posted July 03, 2003 03:31 PM            

Most often, the fear of losing ones freedom is enough to make a Sag think twice about the reprecussions. Also, a few close calls (Jupiter's help no doubt) keeps us in line.

It would be interesting to look at the stats of drug abuse / rehab versus astrological signs. I mean, we could even just look at people in and out of the clinics:

Robert Downey Jr.: (Aries Sun / Taurus Moon)
Liz Taylor: (Pisces Sun / Scorpio Moon)
Whitney Houston: (Leo Sun / Aries Moon)
Bobby Brown: (Aquarius Sun / Moon Virgo)
Matthew Perry: (Leo Sun / Scorpio Moon)
Ben Affleck: (Leo Sun / Scorpio Moon)
Kate Moss: (Capricorn Sun / Scorpio Moon)
Woody Harrelson: (Leo Sun / Sagittarius Moon)
Judd Nelson: (Sagittarius Sun / Scorpio Moon)
Corey Feldman (Cancer Sun / Moon Taurus)
Chris Farley: (Aquarius Sun / Pisces Moon)

Hmm, not sure if a predominance of water or fire means anything yet, but there seem to be some trends. I will snoop around and see if there is any published data on the net. I know I came across Astrology in relation to criminals / serial killers.

I'll let ya'll know.

posted July 03, 2003 08:13 PM              

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posted July 03, 2003 09:15 PM            

Not to mention my research on the abuse of pot in adults and the number of children borne to those adults with ADD? Infact there is a consensus among medical professionals that even men that abuse / use pot have shortened microtubules (which decreases mobility in sperm) which may also lead to the certain genetic problems within the fetus.

posted July 03, 2003 10:57 PM              

So, pot isn't the root of all evil.

posted July 03, 2003 11:50 PM            

I have heard the arguments that RX drugs, sugar and other substances cause more deaths than illegal drugs, but who has ever conducted a study on the use of substances such as pot, X, cocaine (well NIDA is doing some) but in actuality, no one has looked at the numbers.

What needs to be looked at is the dosage verus side effect and compare that to the population. For example, we know salt can kill, but for every 100,000 people that eat high sodium diets, say 1000 people die. For every 100,000 people that use pot, 10,000 people have children with ADD. So when we really look at the numbers we find that using that drug is more detrimental than eating salt.

The same is true for alcohol. For every 100 people that have 5 drinks, say 15 people get sick, but for every 100 people that snort coke, 50 people have an adverse effect, therefore what is worse?

That is how we look at things in the drug market when we apply for approvals from the FDA. We look at the lethal dose or the dose that causes a high number of side effects.

posted July 04, 2003 02:11 PM              

I had a long counter arguement all typed up and just about ready to send, and I lost the damn thing. - hit 'clear feilds' instead of 'submit now' . Guess it wasn't meant to be.

Ah, who cares. I don't feel strongly enough about it to retype it all.

I just want to say opioids went through the same "image problem" before they became approved, and consequently, widely accepted. Now, what would we do without Demerol and Morphine, for instance?

posted July 07, 2003 03:06 PM            

Yeah, I noticed that too. When I first starting digging around I was sure I would find a higher concentration of additions and those people with a heavy mutable influence. I wonder if being so "Fixed" almost makes the personality want to be able to be a bit more "open" which they find through certain substances?

posted July 07, 2003 03:51 PM            

I do think that we sometimes set up such rigid guidelines that we fall prey to certain outlets. Take the celebrity that inside wants the quiet, relfective life, but is constantly hounded by fans and the press. Maybe they really LOVE to play music, act or write, but they just can't deal with the spotlight, so they escape.

If I ever became famous (LOL...as if) I would probably go nuts. My private time is so important to me and the thought of people constantly around makes my heart beat like crazy. So, I would make an awful famous person. LOL

posted July 07, 2003 04:13 PM              

you are right about most famous actors and actresses. my roommate is friends with a celebrity who lives here in SF, and he says she actually prefers the quiet and serene. her house is right on the coast line.

posted July 07, 2003 08:14 PM              

Boredom is the cause of most problems in life, if something or someone is boring you, you can always walk away and start over..Focus in the here and now is sexy, if I'm with someone who can't function socially without a drink.that's not sexy, or amusing.

posted July 08, 2003 02:38 PM            

I used to smoke. I started when I was about 15 and kept up until October 2000. I was a weird smoker though. I never did it in the house, rarely in the car, and smoked about 5 a day at the most. I did it mostly when I was drinking, but found it was the way I kept my hands busy and passed the time when I was nervous.

Then I had food poisoning and couldn't tolerate the smell or taste of smoking, so I was done with it.

For me, learning about what I would face regarding withdrawal made it easier to go through. I embraced what would happen and just dealt with it. My mom used to smoke, she is very sensitive, a double cancer with a Scorpio rising and she also quit.

I think it is a matter of willpower and we all have it, some just choose not to use it.

Lost Leo,

Boredom is worse than death to a Sag, but I would thing your friend is using drugs for another reason. He is running from himself. Most Saggies have so much going in their lives that there is no time for the whole drug thing, but there are some that want to escape who they are.

posted July 08, 2003 05:30 PM            

Demons are hard to face, but even harder if you do not take the time to meet them head on. I had to learn a lot about myself and my demons, which still crop up every now and again. I think that we are all haunted in some way.

Lost Leo...dad's not just a police officer, he is a special agent for the Bureau of Narcotics. But, that did not stop me from learning all I could about drugs, not just taking his word for it, but researching and learning from my friends. For myself, I did try a few things, but it wasn't for me.

posted July 08, 2003 06:23 PM              

I have yet to find anyone who drinks a lot to be good company on a regular basis. Eventually it leads to drives to the AA meetings, and if he's really dependent, you have to hold his hand because otherwise he will chicken out and leave and say he went when he didn't. And don't even get me started on love addicts because I think he went there just to hear the stories the little perv. He couldn't share of course, with anyone but me.

So no, I do toxic substances, such as chalk and oil paints, already, not to mention the ozone has no ozone left and I am being poisoned by the toxic waste in the ocean, and in the water, do I need anything else?

Drinking leads to hallucinations and eventually the old one drink and my liver can't take it anymore. I mean drinking is a dead end job, it's not like you drink and drink and then you get to be a what? drunk? There is no Social Security for old drunks. Call me when you see snakes, I'll send someone to pick you up.

Sorry to be so cold, but it's kind to be cruel.
This boundary between drunks and me is here.

posted August 02, 2003 02:29 AM              

on a more socialistic note, perhaps you have not read or heard or felt about the indigo children the way that I AM.

secondly, the studies you suggested were very exclusively performed in refrence to the smoking of marijuana (my guess is through a pipe or through rolling papers)

A water bong helps to filter some of the harmful chemicals caused by *SMOKE*
Now did you remember i mentioned Vaporization?
It is very similiar and yet drastically different. NO BAD FOR LUNGS NO BAD FOR HEART NO BAD FOR THROAT NO BAD FOR BRAIN
also eating it and drinking it are options.

Another issue you brought up was something along the lines of ... I am OK with herbs, and aeromatherapy and procedures, But im not ok with it just to get whacked out of your mind.

did I say anything in my above statement about CEREBRAL? how about ALERT?

The above statements are in escense Factual.

My personal statement here is...

I CELEBRATE EARTH
Please know friends...family that you are loved HERE and NOW. May peace be in your
HEART

posted August 03, 2003 12:00 AM              

You get what you give.

There is no wrong or right, just what's wrong or right for each person individually in his or her society. We learn what's right by how we feel about it. So please don't try to change my mind or feelings on a subject. I don't understand why anyone would want to change someone's mind on this subject. There are more important subjects out there to talk about. There are homeless freezing to death in the winter, corporations ripping off the poor, babies being left in garbage cans in the city, young children trying out heroin, try to channel that energy into something really constructive and positive for all people.

You get what you give, even if it's preaching..