posted January 26, 2003 10:53 AM              

Just don't think about the women tonight-just the large men in tights running around a field with a ball of pigskin.

posted January 26, 2003 11:59 AM              

Get a double tequila your friend bought you.

posted January 27, 2003 06:36 PM            

Is it really keeping your "pig headed" side down or are you trying to shut off the real you?

Some may see you as overbearing, but maybe you are really just determined and in control. There is nothing wrong with the person you are as long as you are not hurting others. If you are the type of strong person that sees what needs to be done and you take charge of a situation, then what is wrong with that? Those are admirable traits and maybe you have just been surrounding yourself with people that do not want to see what is in front of them.

There are times when people are just so into what is in their immediate sight, that they see the person that points to the horizon as being "pushy". You may be the person in your crowd that is actually ready to break free and move forward, while the others want a more "docile lion" and not the strong, but loving soul that you are.

I am always concerned when someone says they need and artifical push in order to become "more likable or tolerable". You seem like someone that is looking for an equal among a crowd that us just looking for a good time. It will always be frustrating for you if you do not accept who you are.

Before you think I am just talking out of my rear, I did go through some of the same as you. My crowd was into just partying and pulling "c's" to get by. Maybe it was because I was the only science geek in the crowd of jocks, business and education majors. I wanted to play, but only after I was done with my work. I would get grief from some of the guys that thought it was a waste that I didn't put out or "pass out" for them to play with. That is not my style and if they didn't like me, then it didn't matter. I sure didn't score any points when I would look them right in the eyes and say "You're opinion of me doesn't matter since you will never be an important part of my life, in fact you are an insignificant bleep on my radar and you know it".

It may have been mean, but I am not the one that has to sell shoes in a department store because I drank / smoked / or drugged my life away. Those people didn't care about my future only what they could get from me at the present.

So, if people are telling you that you are so much nicer when you smoke pot, maybe you should ask yourself what is up with those people. You seem like a person with a lot of potential and strength. I hate to see any good Leo subdued when they are, by nature, strong.

------------------
"Lahn dádzaayú nahikai leh ni' nyelíí k'ehge," Goyathlay (Geronimo)

posted January 29, 2003 09:40 AM              

And I'm just apalled to see adults glorify Ecstacy. Unbelieveable!

You ought to have heard that in some instances it takes just ONE tiny, cute little smiley-E (or whatever) to cause severe damage to your brain and its everyday functions.
Where's the spirituality in feeding your brain with chemicals, anyway?
Obviously, I have no idea what Linda Goodman might have said about drugs, but even so, I can't see how the different "odes" to E belong in a forum like this.
Also, it's rather surprising to note that nobody took a stand against drugs until now?
In Northern Europe, E has been making headlines for some 10 years now. (Teenage deaths). Adults simply don't do E over here. Maybe that's why I'm more of a skeptic?
Just my humble opinion

(When drinking, I'm totally my Sag ASC in close companionship with my Venus/Mars conjunction in Libra. Not to mention I have Jupiter in the 5th house. You'll find me flirting like a madwoman with guys who have a mind of their own!?!).

posted January 29, 2003 10:31 AM              

I have been a drug user for a few years. I smoke dope have done cocaine and esctasy.

I am a hyperactive aries so when smoking it calms me down and I become scorpion which is my moon.

When I do esctasy and cocaine I definately become chatty witty and aquarian which is my rising sign.

My surrondings is also very important if I am in a club or a new enviroment I hide behind my sun and ascendent.

If I feel truely comftable I will let myself be scorpion.

I understand your views magnolia but I think everything can be done in moderation. Yes these things can be harmful but drinking is one of the biggest killers in the world. Personally I really don't like what alchol does to me.

I have been in the clubbing drug scene for about 7 years now and it is not all a bad thing it does have its down sides like everything. But in escence it is about lots of people wanting to have a good time with each other and make friends listening to music and dancing which I find one of the best therapies ever. It was the first time I felt truely excepted as a person.

God I sound like a hippy

posted January 30, 2003 01:54 AM              

I think there is a difference, I would never encourage a young person who is interested in drugs but has never done them to go out and roll their brains out, etc., but with adults who aren't impressionable I can feel free to bring up both good situations and bad. I have done both here.

Btw we are opposites- I am Aquarius sun and my scorp asc probably shows a little when I am drinking, I see my gem moon too though

posted February 02, 2003 11:48 AM              

I have a question when I started using drugs I felt like my whole world was expanding I started to look at life from angles that I never before thought possible. Could this be that drugs give you the push to bring down your masks that you present to the world?

Even now I still find that people whom have never been in that world are quite narrow minded and not quite as street wise. I am not saying this is bad thing at all it is just what I have noticed. Has anyone else found this to be true? Soz to go completely of track

posted February 03, 2003 12:37 PM            

Sorry it took so long for me to reply. I just got back into the office from a conference in Nashville, TN.

I already graduated from the Uni (Bio / Chem) back in 96.

I never got into drugs due to personal professional and family choices. My career is one that past drug abuse, could have kept me from ever going into forensics (even as a civilian)although I decided not to go that route. Also, many of my family members are involved in law enforcement (others had their lives destroyed because of drugs), so that prevented me from wanting to take the chance.

On a personal level, it just wasn't somethings I ever wanted to do knowing the the physiological complications from doing specific drugs, even those that people think are innocous or enlightening. There are too many people that have done harm to their brains and bodies that cannot be reversed.

Lost Leo, I hope that I didn't offend you with my earlier post. It just seems to me that you can have the world at your fingertips, please don't blunt your chances by hiding in a joint.

------------------
"Lahn dádzaayú nahikai leh ni' nyelíí k'ehge," Goyathlay (Geronimo)

posted February 04, 2003 08:05 AM              

Since X is known [sic] to often contain heroin, I wouldn't do that to myself.
Peer pressure never had much effect on me.

Secondly, one pill was enough for a childhood friend of mine. After 4 years of seeming drunk and/or retarded, he committed suicide.
I certainly don't mean to preach. But there seems to be some information that you have chosen to ignore, and I'm sorry.

"The amount of MDMA needed to get "high" is close to the toxic dose."
Excerpt from the following source: http://www.ecstacynow.com/ecstacy_facts.html

"MDMA is not a naturally occurring drug. It has to be produced, usually in underground laboratories. Thus one can never be certain what ecstasy really contains. Some tests have found anything from speed, heroin, cocaine and LSD in what was supposed to be ecstasy. This day in age ecstasy is extremely easy to obtain and is taken mainly by youths and young adults at raves, night clubs, and parties."
"The law for ecstasy is the same as the law for all severe drugs. Ecstasy is a designer drug often created with some of the harshest drugs around. Prosecutable crimes start at knowing someone who has it and end carry through to selling and importing the drug. The penalty's involved with this are also harsher because ecstasy is a growing problem with adolescence and teenagers."

Both from this website: http://www.streetdrugtruth.com/drugs/ecstasy.php4

posted February 04, 2003 02:47 PM              

We all know what it does to us - or should do - before we take it.

I might as well say "I think we should all ban driving because it can kill you "

posted February 04, 2003 06:53 PM              

well, back on topic, E seems to accentuate sun sign traits more than anything else

*goes back to scribbling notes*

posted February 05, 2003 02:23 PM            

Thanks for taking things in the right context. I do think that you are realizing that to give up a certain way of life, may mean losing certain friendships. Then again, are they really your friends if that cannot deal with your strengths?

They say that we move on from our friendships almost every 4-5 years because we all grow emotionally at different rates. I think for someone that is a strong Leo, that is a hard thing to take. Leo's like for form lasting bonds and genuinely love their friends. Throw in that Pisces moon and it must be a bit heartbreaking to think that you have outgrown those relationships.

As a Sag, I have always had the philosophy that everything happens for a reason and we all go in and out of each others lives to teach and to learn lessons. I have moved quite often, but almost every friend I have made is still in my heart, but not so much in my life. Sometimes we just outgrow them or they outgrow us.

We all know the ramifications of using drugs, any kind of drug and what it can do to our bodies. Yes, alcohol does kill more people that E, but then again, it is legal and therefore more likely to be used. Should E ever become legal, we would see a massive increase in the number of deaths due to that drug as well.

To sit back and use the high death rates of alcohol and tobacco (legal) to justify the use of illegal drugs (due to lower death rates) is not scientific. You would have to really look at the side effects per dose per person. So if 100 people took E and 55 people had an adverse reaction, whereas 100 people had 4 beers and 20 people had an adverse reaction we would see that E is more toxic and liable to lead to death that alcohol.

In other words, if E was a car it would be one with faulty brakes, bald tires and a bad steering column whereas alcohol would be the fast car with power. Each one can lead to an accident, but which is more dangerous and which is most likely to injure the driver, even if driven properly?

More people die from eating fatty food that those that try E, so does that mean that E is better than fatty food?

Sorry, but the anal retentive science geek in me has to scream "Foul" when the wrong data is used to prove a point.

------------------
"Lahn dádzaayú nahikai leh ni' nyelíí k'ehge," Goyathlay (Geronimo)