posted August 13, 2012 08:24 AM            

I have never seen a person lose being a Mod. Randall is a natural mentor and will help you gain wisdom and maturity, which is really what you are talking about.
You will screw up, though. Learning to screw up and go on, is a huge part of learning maturity,

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posted August 13, 2012 08:56 AM            

Ode 314

Those who don't feel this Love
pulling them like a river,
those who don't drink dawn
like a cup of spring water
or take in sunset like supper,
those who don't want to change,

let them sleep.

This Love is beyond the study of theology,
that old trickery and hypocrisy.
If you want to improve your mind that way,

sleep on.

I've given up on my brain.
I've torn the cloth to shreds
and thrown it away.

If you're not completely naked,
wrap your beautiful robe of words
around you,

and sleep.

-Rumi

From:
"Like This, Rumi; Coleman Barks, Maypop Books http://www.rumilovepoems.com/rumi_lovepoems_3.htm

posted August 13, 2012 09:00 AM            

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posted August 13, 2012 09:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
RP
I kind of think you were meant to be in this Forum, so you could learn life lessons that you need( and we all need lol)

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thanks, Ami

posted August 13, 2012 09:34 AM            

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posted August 13, 2012 05:17 PM            

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Many people are too lazy to study anything.

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Hope you werent being serious there - or, referring to anyone in this thread, Ami Anne.

posted August 13, 2012 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Well, if you want to talk the Bible, that is one thing. If you want to talk yoga, that is another.

I only talk the pure Bible. I don't deal in yoga etc

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posted August 13, 2012 05:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
"God is Love" means something along these lines to me:

Ode 314

Those who don't feel this Love
pulling them like a river,
those who don't drink dawn
like a cup of spring water
or take in sunset like supper,
those who don't want to change,

let them sleep.

This Love is beyond the study of theology,
that old trickery and hypocrisy.
If you want to improve your mind that way,

sleep on.

I've given up on my brain.
I've torn the cloth to shreds
and thrown it away.

If you're not completely naked,
wrap your beautiful robe of words
around you,

and sleep.

-Rumi

From:
"Like This, Rumi; Coleman Barks, Maypop Books http://www.rumilovepoems.com/rumi_lovepoems_3.htm

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posted August 13, 2012 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by T:
Arent you the one who says she does two hours of Kundalini Yoga every morning (as you have said here on the forums many times before) and suggested it's benefits to other people? Giving that up now?

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No, why should I
I do it for the exercise, not the spirituality behind it, as it does have one. I know.

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posted August 13, 2012 05:44 PM            

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posted August 13, 2012 05:53 PM            

You did remind me of this great quote though:

“Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than going to a garage makes you an automobile.”

chew on that one.

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posted August 13, 2012 06:13 PM            

i understand your revulsion at bickering and rude wordslinging. however there are a lot of differing opinions on the OP/title of this thread, religion is a touchy subject to discuss since so many people consider theirs the ONLY one...

i don't know if you were referring to me, but i don't believe i have been rude or uncivil here, just questioning statements that to me are confusing at the least, and dogmatic at the worst...while i realize people get very attached to their views on religion, by the very title of this thread i, for one, would expect more acceptance of varied views.

while i did MENTION gu, it was only as a lighthearted reference to prophecy. no interest in bringing it here!

i also believe that god is love, though i do not believe in the personified sort of god defined by christianity..nor the personal sort of love that is implied. my sense is that god is everything, and allows a multitude of paths to "enlightenment" for lack of a better word.

paramahansa yoga was so close to christlike one has to wonder if christians aren't missing out on something profound.

posted August 13, 2012 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
@ ami i am so far from believing that christ is the "only way to everlasting life" ... having had experiences and read/received teachings since childhood that have made it very obvious that everlasting life is INESCAPABLE, not something difficult to achieve and to be strived for.

the first of these experiences involved two dogs, one dead, one not yet born. i doubt if either of them ever heard of christ (though one was an irish terrier!) but they taught me firsthand that life goes on and the veil between the worlds is mighty thin.

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Yes, I agree but the Bible says to test the spirits. Just because one has a supernatural experience does not mean it is from God. There are two spiritual forces out there---Light and Dark.

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posted August 14, 2012 08:21 AM            

That's all.

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Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma.

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posted August 15, 2012 07:27 AM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
dear, sweet, RP

i understand your revulsion at bickering and rude wordslinging. however there are a lot of differing opinions on the OP/title of this thread, religion is a touchy subject to discuss since so many people consider theirs the ONLY one...

i don't know if you were referring to me, but i don't believe i have been rude or uncivil here, just questioning statements that to me are confusing at the least, and dogmatic at the worst...while i realize people get very attached to their views on religion, by the very title of this thread i, for one, would expect more acceptance of varied views.

while i did MENTION gu, it was only as a lighthearted reference to prophecy. no interest in bringing it here!

i also believe that god is love, though i do not believe in the personified sort of god defined by christianity..nor the personal sort of love that is implied. my sense is that god is everything, and allows a multitude of paths to "enlightenment" for lack of a better word.

paramahansa yoga was so close to christlike one has to wonder if christians aren't missing out on something profound.

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I wasn't referring to you personally, Kat. Sorry if it came off that way.

My personal opinion is that I'd like threads to stick to the topic (within reason/allowing for natural meandering). It's normal not to agree. What upsets me, though, is how it is expressed sometimes.

It's the tone and how it gets personal sometimes that upsets me. The fact that people disagree is normal. I just don't like it when threads get widely derailed in such a way that makes it an all-out battlefield.

I guess what I prefer is a sort of image of two people debating civilly over coffee, as opposed to more abrasive conflict that has a lot of bad energy.

posted August 16, 2012 08:53 AM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
fair enough. there is an excess of abrasive/competitive energy everywhere these days, i have no desire to stir it up!

...i think you are doing a fine job here, my two cents!

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aww thanks

posted August 16, 2012 09:34 AM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
fair enough. there is an excess of abrasive/competitive energy everywhere these days, i have no desire to stir it up!

...i think you are doing a fine job here, my two cents!

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