posted March 12, 2015 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You do not compete with one another nor do you pretend to be other than who you are

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posted March 12, 2015 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Aurora_girl1990:
What about if it's speed is 1'20".Does it mean it's direct or station.
I'm asking because Aubyanne said her north node was station..What does station mean?

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I assume that's stationary, but I don't know the stationary speed for nodes, I'll let Auby answer that.

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posted March 12, 2015 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:

I guess what I meant with "doubting the nature of the connection" is what you sometimes see, that people will basically check every new person they meet against a TF-checklist ("I just met this person; could he/she be my twinflame?") before anything has really happened, before a connection has been forged, and before one knows whether the other party is likewise affected or not. Maybe, part of the problem I tried to describe is really the psychological effect of the label "TF", as Ceridwen noted. Some people on the net have proclaimed a TF-model and given it certain positive attributes and characteristics which are usually derived from their own personal experience (many are even basically promoting their own relationship as a kind of model), and others are then tempted to meet these expectations rather than just taking in what actually happens between them and their partner, and being open to the idea that their union could look very different without being any less profound. In wonder, why would anyone who has found their twinflame need another's validation for it? Instead, what I often see is people who seem to hope that through finding their TF all their life problems will suddenly disappear, and who will take all sort of abuse and hardship because they believe it belongs to the "twinflame experience" and they have to submit to it rather than taking their life into their own hands (which could be what is meant by the 'preparatory stage' btw). So the label can do a lot of damage if that is the case. That having been said, I would always tend to refrain from judging another's relationship type simply because I believe it's only possible to be sure about it at the end of the lifetime, with hindsight. What we see right now might just be one short phase that is part of a much larger storyline that may indeed, as LeeLoo said, span over thousands or even millions of years, and who knows how many different ways of relating a TF couple would experience in all those lifetimes?

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posted March 12, 2015 04:36 PM            

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posted March 12, 2015 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Such a lovely post, Peluches, thank you! your description of Mr Scorp can make anyone love him, both of you in fact, I can imagine the connection you feel with him through your music.

That kind of Sun/Moon resonance through houses or aspect symbolism is one of the most important parts of a true Yin/Yang synastry So are the Bday resonances, in fact, what's on that list happens in most cases Sorry to hear he doesn't like women awww

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Thank you, Lee

posted March 12, 2015 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Thank you, Lee

Hmm, are these really that common with Twin Flame synastries or does it 'just' help with the affinity ?

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They are common with any long-term couples in a mutually fulfilling relationship, so there's no question about them being crucial in a TF synastry.

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posted March 12, 2015 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Concerning gates, just a few thoughts

° angles:
Definitely gates, entry points (ASC into the physical, IC into the soul mainly)

Why?

Because that is where "heaven and earth" meet, where we sort of merge the celestial configurations, the sky, with our earthly experience.

In fact it might be that this only true for the horizon, the ASC-DESC-line (but the IC-MC has a similiar significant meaning).

° 12th house:
not sure if this is a gate, though it is VERY important and significant. the ASC is also the separating line between the 12th house and the 1st house, between sunrise (12th house9 and night (1st house).

So while I consider the house very important, I am not yet fully concerned it operates as a portal (portal to and from what?)

° my personal take is that I see the different zodiacs as overlays of each other. Like you can place the Draconic and sidereal one onto the tropical one, the points that are conjunct in these act as portal or gate between those dimensions of experience.
(I suspsect that is why Auby uses the conjunction exclusively in her synastric analysis I ahve seen over the last days; while personally I am always tempted with the opposition, it makes sense, as it really is the con-junction which connects these gateways).

I also wonder if maybe those conjunctions will be strongest which coincide with the same Sabian degree and/or same Duad.

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I am thinking the 12th may be a portal in the sense that it gathers the entire history, story of the couple and it acts like a "last chamber", a cumulative experience in connection with karma, Pisces and the rising sun, also considering it as the darkest place of the chart, similar to Dagaz, the rune: Dagaz is the darkest moment before sunlight, breakthrough, dawn.

Great idea about the conjunctions and I think we've discussed this both with the incarnation (Pluto) charts and Draco and considered a close conjunction an embodiment of something into something else or a common embodiment, or a transgression of something into something else. Actually, we used this principle for duads and house placements as well, when discussing with Librandream, and the same happens there, it's like a gate or bridging of two energies, and while together they somehow cross on the "other side". But I agree with you when it comes to TFs, at least one major opposition, with some yin/Yang value, has to be there.

How about Lotis's Gate? here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/226621.html

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posted March 12, 2015 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
They are common with any long-term couples in a mutually fulfilling relationship, so there's no question about them being crucial in a TF synastry.

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posted March 12, 2015 06:35 PM            

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Once separated, the telepathy and cords grows stronger, not weaker.

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Great saying, I absolutely agree with this! And it has just occurred to me this preparatory stage is also a trial, an initiation, amplifying, deepening and proving the actual connection, because one of the things happening during the separation is the intensification of the psychic/telepathic connection and synchronicities also the time and chance to discover the person in your heart and soul rather than through their presence and also the chance to discover the impact and power the person has over you. So it is like an initiatic trial.
But this is a double-edged sword if we're talking here about only one person experiencing those and having the illusion or impression it's a mutual connection and not one-sided.

I think a minimal verification is not impossible, because the following should happen:
- info or news about the other person "retiring" somehow or going through a similar process (for example separating from their previous relationship, if this is the sad case of them being in a relationship; taking time off; enrolling into some detox program etc.) or some extraordinary events in their life "freeing" them from their previous life stage, such as loss or change of job, separation, going on a solo journey etc. If the other person is doing well or the same or is involved with someone else in an everyday happy relationship, obviously he is not going through the same process.
- checking actual synchronicities and the attempts by intermediaries to reconnect the twins
- there should be some powerful telepathic experiences with some real life effects (signs, synchronicities)
-both people are perceived as changed or changing by their entourage
- there is a pervasive positive feeling of excitement and expectation in the background, even during the most painful parts of the spiritual/physical preparation

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posted March 12, 2015 08:41 PM            

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Hi LeeLoo! Popping in from the other threads . I wanted to share a bit of my experience - astrologically IQ felt we had several TF markers with the man in question however we are NOT together...I pined over him for so long & it never got off the ground in a traditional sense. In "TF" language- I chased & he ran but that's neither here nor there. I'll post my stuff below

1. Similarities With Birth Dates –
I'm 7/29- he's 1/29. 2+9=11...12 years apart in age (he's older).

2. The feeling like you already knew this person before you met. The first eye locking unexpected moment we stared at each other in wonder. All of my chakras felt like they were exploding. He felt soooo familiar to me. He told me after that night he had to give me his business card but he didn't know why....

3. They seem unreal to you at times. he felt like a dream (and was/still is) in my dreams. Synchronicities still cause us to cross paths.

4. They will share some or all of the same views and beliefs you have in life.
Some- not all. We are diff religions but our views on many things in life were very much the same.

5. If you disagree or fight it will be strong and devastating. Time goes by where we do not speak. We are both now in other relationships. Seeing him still rips my heart out quietly and he will occasionally text me looking for reassurance that I still "care". We each hate to think the other is gone for good but....

6. You meeting of this person will have meeting and symbolism. we met under horrific circumstances surrounding school safety. I was not supposed to attend the meeting- he was the key note speaker. In a room full of hundreds our eyes sought each other's out.

7. You background story will contain lots of similarities and coincidences. He works in the town I live in. At one point we lived blocks from each other but didn't know it.

8. You will both complement each others abilities. we failed here. I loved & wanted & would have done anything- he pushed me away & went with "easy peasy". I was like a wounded animal over him.

9. You will feel how they feel even when there are great distances between you. YES. I felt his pain & he would feel mine. I would beg the universe for a sign when I was in the depths of despair- pulled over in my car crying & I would look up & he would be driving by....
He would text & say - what's wrong- I can't believe i just saw you- I felt you were feeling sad...."
Stuff like that.

10. You may have had dreams or visions about this person or how you would meet. fail here too. I never dreamed of him before that life changing day we met.

11. They must feel the exact same way toward you.
It didn't end w happily ever after.
I let go....finally....,and another man who I love dearly (soulmate) entered my life. I will ALWAYS love the man I believe may be my TF & I know by the way he still contacts me sporadically that I haunt him. It's not a happy ending for he & I though. I still dream of him....

http://www.danielbranch.com/how-to-identify-a-twin-flame-by-signs-and-similarities/

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posted March 13, 2015 06:40 AM            

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It sounds like there must be a strong connection between you, likely stemming from contact in past lives. I can relate, as I have someone in my life with whom there were somewhat similar things going on, though not exactly the same. But most of all, congrats for finding a good partner! Maybe you can morph this old connection into a beautiful friendship with time…as you already seem to be doing.

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posted March 13, 2015 12:13 PM            

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That's wonderful! And it's indeed amazing to see so many here go through similar experiences…makes one feel not so alone!

You know, my case seems similar to yours in the sense that despite a strong romantic attraction since our teen years, circumstances and mutual spells of fear/ignorance always prevented it from becoming a real relationship. He still sometimes seems to feel kinda sad about that (and has expressed his regret to me), but years ago I realized it was perhaps even better this way, that we've remained platonic all this time; because that way, injuries and betrayal and other painful stuff that can happen between romantic partners will never taint our connection. I have kind of sublimed the romantic feelings towards him into a brotherly sort of love. A few years ago we had a real good, long talk about all our past issues concerning each other and brought it all out into the open. Since then, it's been pure love of the non-romantic kind. We don't see each other very often, but stay in regular contact in similar ways to what you described, and occasionally meet to give each other a heads up, and it always feels as if no time had passed by! This year it will be 25 years since we first met...

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What an amazing story!
Do either of you have other partners?

I can only strive for my connection to end up as something similar to what you wrote. It is a soothing feeling to take that electric energy I once felt and channel it into pure and "acceptance" type energy.
I'm not 100% there yet Hopefully I will be one day.

posted March 13, 2015 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
That's wonderful! And it's indeed amazing to see so many here go through similar experiences…makes one feel not so alone!

You know, my case seems similar to yours in the sense that despite a strong romantic attraction since our teen years, circumstances and mutual spells of fear/ignorance always prevented it from becoming a real relationship. He still sometimes seems to feel kinda sad about that (and has expressed his regret to me), but years ago I realized it was perhaps even better this way, that we've remained platonic all this time; because that way, injuries and betrayal and other painful stuff that can happen between romantic partners will never taint our connection. I have kind of sublimed the romantic feelings towards him into a brotherly sort of love. A few years ago we had a real good, long talk about all our past issues concerning each other and brought it all out into the open. Since then, it's been pure love of the non-romantic kind. We don't see each other very often, but stay in regular contact in similar ways to what you described, and occasionally meet to give each other a heads up, and it always feels as if no time had passed by! This year it will be 25 years since we first met...

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I've had a similar experience. I'm one to move on once I've agreed to separate with someone, even if I still have feelings - the whole 'staying friends' concept never felt natural to me. But this one person, who broke my heart so badly that it turned me upside down and I even felt suicidal for a while, ironically remained a friend We formed a strong, emotional bond, he was the pursuer and the feelings I developed for him were more intense than anything I had experienced before. Then it became clear that nothing can happen (it turned out he had a pregnant wife. Double slap in the face). This sent me in a horrible depression, but it was the most transformative period of my life, which resulted in me starting taking care of my health, getting another degree in education, becoming spiritual, searching for and finding my life's purpose and emerging with a completely different sense of identity and self-worth. I categorically believe that this person's purpose in my life was to send me on the right path.

I'm very happy it remained platonic now that I look back. We remained close friends after this, despite me resolving a few times in the early stages to put distance between us - the friendship just naturally 'kept happening'. We naturally reach out to each other in difficult times and support each other. We both have enormous respect for each other. If anyone had told me that I'd value the friendship of a person who led me on while having a wife, who on top of that is pregnant, I never would have believed. But life is unpredictable.

posted March 13, 2015 01:52 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
BTW, the research on Twins is extremely new, are you aware of it? Almost non-existent. To the point i am not even sure a Twinflame union has ever taken place and that in fact, the very contemporary interest in this is mostly because we are on the brink of our very first TF reunion or string of TF reunions. i don't think that's bad. Actually, I have a feeling it hasn't happened yet, in its purest form.

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I actually agree with this, Lee.

I think I might have been positioned as one of the frontrunners due to my following my artistic calling after having 'fulfilled' my background in law enforcement. One was essential in order to properly satisfy the other.

I'm also aware that I very well may be telling the first genuine Twin Flame story in modern fiction. But I feel we're ready. In many forms, all of it's been leading up to this. Exciting times. Some of it's wrong, some of it's right, and I've been slaving away to ensure that the right stuff is what gets through. There's so much misinformation. It's important that we remember the bigger picture, rather than the 'happily ever after' destination.

posted March 13, 2015 02:18 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
My own view as well. Switching bodies is against the core myth.

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posted March 13, 2015 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I assume that's stationary, but I don't know the stationary speed for nodes, I'll let Auby answer that.

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