posted May 21, 2008 08:29 AM            

He still lingers, but that is due to our strange synastry, he is as Piscean as I am Aquarian, many of our plantes just hang around eachother, our Suns flirt with eachother's personal plantes.

Funny, he was never cold around me, I think my Pisces energy brought out the Pisces in him, he was always warm and sweet. Then he would be off to his airy kingdom to sit upon his icy throne.

I backed him into an emotional corner and this I will never do to an Aqua again.

posted May 21, 2008 08:35 PM            

It is a very long story.

Basically, I have tolerated much from this man, including him being married. It is a "marriage of convenience" at it's end, they are roommates with one teenager and one young adult still at home, and do not relate.

But when his life started falling apart, financially, and he blew me off, cause he could not handle all things at once, I told him my way or the highway.

The topic of "love" came up, and to get me off his back, he lied to me about loving me, said all he ever wanted from me was a friend.

****** me off royally, so I grew very ugly...my ego took over and the gentle Fish swam away, far away, too hurt to deal.

I said things to him I would never say, and he knows it was out of hurt.

I will never do this again to an Aqua, ever. They just can not handle over-emoting. They do not like confrontation, as a rule, exceptions are there, tho.

Taking one day at a time as I anticipate the Pisces calling...

posted May 23, 2008 08:26 AM            

Lesson no. 2 for me...

The Aqua finally took it back and told me he told me what he did to get me off his rear, he has many, many difficulties in life now. Admitted he was wrong.

Everything he told me I had already intuited, knew, but the old ego vs heart thing just kept bugging me.

So, I will never again not trust my intuition.

And...the Pisces is lovely, kind, caring, funny, intelligent.

A very big heart.

posted May 23, 2008 01:57 PM            

Yeah. We suck.

Sorry!
You know what you're getting yourself into.

Stop talking to us.

It's the only thing you can do.
Even when we call you. Cuz we will.

Don't talk to us ever again.

posted May 27, 2008 10:46 AM            

Stop talking to us.

It's the only thing you can do.
Even when we call you. Cuz we will.

Don't talk to us ever again.

... then you can't complain"

Shut up...You already said that let these ladies come here and vent if they need to. No one needs your negative comments, ppl have to work things out for themselves. Its a process that both of them seem to be trying to work out..

posted May 27, 2008 03:54 PM            

They keep hurting you, again and again, and you keep going back to it. How is that positive?

Sometimes you need to be told what you don't want to hear. But it's the truth.

I have the right to say whatever I want as much as anyone else, and playing devil's advocate is a common aqua trait.

You should be used to it by now...

So either accept that this is what will keep happening until you let go, or keep hearing from people like me, who know that our behaviour will not change, that you need to realize they are not going to be good for you. Ever.

Move on.

posted May 27, 2008 04:21 PM            

I realize "live and let live", obviously.

Have you ever tried to spare somebody more pain by being brutally honest with them?

I know it's not about me. Obviously you have always had a problem with Aqua men. You have vented about it for years. I am merely saying, don't you see how much more harm you are doing to yourself by continuing to let them in and damage you emotionally? The way you are responding to me is totally apparent that they have hurt you to the point of beyond bitterness, and yet... you go back.

Forgive me if I don't see why you want to torture yourself... I have watched many people let themselves be drained by others, no matter what their sign... and it breaks my heart.

Forgive me if I think that if there is so much bitterness and anger and still attatchment in these women, that being told they should let it go once and for all is just another option that just seems healthier.

You want to yell at me some more, go ahead. But my words are not coming from the same place as yours. Cool detachment, remember?

I wish you all peace, I just hope you don't burn yourselves out wasting your precious energies and light on ppl who don't appreciate or deserve it.

posted May 27, 2008 04:25 PM            

Thats the best you have said..

This is not about you or me, persa and I am not bitter about anything bc I realize that sometimes you have to go through some things to get to where you need to be. I embrace all of the lessons that I have learned through out this journey and I am right where I want and need to be..But what I do have a problem with is ppl trying to make a person see what they want them to see..It does not work like that..Being a Aqua you should also know that ppl are gonna do what they wanna do, you can't tell grown folks what you think they should be doing..We all have a journey and if it takes 4 days or 4 years to reach so be it. Thats live and let live..

posted May 27, 2008 04:25 PM            

I think what ghanima was saying and as an Aqua I understand is that;
There is no point expecting us to come to our senses and change our ways.
No one can cut and move on quicker than an Aqua. My stock phrase used to be "If you don't like it, you know what to do"
Not because I was being horrible but because I was saying "If you are unhappy then leave....because I would!
And I never been able to relate to people who stay in unhappy pairings.
Now that may be a failing on my part but even my friends know better than to chew my ear off about people they have no intention of leaving.
But if they do leave, then no one is a better support than me to help them.
I think it was just an Aqua perspective.
Which is what this thread is about!

posted May 27, 2008 04:44 PM            

Do you think that people who say they are going their own journey, and leave them alone, don't tell them they are wrong, they don't like to be told how to live their lives (and I do this too, so I'm not claiming innocence or picking on any one person) are just in denial? Like, they don't want to see another side, it's too close to what they are trying so hard to hide/change/whatever... I think I have done this to my mother many times...

We all see what we want when we want, I guess. When we are ready, we won't be so defensive...

I just had that thought...

posted May 27, 2008 09:11 PM            

Point proven. Thanks!

posted May 28, 2008 08:17 AM            

I have always known that water and air can make some tumultuous weather!