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LeeLoo2014
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posted March 08, 2015 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Women’s Day everyone!

Under the burning gentle yet devastating fire of Sun conjunct Chiron in ultimate Pisces shedding light on our deepest wound and longing, I am starting a collection of Twinflame signs, stories and astrology.

It is a gift to you, to remember not to be afraid of perfection and an ideal. We are experiencing imperfection because, riders of a dream, travelers on a journey spanning through many lifetimes, we seek to constantly recreate ourselves until we become what we are, perfect.

Ladies (ladies first ), you are simply goddesses in the process of becoming what you are, in flesh, on Earth.

Gentlemen, you are our dream and our gods

We all have a Twinflame and we will reunite when ready, not before, not after, just in time.

Until then, we are on this amazing and electrifying journey of self-discovery and self-becoming.

Perhaps you will know some of the signs and stories listed here, but I intend for this collection to be a reminder of this journey for you, but also of its goal.

Even if you are not in a Twinflame relationship and it will take some time before you do, all the signs and stories in these resources are a model, something for you to infuse in all your relationships, something to strive for.

Please share your questions and findings on the Twinflame/Soulmate concept either through your research or real-life stories.

Let’s start with a short and comprehensive list from the web. I am taking this opportunity to express my love and gratitude for the Web, the internet, perhaps the greatest discovery of the 20th century.

I intend to discuss some of the points on this list, from an astrological point of view.

“A twin flame is the other part of you. Some consider it a soul-mate while others say it’s something more. For all of us that think we have found our soul-mate I am going to share some identifying factors. Not all of these need to be true, but if you really have found your twin flame this will make a lot of sense to you.

1. Similarities With Birth Dates – This doesn’t mean that your twin flame was born on exact same day as you were. It means there will be something peculiar about their birthday. It may be the same birthday as a best friend or it may be the birthday of a brother or sister. There will be some kind of connection linked in with birthdays if you look hard enough.

2. The feeling like you already knew this person before you met. This can be kind of eerie sometimes. That feeling like you have already met this person somewhere before. Either in this life, a dream, or somewhere else. You will feel a strong connection with them anytime you think about them or they are in your presence.

3. They seem unreal to you at times. A twin flame may be so shocking for us to discover that they may feel unreal or like you are dreaming. I can assure you they are real and that you are not dreaming. That is just another part of the strange sense toward them we have.

4. They will share some or all of the same views and beliefs you have in life. They will have opinions that are aligned with yours. They will have the same long-term and short-term goals. If their goals are not exactly the same you will see similarities between theirs and yours.

5. If you disagree or fight it will be strong and devastating. This is the part about twin flames I dislike the most. If you are with your twin flame and you do fight. It will be so devastating that it will effect people around you and may even cause extreme pain in you like nothing else. It may feel as though someone has died. Fights with twin souls do happen and when they do they are the worst of anything you have ever experienced.

6. You meeting of this person will have meeting and symbolism. Don’t expect to find them on some dating site by emailing everyone on there. You may find them there, but it won’t be a simple meeting. It will be something you will remember and there will be something about your meeting that will flag a symbolism in your life. It could be on a special day or at a special place. It may be neither of the two. It could be that they fall right out of the sky when you least expect it.

7. You background story will contain lots of similarities and coincidences. You might have the exact same background or maybe not. You might just have a friend that is identical or maybe you lived within a certain distance at some point in time. It could be anything, pay close attention to the other person’s life story.

8. You will both complement each others abilities. Twin flames are part of the same soul. In that sense the other person will have the skill sets that you are missing. With both of you combined you become an unstoppable force.

9. You will feel how they feel even when there are great distances between you. You will feel their pain and happiness at all times. Once you tune in you will have that feeling in your gut if something is going very good or if the other person is in pain. This can sometimes be mistaken for other things such as sickness, but once you begin to understand how it works you will know exactly how the other person is feeling.

10. You may have had dreams or visions about this person or how you would meet. Sometimes your mind will perceive things outside of the normal bounds of reality. You may have had a vision of exactly the person you met or you may have had a dream about how you would meet your twin flame.

11. They must feel the exact same way toward you.
Identifying twin flame signs is a great way to get some extra reassurance that the person is your twin flame. There is nothing wrong with reading about it and sharing your story with others. Sometimes is such a shock that someone like this can exist that you can’t believe it at first. Once the newness passes you will become as happy as you ever have been and do all the things in life you have dreamed about."

http://www.danielbranch.com/how-to-identify-a-twin-flame-by-signs-and-similarities/

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posted March 08, 2015 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Women's Day, LeeLoo

This is a great collection of information, thank you for sharing it and starting the topic.

As a newbie in the TwinFlame concept, can I ask a question? I've read a few times already that Twin-Flame relationships are usually characterised with big age-difference, unavailability issues (1 or both TwinFlames already in a relationship) and difficulties in getting together. I'm happy to see you haven't listed these here - does it mean they are not always typical of a TwinFlame relationship? (I really hope they are not!)

Thank you.

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posted March 08, 2015 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, SaturnFan
Not in my views. And not according to the examples I know and the way I understand this concept. I identify HAPPY couples with reunited twinflames. There is a range of TF advocates supporting the theory you describe, to which I don't subscribe; it's a theory mistaking unrequited love scenarios - for various reasons, sometimes clearly monetary in nature - for TF relationships.
Sometimes the age difference exists, in fact, the age doesn't matter, but all the couples I identify as soulmates are a beautiful and compatible pair from the physical point of view also. So most of the time they are within an age range making this possible.
If TFs meet while during another relationship, they will gently and firmly exit it to be together, as soon as possible.

TFs meeting causes a revolution in their lives, which contains in itself both the starting point and the final result of this revolution. There is however an interesting preparation related to that.

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posted March 08, 2015 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are great Leeloo. I identify with all of them. If it's ok, I'd like to add another article that, through my experience, hits the nail on the head regarding TF relationships. I have found almost all of these aspects to be true of a TF relationship:
http://sofiasiberia.com/2013/12/23/twin-flames/

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posted March 08, 2015 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much, Tgem and welcome! Have a lovely Ladies day

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posted March 08, 2015 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you LeeLoo - this makes much more sense than the other views I've read on the subject, which were too fatalistic and one-sided.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
TFs meeting causes a revolution in their lives, which contains in itself both the starting point and the final result of this revolution. There is however an interesting preparation related to that.


If you wouldn't mind, could you say more on the related 'preparation' you mention above, or let me know where to read up on it?

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posted March 08, 2015 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a beautiful post
I have had the suspicion that my Twin Flame is one of my best friends.. If I explained this to her, she would say 'duh.' Everything is exactly as you described.. When we first became friends a few years ago we would have weird moments / loops of just finding each other in each other's eyes.
I can't even begin to do our relationship justice in a forum post so I won't But I really feel from the bottom of my soul that she's my twin flame. So if anyone wants to see our charts together for an example, I am happy to share There are also very eerie similarities in our charts and draconic charts, etc.. Also, our relationship is very difficult.

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posted March 08, 2015 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
These are great Leeloo. I identify with all of them. If it's ok, I'd like to add another article that, through my experience, hits the nail on the head regarding TF relationships. I have found almost all of these aspects to be true of a TF relationship:
http://sofiasiberia.com/2013/12/23/twin-flames/

Wow! Really cool article.. Every single thing is so on point. I didn't know other people went through this, I thought we were just a really dramatic pair.

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posted March 08, 2015 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had to post a reply here because my pianist Mr. Scorp gave a recital, four years ago exactly, for Women's Day. He played Chopin's Ballade Op. 23 n°1 and Liszt's Vallée d'Obermann. Such a beautiful program !

Lee, that's a great list ! I know by now and with Auby's help that Mr. Scorp and I are not Twins, but Karmic Soulmates instead, who lived a beautiful love story in a previous life. Still, there are little, special things, details, about our charts (especially SUN/MOON), that do resonate a little with the 'other half' and 'yin/yang, becoming one' concept of Twin Flames.

My Sun in the 2nd house
His Moon in the 2nd house (in Leo)

His Sun in the 5th house
My Moon in the 5th house

Exactly opposite and contra-parallel Moons. Exact composite stellium of Sun, Moon and North Node, conjunct Davison South Node, still exact. (Don't ask me what the NN/SN thing means.)
Our birthdays are 10 days apart, same month, and his falls the day my name is celebrated in the Christian calendar. Same views, opinions and way of thinking, with the only exception being astrology and spiritual matters (but he might change, too !). Before we met, I used to dream about a man having his personality, and from what I've gathered, we do share a lot of similarities in our lives. But on the other hand, it's unrequited, he's homosexual, and it doesn't seem that 'unreal' to me.

So, anyway... Happy Women's Day everyone !

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posted March 08, 2015 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SaturnFan:
Thank you LeeLoo - this makes much more sense than the other views I've read on the subject, which were too fatalistic and one-sided.

If you wouldn't mind, could you say more on the related 'preparation' you mention above, or let me know where to read up on it?


Absolutely! there is so much to be said about the preparation....I will be thinking about how to start an exchange of opinions about this...I've had a heated conversation on another part of the forum and I need a break now, I will soon be back to answer all the posts

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posted March 08, 2015 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, given #11, most of LL is already disqualified, Lee. Alas. Nice concept, though.

Otherwise, wow do I have some experiences.

Although, you could specify if this is general disinterest from the start, or not. In my case, his interest was vacillated from ambivalent to obsessive. But, in the end, he chose to be abusive and somehow just expected I'd stick around. Non.

So, please specify. I AM a Twin Flame. I'm NOT with my Twin. So what sorts of experiences are you collecting?

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posted March 08, 2015 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Wow! Really cool article.. Every single thing is so on point. I didn't know other people went through this, I thought we were just a really dramatic pair.

You guys do realise that article is indistinguishable from Soulmates, yes?

Further, ALL of these things happen REGARDLESS of whether the other is your Twin, so long as YOU are a Twin Flame.

Sorry. I get annoyed by misinformation AND this 'be-all, end-all' Twin Flame nonsense.

Look. If you're supposed to have a Twin Flame relationship, regardless of whether it's with your Twin, it will happen -- so just don't sweat it.

The basis of your connexion will be unconditional love. It may or may not be romantic, but there will be a sexual pull. Be responsible given the circumstances in which you find yourself, and never betray your own ethics. Ever. It's an automatic 'game over'.

They won't play games, so, don't you.

You will telepathically sense them. They will be in your dreams. These dreams will often be sexual -- even more so changing dramatically and rapidly. You'll feel as if another energy is 'invading', and experience sexual intercourse in a way that the third-dimension does not allow. (It's actually really cool.)

You won't stress over losing the relationship once it begins and is acknowledged by the both of you. There's an innate, bizarre sense of security inherent. Plus, you're both too busy being exceptional people and 'healing the world' in your own individual ways, and together.

Time may stop, slow, or even speed up. Spontaneous astral projection is also possible at the beginning. It's a little crazy.

You will readily (and unconsciously) provide each other an energetic exchange. Some can even transmute negativity that you may be carrying; like a sort of 'filtration' system.

And, most importantly, YOU CAN HAVE A TWIN FLAME RELATIONSHIP WITH ANYONE YOU CHOOSE.

The above elements simply have to be there, starting with love, respect, and emotional maturity.

IF THEY AREN'T PRESENT, YOU DON'T HAVE A TWIN FLAME RELATIONSHIP. PERIOD.

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posted March 08, 2015 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for magpie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My twin flame has the same birthday as my mother. Not the same year, though. Definitely feeling the other ones, too. Thanks for the info

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posted March 08, 2015 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Similarities With Birth Dates

Nope.


2. The feeling like you already knew this person before you met.

ABSOLUTELY. 'He' started making his presence known to me at age 19. He had an instantaneous feeling of recognition, and an overwhelming desire to know me immediately after we met. (He's told me this.)

3. They seem unreal to you at times.

All of the time. Sometimes daily for weeks. I spent much of January actually marvelling over his existence. Really. I STILL can't entirely believe it, but I've learnt to trust the system.

4. They will share some or all of the same views and beliefs you have in life.

Ohhhh, yes. Even the deepest, most intricate view of reality. We've each taught each other some fascinating nuances, too.

5. If you disagree or fight it will be strong and devastating.

Nope. We treat each other with respect and dignity. Even when we argue, we do so with the undercurrent of love we share. Harsh words may be spoken, but far more often they are presented with patience and a rational understanding. The one time our relationship ended in the beginning stages, it WAS devastating for us both. Somehow, even THEN we treated each other with respect and love.

6. Your meeting of this person will have meeting and symbolism.

Oh, God, entirely. We met on a day that's SO central to the 'theme' of our relationship, you could swear it was planned. And we both almost didn't go, but decided to suddenly at the last moment. And when we met, it was as if everything around me suddenly went still; like what was happening, COULDN'T be happening. And then he spoke. I just about fainted. I've never been that lightheaded before. It was all I could do to maintain my composure and actually MEET him. Thank God I did.

7. Your background story will contain lots of similarities and coincidences.

We're from the same city, even though we met where we both live now. He (rather, his family, as he was 13) moved the month of my birth, two weeks before I was born. If that's not weird.

(Awww. 'Our song' just began playing ... Anyway ... )

Our backgrounds oddly complement one another; both creative professionals and writers with backgrounds in law enforcement -- his, military, mine, federal. I was trained to understand guys like him. He was trained to befuddle folks like me. Damned good thing we're on the same side!

8. You will both complement each others abilities.

See #7. I once said, 'you were born for this part,' he replied, 'I was destined to have you direct me.' As such, we met through my casting him for a role, and I've indeed both performed with and directed him many times since. We have incredible on-screen chemistry. (And chemistry in general!) And, as stated above, our law enforcement background is surprisingly complementary. He's a structural genius when it comes to dramatic writing, and I've got a knack for dialogue. We both write fantastic characters. We also tend to play opposite each other. Recently, I discovered our vocal ranges are exactly mirrored across the staff: I'm a coloratura soprano, with a range of F3 to C7; he's basso profundo, with a range of C1 to F4. (We'll get him to F5. Maybe. But I'm not climbing above C7!) So our voices naturally complement one another.

9. You will feel how they feel even when there are great distances between you.

He doesn't 'emote' much in any respect, so this one, I'd say, is 'in progress'.

10. You may have had dreams or visions about this person or how you would meet.

I wrote an entire series, starting in 2000, based in dreams and spontaneous regressions. So, yes, I'd say so!

11. They must feel the exact same way toward you.

While I don't entirely agree that the above MUST be true, (as in the case with the 'Original' Twin Flame) in my case, it's been both true and false. I've learnt to adhere to it 'MUST' be true, otherwise, you're barking up the wrong tree. CAN be your Twin, but you're NOT going to have a Twin Flame relationship.

Confusing, yes. I apologise. The whole thing is a bit bewildering, but an incredible adventure all the same.

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posted March 08, 2015 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why is the label so important?

Can`t we just simply compare notes on those connections (relationship or not) that touched our heart the deepest, or impacted our life in a significant way (though that could be in different ways of course)?

Why does it HAVE to be called a twinflame?
It`s just a word after all. (yes words are powerful I know that)

But still so many beautiful heart and soul experiences and we never get to share them cause we debate about definitions and words and names and labels.


Honestly?

I don`t CARE what Mr Sag is (though I am curious. lol I can´t help it, Mercury conjunct Sun, Draco Moon in gemini), but I am still completely amazed at the depth and variety of emotional experiences that have opened up in me, and it still feels like I am just at the beginning.

We might never be in a relationship, and as of now i do not even care for that. That is not for me to know, that is not what my life is about right now.

But still I cherish this sense of WONDER and CAREFREENESS and BECOMING (who I am) and PRESENCE (I never was present in the Here and Now before he sort of "anchored" me) , and most of all I cherish that feeling of a "smiling soul/Heart" that somehow he manages to evoke in me.

THAT is a miracle to me, it feels like it.

And yes of course we tickd all of these boxes on the damned lists. lol But Iwas thinking like Auby, this list can be for soulmates too, maybe even for karmic partners, if they are open enough for the spiritual stuff.

Nevertheless I wanted to say I LOVE that thread, and yet I am treading carefully here, because well I do not want to get all riled up about labelling.

I am just here for the experience I guess.

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posted March 08, 2015 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Auby. We both have known for quite some time our concepts on Twinflames are different, please don't call my different-than-yours opinion "misinformation".

I think it's much better to bring the different concepts to the table as two alternatives, I always welcome your input.

Yes, according to the myth and the way I embrace it, the TF concept is all-encompassing, final love: be-all, end-all.

In this respect, I disagree we can have a Twinflame relationship with anyone else but our Twinflame, but we can have all-encompassing love with many people, many souls.

If people can't find themselves in no. 11, then they don't have a Twinflame relationship. In fact, MUTUALITY of feelings and interest is a prerequisite of any healthy relationship of all kinds, it is quite obvious it would be a must and totally enhanced in a higher love relationship such as TF relationships.

I've never quite understood what you meant by "being a Twinflame", you may as well be, it's just that I don't understand what this means, since to me being a Twinflame means being during the incarnation when you will meet, reunite and live with your Twinflame. This incarnation is a peak one. Being born a Twinflame but not meeting your TF or living with them sounds like a total absurdity to me, it defies the purpose of the entire concept, but I am willing to understand this theory, perhaps I am grasping it wrongly.

I want to remind everyone the concept of TF approached by this thread is that of your ultimate romantic/love partner. This is the Twinflame. Apart from this person, we meet and love other soulmates from our soul group, romantically, in friendship, as family members or otherwise, and we may have incredible soul connections with them, some of them with similar effects (at least partially), and I will share some of these stories, personal examples included.

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posted March 08, 2015 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Why is the label so important?

Can`t we just simply compare notes on those connections (relationship or not) that touched our heart the deepest, or impacted our life in a significant way (though that could be in different ways of course)?

Why does it HAVE to be called a twinflame?
It`s just a word after all. (yes words are powerful I know that)

But still so many beautiful heart and soul experiences and we never get to share them cause we debate about definitions and words and names and labels.

Honestly?

I don`t CARE what Mr Sag is (though I am curious. lol I can´t help it, Mercury conjunct Sun, Draco Moon in gemini), but I am still completely amazed at the depth and variety of emotional experiences that have opened up in me, and it still feels like I am just at the beginning.

We might never be in a relationship, and as of now i do not even care for that. That is not for me to know, that is not what my life is about right now.

But still I cherish this sense of WONDER and CAREFREENESS and BECOMING (who I am) and PRESENCE (I never was present in the Here and Now before he sort of "anchored" me) , and most of all I cherish that feeling of a "smiling soul/Heart" that somehow he manages to evoke in me.

THAT is a miracle to me, it feels like it.

And yes of course we tickd all of these boxes on the damned lists. lol But Iwas thinking like Auby, this list can be for soulmates too, maybe even for karmic partners, if they are open enough for the spiritual stuff.

Nevertheless I wanted to say I LOVE that thread, and yet I am treading carefully here, because well I do not want to get all riled up about labelling.

I am just here for the experience I guess.


:: APPLAUSE ::

YES! A thousand times, YES! THAT is what I'm talkin' about, sister!

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posted March 08, 2015 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy women´s day!

Dedicated to those in a beautiful relationship.

Source: http://www.newageofactivism.com/2012/01/what-is-twin-flame-what-is-soulmate.html

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posted March 08, 2015 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for magpie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Can you post your synastry and composite? I'm always curious regarding the different types of synastries and composites that are possible. And, when did iQ tell you? I've learnt so much in such a short while from him.

Sure thing - Synastry (he's on the outside):

Composite:

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posted March 08, 2015 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Gremlin is here ugh I was saying, in short: let's get inspired by the TF concept, stories, and reunions in all our relationships and love experiences, no matter how they are!

And thanking GK for the beautiful collision and words

Gremlin, die!


EDIT: I recovered my post, I copy it without knowing lol it was:

"Ceri, I agree, in the sense that I don't want the use of a label and an ideal to minimize other love experiences, this is always the danger with this and people have already complained about it. On the other hand, I don't want for us to feel restricted from discussing an ideal concept. Personally, I believe it inspires people. It most certainly inspires me. It is true however, and I don't include you here, you know that, some people get depressed about a perfect model, they say: what do I care? god knows when I'll be with my TF, I stick to my smelly husband or my unrequited love. I don't know what to do about that, to me models are an inspiration and I believe whatever relationship you have, this kind of inspiration can make it better.

It's not about exclusion, not the way I see it, on the contrary, it's about including that intensity and inspiration in your everyday life and relationships in general. And thank you for liking the thread "

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posted March 08, 2015 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just because I love those freaking lists!

1. Similarities With Birth Dates
he was born one day after me.
His lifepath is a 3, mine is 33.
I was born on the last day of OSIRIS, he was born on the first day of ISIS.
(while his Isis is just quinkunx my Isis-Osiris-conjunction, his Draco ISIS exactly conjuncts my tropical Isis and Osiris)


2. The feeling like you already knew this person before you met.

Yes. I have been searching someone in my dreams from childhood on, I remember that tower where I was convinced he would be or had been.
It is almost eery but just a few weeks ago I found out that this tower is placed near his birthplace.
So maybe it was not even a real dream, maybe it was some sort of memory actually, maybe I did meet him somewhere there when we were kids (I was spending some time in his birthtown when we were kids).
But I cannot remember.

Meeting him took me by surprise,t he familiarity was so unreal. I mean really. Like meeting a distant cousin or family member that you used to know, but have not seen for a while and sort of forgot about them, and then when you meet up again, it`s just like you have never been apart. Like you were always in each other`s life.
Everything about him is so familiar to me, that even my defense mechanism system fails when he is close. HE is the only one who can sneak up on me (which he seems to do a lot actually) lol and my defense system will just stay silent, it is like my soul or mind or whatever does not even consider him a different energy-system. It is difficult to explain.
I remember one time, the first time he showed up and kneeling beside me, he was so close that I could definitely feel our auric fields mesh, and it was so sureal, cause I could not even say where I ended and he began!
I suppose he must have sensed a little bit of that as well, cause even when he had been walking on, he turned around two times more giving me a very puzzled look. lol

". They seem unreal to you at times."
No. That is actually what got me about him. He feels so REAL. Everything until that point felt like an option, a possibility, a could-be-or-not, transcendental and surreal (I was living very much in my Neptunianness then), but he stepped into my life and he was REAL. Actually that was a pretty unreal experience, this realness. lol


4. They will share some or all of the same views and beliefs you have in life.

Funny enough I could have stayed away. I DID stay away for 2 years.
And then I was reading about something he did on a concert, where other audience has complained about a young man with Down syndrome singing along too loudly, and they apparently suggested that young man should leave the room. as another visitor told. And he had gotten off stage, went to the young man with Down syndrome, put his hands on his head and sang a few lines together with him, and then turned to the audience saying that EVERYONE was welcome to his concerts, and if anyone should be bothered by that it was free to them to leave.

Of course that had to touch my heart, well my brother has the Down syndrome. though he would never sing along. lol

But that gesture it touched my heart. And yes of course that is totally in tune with my own values.

6. Your meeting of this person will have meeting and symbolism.

WE always meet on days that fall into the sequence of 3-6-9 as it seems.

And wlel to be honest you can give meaning to any meeting, depends on the personal perspective.

Funny though our first meeting (when we talked) took place just 2 days before my parent`s wedding day. lol
And even funnier a few years later, in my hiatus as I was being paranoid again and keeping myself at a distance and so on, he was publishing that song that would lure me back, on THAT day. a coincidence probably, but it just registered with me, that he was putting it out there online on the day exactly 4 years later (and a few months after the last time we had met, after which I disapeared - again. Bad habit of mine I suppose. lol)

7. Your background story will contain lots of similarities and coincidences.

He lived (and lives) in the city neighbouring the one my great grandmother lived, and we visited her regularly. It always bring those memories of happy childhood days up again, and the feeling of being safe and at home.


Funny though, while he is a performer and I am a teacher, for the last years he started to teach a lot of workshops, especially with the pupil-group that i am actually teaching in my working life (though diff. city of course).

And I sort of have been pushed into a more theatrical direction at my school.

9. You will feel how they feel even when there are great distances between you.

It kinda amazes me, but sometimes I feel "sick" without really being sick, a phantom sickness. So far everytime I felt this it turned out later on that he was actually having a cold or whatever I "sensed".

10. You may have had dreams or visions about this person or how you would meet.

Yes, just the month before I met him I would suddenly sense some sort of energy around me "a smiling energy", very dynamic, very sunlike, and it drove me insane. It was like I almost could "touch" the recognition, but just almost.

And then a series of dreams started taking place in Glastonbury, and this young man had the main role in them (funny enough a friend told me independently that she was having a vision about me and some guy, and she was teling me my dream, just from an outsider`s perspective).


Anyway, that was not even 2 weeks before we first crossed paths. lol
Of course on the 3rd june 2006 (had to be from the 3-6-9 sequence. lol)
But we just saw each other then, and then there would be a lot time until we actually met.

11. They must feel the exact same way toward you.

Who knows?

Nah seriously I think he is intrigued by me, sometimes action speak louder than words.

As for feeling the exact same way, no person ever feels exactly the same as the other. That is not possible. Unless you ARE the same person, with the same mental and emotional make up, the same individual so to speak.

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I think by "feeling the same way' he was trying to say "they love you too and want the same thing, to be with you" at least that's the way I see it.

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Hahaha it's funny I haven't noticed so far the list has 11 points, not even when Auby mentioned it...this reminds me of our 11th harmonic discussion and everything else relating TFs with number 11.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, Auby. We both have known for quite some time our concepts on Twinflames are different, please don't call my different-than-yours opinion "misinformation".

I'm referring specifically to the website. SO much of that can be present in Soulmate relationships. They don't seem to be taking that into account, from what I've read.

YOUR view that you won't meet until you're ready is ... intriguing. I think it's a bit more complex than that, which my own experience seems to be indicating. Rather, you won't have a Twin Flame relationship UNTIL you're ready -- THAT I believe wholeheartedly. I think you can meet. But it's just not going to happen until you're ready. And then it'll happen WITH YOU. It doesn't even have to include your Twin, per se.

This doesn't make them 'fake' or false. Think of it as frequency and resonance. Perhaps, the only way I could come to create a legitimate Twin Flame story is BY creating it WITH my Twin.

But what if I zigged and he zagged?

What if my coming to Los Angeles put me on the path to meeting, loving, and healing the karma I have with my Guardian, with whom I can still have a Twin Flame relationship? It's hardly less valid. What if, what I've been trying to do, is realise an eigenstate on a timeline that can't support it? Simply put, what if my trying to love the man whose soul was 'earmarked' to be my Twin Flame, is inefficient here? What if NOW, given the choices we've made, he's on to an entirely different path? One, on which I'm likely to gain greater significance again later, but very unlikely in a romantic context, but professional and creative?

Free will. It's legit.

As such, I've totally not been left high and dry. Far, far from. I always felt as if my soul was 'split' between these two roads: one which led to my original Twin, and the other which led to my Guardian, with whom I'm now having a Twin Flame relationship, and iQ has suggested, has thereby become my Twin. BECAUSE of these things.

Reality is far more malleable than we give ourselves credit for. Why on earth couldn't one Twin Flame love so hard, and so completely, even being willing to let go of the one for whom they're 'destined' in all time and all space, because they ultimately want them to be happiest?

Isn't that kind of the WHOLE bloody point? To learn to love so completely that you can forgive and rise above human failings? (Or at least some of them.)

The class of individual with which I've found myself surrounded since 2012 is remarkable. And I do count you guys in that number.

So, I zagged. It's okay. I learnt the bigger lessons, and I'm happiest teaching love and forgiveness rather than holding grudges, fuelling negativity, and taking abuse.

I guess Twin Flames 'can go bad', based upon the decisions we make. Perhaps my insistence on developing Guardian Soul theory was my means of trying to understand the bizarre thing that was happening, which went against ALL conventional wisdom on the subject.

Maybe I wanted to help the disenfranchised Twins among us, and couldn't buy into the concept of completely invalidating the beautiful, profound experience one's had with their Twin before things changed. Who knew who made the initial choice? Who knew if it was done out of duty or emotion?

I had exceptional experiences with my Twin, when he was my Twin. I'm on a whole new path now, in a different eigenstate.

I've been having an odd, recurrent dream, since early January. Undergoing surgery in some entirely different dimension. The doctor has been 'removing' things from me. Oddly enough, I've come to realise these are all aligned with chakra locations. Sacral and heart.

Just last night, I underwent what the doctor said was the last one. It was curiously not painful; I was frightened, but I had no need to fear the pain. Despite the strange machine literally stapling or sewing or lasering or whatever it was doing, to my forehead, it was without pain.

When I was done, I had a little scar right over my third eye. I touched it with my fingers, and felt it was sore, but he said, 'it's going to heal perfectly. You won't even notice it.'

I suddenly said, 'Wait, why am I alone?'

He said, 'Oh, you're not. They're waiting for you. I'll bring them in.'

My husband and boyfriend came in with my stepdaughter. My parents were standing directly behind them. My Guardian leant in and so very lightly kissed the scar. Then, as he embraced me, he softly said into my ear ...

'You're ready now. Welcome home.'

I awoke, around 8:30 this morning, at first startled by the medical aspect, as I have horrendous health anxiety. But the deeper meaning came to me as I started to examine it in the context of a series of dreams.

In order:

Sacral (body)
Heart (heart)
Third Eye (soul)

These were blockages being removed. Impediments. Challenges. Obstacles.

My Twin initially helped me run the gauntlet, in 2012, even though we went our separate ways (astrally).

Now, I'm home -- with my family.

Could I possibly be any more blessed?

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Gremlin, die!

Seriously, what is the deal? Does LL not like too much bolding? I noticed I was having a heckuva time trying to get my posts through, too.

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