Mars scorp@29

Most of my family has direct NN also....

posted March 08, 2015 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
As for direct Nodes, are you sure?
Astro.com will show the nodes as direct, even when they aren`t. (You can check and see the column where it lists the speed; if planets or the nodes are retrograde, they will have a minus before the actual speed; only if there is no minus, they are direct in motion).

I am asking cause while there is no R after my Nodes in the chartimage and the table, there is a minus before the number with the motion/ speed, and my nodes are definitely retrograde.

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Where do you find the speeds Ceri?

Found it...
I checked....there is not a minus sign in the speed column of my NN.
Neither on my daughter or the new boyfriend....
On the "Mean Node" there is, for all of us!
I looked at someone without the direct NN and there is a minus sign in front of both the True Node and Mean Node on his.

They do not list the retrograde motion on the NN because it's assumed it's moving rx, because it typically is. It's just like only show the motion of the planets when they are retrograde because they normally are moving direct.

posted March 08, 2015 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
As for direct Nodes, are you sure?
Astro.com will show the nodes as direct, even when they aren`t. (You can check and see the column where it lists the speed; if planets or the nodes are retrograde, they will have a minus before the actual speed; only if there is no minus, they are direct in motion).

I am asking cause while there is no R after my Nodes in the chartimage and the table, there is a minus before the number with the motion/ speed, and my nodes are definitely retrograde.

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I'll be damned!

My Guardian just made it into the Direct camp, as it turned direct on the day. As for my and my Twin? Both Retro. Well, it was stationed on my birthday, at which point it turned direct 5 days later.

posted March 08, 2015 05:45 PM            

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I'll be damned!

My Guardian just made it into the Direct camp, as it turned direct on the day. As for my and my Twin? Both Retro. Well, it was stationed on my birthday, at which point it turned direct 5 days later.

How funny! I felt that, of all of us, it's really my Guardian who's 'leaving'. I'm scheduled for another tour or two. He's served more than enough, though. He deserves to be free to leave the earthly plane after this run.

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posted March 08, 2015 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Well, it was stationed on my birthday, at which point it turned direct 5 days later.

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posted March 08, 2015 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Hey LeeLoo,

what could be a fitting ritual for a Twin Flame marriage, I wonder? How about this one from DS9:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oAlOLZL_2g8

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Ohhh, DS9. It holds a special place in my heart. I agree! This is very befitting.

posted March 08, 2015 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
His natal is direct? I thought your natal was direct?

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posted March 08, 2015 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Turns out, upon checking the speed, it had just gone direct. I was born during the station, and he was born during its direct motion.

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posted March 08, 2015 05:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Hey LeeLoo,

what could be a fitting ritual for a Twin Flame marriage, I wonder? How about this one from DS9:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oAlOLZL_2g8

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OMG, that's Beauty and the Beast, you're making a serious confusion here between myths. I must ask my Cosmic Guardian sisters here to invoke a reunion and organize a session to "baptize" you into the concept You are seriously misguided by the many flames on the set and the bad lighting, although I must confess I liked how they connected their tinfoil twinflames hahahahaha

Oh, gosh, I hope my twinflame is at least beautiful...you are raising a serious metaphysical question here...we are stuck with our TF! What if he is Klingonian like? And I was about to go to sleep...

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

posted March 08, 2015 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
So they became direct through progression when you were 5 years old? Did something significant happen?

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Okay, if the minutes matter here, then it's closer to 4.5. And yes, when I was around that age, I had to have two major surgeries; without them, I would've had severe respiratory issues. As such, I had tubes in my ears, and my tonsils and adenoids removed.

Interesting enough, my Twin does have major issues with his tonsils; he claims it would've been low level and chronic if he'd had the procedure I did. ... I guess? It really wasn't optional, though, in my case.