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Randall
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posted July 22, 2012 05:50 PM
  
You are whatever identity you have at that time. I never tell my age. And most of my closest friends don't even know what I do for work. I keep it mysterious, and it works for me.------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted July 23, 2012 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
You are whatever identity you have at that time.
What does that mean?
Can you really call a person a close friend if they know nothing about you?------------------
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Randall
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posted July 23, 2012 09:40 AM
They know a lot about me. What does it matter about superficialities if they know my character? ------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted July 23, 2012 03:25 PM
Well this thread is about the superficialities you refer to and how to deal with a world that regards them as important------------------
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emitres
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posted July 25, 2012 01:20 PM
perhaps that's part of the process - encouraging society to place less importance on those superficilaties...if i make less of it, those around me may start to do the same...
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MAKLHOUF
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posted July 25, 2012 03:13 PM
The beliefs are so strong in so many people that I think you would harm yourself if you tried to change them.------------------
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emitres
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posted July 26, 2012 11:33 AM
"be the change..." ------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted August 07, 2012 02:53 PM
One thing I have noticed is that if a person feels that I have gone through similar experiences to them, they automatically assume that I am the same age. By giving this impression, I have managed to convince quite a few people of disparate ages that I am their contemporary.------------------
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Randall
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posted August 08, 2012 02:50 PM
Haha! Yeah, me, too.------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted August 17, 2012 08:05 AM
The problem is that when they read the documentation, or somebody tells them my "real" age, I then feel like a fraudster and the friendship goes bad.------------------
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Randall
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posted August 18, 2012 09:44 AM
Yeah, that can happen.------------------
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Randall
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posted August 19, 2012 09:46 AM
Why not just say that it's against your beliefs to reveal your age? Then you don't have to lie. ------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted August 19, 2012 01:29 PM
That is not the way human communication works. People do not go about stating their beliefs etc. in that bald way. Everything is based on assumptions and nuances.------------------
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Randall
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posted August 20, 2012 12:34 PM
It can be done.------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted August 20, 2012 01:35 PM
The thread was about how to square your conscience with the fact that others see you as living a lie. Obviously, if you re not lying in the first place the problem will not arise, but that is not the world I live in.------------------
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emitres
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posted August 21, 2012 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by MAKLHOUF:
The thread was about how to square your conscience with the fact that others see you as living a lie. Obviously, if you re not lying in the first place the problem will not arise, but that is not the world I live in.
i'm starting to wonder about the world you do live in..  ------------------
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Randall
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posted August 22, 2012 09:25 AM
lol------------------
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Randall
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posted August 28, 2012 09:32 AM
Tell us more about that.------------------
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Randall
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posted August 29, 2012 11:43 AM
The world you live in, I mean.------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted September 01, 2012 10:57 AM
I do not find this line of questioning supportive. It is difficult enough being "different" in the normal world, so there is no point in coming to LL to be made to feel "freaky" or abnormal. I post here to communicate with like minds and I am only interested in preaching with the converted. thank you for your interest.------------------
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DiamondGoddess!
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posted September 04, 2012 03:23 AM
Maklhouf!
Lemme tell you what I do--
I am an actress, so I USE that to dodge the age question. "Oh, darling, one never asks a lady, an especially an actress, her age!" (Said with peals of laughter.)
I use humor to deflect. But people have been SO persistent--one woman after a long time asked me when I graduated from high school and I told her because I was tired of it.
It definitely takes some creativity, and I do NOT feel I am "lying." I feel it's really none of their business...and a compliment!
It's nice to know my "youthing" is working!------------------
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DiamondGoddess!
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posted September 04, 2012 03:30 AM
And if I am considered a "freak," it is a freak of beauty, so it totally works for me. (I act in movies, and one time I got hired for one thing and then on set, they pulled me in with the "club kids" and I went! Good thing, too, because of that I made the final cut! =))
Plus, people really are taking better care of themselves, so it's not as outre as it would have been in an age where everyone died at 30.
Double plus, I audition for a living and could give a good gingersnap (channeling LG there!) what anyone thinks of me. I think THEY are odd for aging...and dying! =)
There's a lady on Youtube who is 70 and looks 30. Her diet would be too time-consuming to be practical for me, though. But the idea is really out there in the culture.------------------
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emitres
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posted September 04, 2012 10:58 AM
maklhouf - no one was trying to make you feel freaky... but i do wonder why you maintain social circles that seem to be so intrusive and disrespectful of your personal wishes... most of us who post here are of like mind and are trying to be supportive but you do seem hell-bent on playing devil's advocate... life is going to be as difficult as you make it out to be... i am sorry if your friendships go badly because you don't disclose every single piece of your life to your peers - are those really the types of people you want to associate with on a regular basis? ------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted September 04, 2012 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by DiamondGoddess!:
Maklhouf!
But people have been SO persistent--one woman after a long time asked me when I graduated from high school and I told her because I was tired of it.
It definitely takes some creativity, and I do NOT feel I am "lying." I feel it's really none of their business...and a compliment!
It's nice to know my "youthing" is working!
I had a similar experience, diamond goddess, when a person finally resorted to asking me how old my parents were!
Emitres, you seem to forget having posted a number of times that you find the company you keep to be very deathist oriented and uncongenial. ------------------
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DiamondGoddess!
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posted September 05, 2012 01:19 AM
How did you handle the "How old are your parents?" question?------------------
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