posted November 27, 2013 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I am bothering by insults. Whatever her name is has insulted me too much in just one post. I think my reaction is normal, don't you think? My reaction has nothing to do with being mature or not. I'm not Jesus to turn the other cheek and let myself being insulted and bullied by people who don't know me.

Here is the part that I find offensive:

Well, it was never really about any immaturity but her own. Rosalind obviously has a bug up her anus about the very idea that tragedy or just mundane problems might not exactly destroy your life, that you could actually get on with it, and that's why she starting screaming (her usual) that either you're lying, you're naive, or you don't know what your talking about, or, my personal favorite, you're GENERALISING, another thing she does a lot of.

I NEVER used such horrible words. And she or he has no right to use them to insult ME. I'm immature? Check this lady/ gentleman. I rather be immature than have no education.

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posted November 27, 2013 03:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Yes. I want to know who has Saturn in 7th house or 4th house. That is important too for people who should marry later. One case I know is Johnny Depp. He married young and divorced three years later. He had many ladies as domestic partners but no other marriage. His Saturn is in 7th and the ruler of this house is Uranus in 1st. Now, people with Uranus in 1st are in the need of freedom and space and when young they are emotionally unstable and tend to marry young. In Johnny's case, the reason why he didnt get married again is probably because he has seen that first experience as a great failure. Can happen. A divorce can change one's mind about a second marriage. And with Uranus in 1st he is clinging to his freedom like its the last thing of his existence. Often, when Saturn is in 7th and the native rushes things before its time, later he will make the CHOICE to not getting married again and his chart will look like he has an empty 7th house yelling: HEY, I married and divorced, I don't need such experience EVER again.
Now, people with an empty 7th house have the CHOICE to marry or not while with Saturn, after 29 it will MAKE the native to wish of getting married. Only if the marriage occurs after 29.

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Getting married after 29 give no guarantees you will be together forever. My ex and I both have Saturn in 7th and we married after our saturn return.

We had a great marriage and are still close friends. But we split up 15 years later when Saturn came back across our ASCs.

There are no guarantees in life.

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Originally posted by jjj:
Everyone with Saturn/Venus stressful natal aspect (I have sat/venus opp and empty 7th house with Saturn as ruler) I know has divorced sooner or later, men or women, some after long marriages (mine lasted 15 yrs).

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posted November 27, 2013 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
You seem very sensitive. I see no horrible words but that's just me...Btw, why do you equal education to good manners?

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posted November 27, 2013 03:16 PM            

If people wait for their Saturn return to take on more responsibility, they might feel better prepared, more mature, thus handling it better.

posted November 27, 2013 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I am bothering by insults. Whatever her name is has insulted me too much in just one post. I think my reaction is normal, don't you think? My reaction has nothing to do with being mature or not. I'm not Jesus to turn the other cheek and let myself being insulted and bullied by people who don't know me.

Here is the part that I find offensive:

Well, it was never really about any immaturity but her own. Rosalind obviously has a bug up her anus about the very idea that tragedy or just mundane problems might not exactly destroy your life, that you could actually get on with it, and that's why she starting screaming (her usual) that either you're lying, you're naive, or you don't know what your talking about, or, my personal favorite, you're GENERALISING, another thing she does a lot of.

I NEVER used such horrible words. And she or he has no right to use them to insult ME. I'm immature? Check this lady/ gentleman. I rather be immature than have no education.

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But I used "anus"! How educated is that?

You show up here, lecture everyone, "help them" with your bizarre, sententious astro readings, and then flounce off again when things don't go your way. If you can't handle what people post in "your" threads, stay off the Internet.

posted November 27, 2013 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by MsPrism:
She's outright said "shuttup" to people in other threads.

She's rude too, she's just playing the victim now.

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No kidding. Is that so? Am I playing the victim? You being...?

posted November 27, 2013 03:29 PM            

This particular scenario can be avoided in the more mature couple who get together after they have had enough life experience to understand that their role is not to need a partner in order to feel good about themselves and safe from their fears, but to find a companion who truly accepts and supports their independent evolution throughout life with unconditional love. That is ... A love that is not conditional on the capacity of the other to meet expectations.

posted November 27, 2013 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by page one:
But I used "anus"! How educated is that?

You show up here, lecture everyone, "help them" with your bizarre, sententious astro readings, and then flounce off again when things don't go your way. If you can't handle what people post in "your" threads, stay off the Internet.

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posted November 27, 2013 03:38 PM            

Of course if a lot of people are saying "You're not very nice." It can't be true, it must be that you are better than them.

posted November 27, 2013 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
I wish I had understood Roslind's advice when I was younger. I understand now that it would have been better to marry after my saturn return because then my choice of partner would have been different. When I was young I was looking for someone who I could love because he could fill the gaps in me and make me feel complete. Later on I have learnt that there comes a time when you realize that no-one else can truly meet your expectations and the person who seemed to initially be able to do that cannot sustain it indefinitely. After saturn return you have more chance of forming relationships that are based on a firmer sense of self, and lower expectations from the other. In this way you are less likely to run into trouble over an "expectation loop" which keeps the couple locked in to finding ways to limit each others growth because they never learn to properly complete themselves and continue rely on each other to do so. More difficulties ensue when one (or both) decide the time has come to take ownership of their own "completion exercise" due to their dissatisfaction over the failure of the partner to adequately sustain their ability to meet expectations in this regard. This leaves the partner high and dry concerning their role in the relationship and either things fall apart or a stranglehold to retain control follows, effectively trapping the other in the previous status quo.

This particular scenario can be avoided in the more mature couple who get together after they have had enough life experience to understand that their role is not to need a partner in order to feel good about themselves and safe from their fears, but to find a companion who truly accepts and supports their independent evolution throughout life with unconditional love. That is ... A love that is not conditional on the capacity of the other to meet expectations.

There may be some young people who understand this, but I certainly was not one of them.

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When we are young we tend to take every opportunity that life give us . Go with the flow. Saturn is acting restrictive towards us but does that to PROTECT us. Saturn only wants us to learn to take things and do things at the right time, no sooner no later. To know what's good and what's bad to not have ourselves crushed.

posted November 27, 2013 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Wow. . .

Of course if a lot of people are saying "You're not very nice." It can't be true, it must be that you are better than them.

You said you're depressed. With this snarky attitude, I believe it.

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posted November 27, 2013 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by MsPrism:
As you are nobody to me.

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posted November 27, 2013 03:48 PM            

You are teaching me a great deal about lack of introspection. I appreciate it.

posted November 27, 2013 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by MsPrism:
I like conversing with people.

You are teaching me a great deal about lack of introspection. I appreciate it.

Thank you.

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posted November 27, 2013 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
And you think I'm depressed. Get a life.

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posted November 27, 2013 03:52 PM            

To everyone else that thinks a derailed argument like this one is entertaining and should be continued, and is ACTIVELY fueling it, grow up and let her be. You don't agree with her opinion and you've stated so, good for you. No need for personal insults with 'lol' in the end to mask the sting out of your words and your true intent (to ridicule her).

posted November 27, 2013 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Rosalind, Ms Prism is one of the nicest ones here. What do you think you will get out of alienating others? Why not try to make friends instead of enemies?

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posted November 27, 2013 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Rosalind, Ms Prism is one of the nicest ones here. What do you think you will get out of alienating others? Why not try to make friends instead of enemies?

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posted November 27, 2013 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Who is Ms Prism? I don't care how nice she is. I don't want to be friend with a person like her. In matter of friends I'm selective.

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