posted November 27, 2013 05:47 AM            

but honestly i will ask again, most people who read this are in their early 20's and reacated as if they are almost 'threatened' by what you wrote.

if you're in your 20's how is it possible at all that you know what goes with life when in the 30's.
For starters guys please don't underestimate what every extra day or month or year in life, will bring you in terms of knowledge and 'oh that's what it all meant' moments.

when i worked away, it was easy for me to get what i want, as all the managers were in there 50's and above, and let me tell u i hadn't missed how the extra 20-30 years in life they had more than me, meant they knew much more in how to deal with people and behave when they wanted to learn something, and also what they saw.

With marriage, i'll tell u in my early 20's i was idealistic and etc....these days i thank god for refusing all the guys that wanted to marry me....as now i know back then maybe i'd be happy in the moment, but none of them is what i really wanted.

also for settling....i think a guy in his 30's would definetly be more well established to start a family if he works and has saved and already is getting promotions etc...than someone in his 20's who is still making his presence felt at the work place, and who i think should be out having fun in any case (u knwo better he lives his life at 20 than 40, when with a kid and all)

so anyway no one is threatening anyone in their 20's or saying they are unfit....but we do get to know and more about ourselves and that mysterious things called life, after our Saturn return.

i know so many happy second marriages and they did happen in their 30's. on the other hand i do know one or two, married as college kids and they honestly seem happy, as they didn't see anything else (and i don't think that is a bad thing, if it is their destiny to live that way during this life time)

posted November 27, 2013 05:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
LOLOLOLOLLOL

Apparently here two types of Pisces, Dolphins and Whales.....
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001254.html

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LMFAO jk You do have seductive eyes and bouncy curly hair from what I saw.
but Neptune-Jupiter mixed with Pluto...
Total it-factor, everyone probably like who's..

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posted November 27, 2013 06:03 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Looks like Part 2 has just started....any popcorn left for me?

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posted November 27, 2013 06:13 AM            

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Originally posted by 23:
Oh FFS, it's the 7th NOW but in the olden days it was the 10th. I'm not disputing that marriage is the 7th NOW!! Now rack off.

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posted November 27, 2013 08:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
My two cents here:

A good and long lasting relationship requires two people with a sense of humour.
Preferably - a compatible sense of humour.

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I think this applies to any type of relation one has in life.

posted November 27, 2013 09:10 AM            

I think it's a good idea to wait until after the first Saturn return is over to think about getting married, if that's what you're inclined to do in the first place.

Obviously, there are a number of things that I know now that I didn't fully understand or wasn't willing to take into consideration when I was in my twenties. I didn't really get my life together until I turned 30.

I met my husband at 33, got married at 35, and had my son at 36. I'm thankful everything worked out the way it did, because it would have been a horrible failure if we had tried this 10 years ago.

We've had to grow together as people and learn how to compromise.

Although I know some things that I didn't know when I was younger (I think that goes without saying) I'm not going to sit here and patronize people who are younger than I am. People are entitled to their opinions, and everyone gets the opportunity to grow from experiences and learn along the way. It's not a privilege that only people over a certain age have.

Anyway, I think there are many viewpoints here that are valid (and even if I don't find them particularly valid, I'm not going to tell them how much more life experience I have than they do, because I'm not trying to live out my life as a cliche).

posted November 27, 2013 11:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:

Although I know some things that I didn't know when I was younger (I think that goes without saying) I'm not going to sit here and patronize people who are younger than I am. People are entitled to their opinions, and everyone gets the opportunity to grow from experiences and learn along the way. It's not a privilege that only people over a certain age have.

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posted November 27, 2013 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
the discussion was fine until kids started shoving down their opinion. i would love if this discussion gets moved to some mature forums because apparently immature minds can't handle it.

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posted November 27, 2013 11:46 AM            

But I think this is a wonderful topic and Rosalind got a GOOD point actually. I don't think you sound too aggressive but I know how it is because I have sun-conjunction-mars and opposite moon so when we really wan't to make people listen we got to really sharpen the tongue… do you have some aries influence Rosalind?

posted November 27, 2013 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:

Although I know some things that I didn't know when I was younger (I think that goes without saying) I'm not going to sit here and patronize people who are younger than I am. People are entitled to their opinions, and everyone gets the opportunity to grow from experiences and learn along the way. It's not a privilege that only people over a certain age have.

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Well, it was never really about any immaturity but her own. Rosalind obviously has a bug up her anus about the very idea that tragedy or just mundane problems might not exactly destroy your life, that you could actually get on with it, and that's why she starting screaming (her usual) that either you're lying, you're naive, or you don't know what your talking about, or, my personal favorite, you're GENERALISING, another thing she does a lot of.

I don't know why certain people are claiming a perfectly good thread was hijacked. By whom, herself? Very entertaining, though. I guess.

posted November 27, 2013 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows:
Rosalind, it's a shame this happened to your thread...

but honestly i will ask again, most people who read this are in their early 20's and reacated as if they are almost 'threatened' by what you wrote.

if you're in your 20's how is it possible at all that you know what goes with life when in the 30's.
For starters guys please don't underestimate what every extra day or month or year in life, will bring you in terms of knowledge and 'oh that's what it all meant' moments.

when i worked away, it was easy for me to get what i want, as all the managers were in there 50's and above, and let me tell u i hadn't missed how the extra 20-30 years in life they had more than me, meant they knew much more in how to deal with people and behave when they wanted to learn something, and also what they saw.

With marriage, i'll tell u in my early 20's i was idealistic and etc....these days i thank god for refusing all the guys that wanted to marry me....as now i know back then maybe i'd be happy in the moment, but none of them is what i really wanted.

also for settling....i think a guy in his 30's would definetly be more well established to start a family if he works and has saved and already is getting promotions etc...than someone in his 20's who is still making his presence felt at the work place, and who i think should be out having fun in any case (u knwo better he lives his life at 20 than 40, when with a kid and all)

so anyway no one is threatening anyone in their 20's or saying they are unfit....but we do get to know and more about ourselves and that mysterious things called life, after our Saturn return.

i know so many happy second marriages and they did happen in their 30's. on the other hand i do know one or two, married as college kids and they honestly seem happy, as they didn't see anything else (and i don't think that is a bad thing, if it is their destiny to live that way during this life time)

anyway i think you lot misunderstood where Rosalind is coming from, and not surprisingly given the age of most of the responders....good luck to you all, if this means so much to you

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posted November 27, 2013 12:30 PM            

Because age has nothing to do with maturity.

Nothing at all.

Marriage is a commitment that one makes to another person. No, you are not free. There is a good part of your so called ''freedom'' that you relinquished to the other person once you've agreed to make such a commitment. But there should be a mutual understanding that allows freedom of expression,and of evolution within the realms of the relationship that helps to strengthen this bond so as it can face the hardships of life. If one wants freedom, then a committed relationship is NOT what they should get into no matter how old they are. They are tons of people out there who are commitment phobic because they are scared of losing their freedom. Once you are in a committed relationship, the woman is the one who ends up most of the times to sacrifice herself for her family, for her children. This is what women do, out of love, out of responsibility towards their loved ones. If a woman is not ready to go through these motions, no matter how old she is, will end up resenting being in a committed relationship.

I agree, though, that young people have absolutely no clue what they get into when they sign up for an early marriage.It doesn't mean that all of them break up when they have to face the hard reality.

There is nothing more beautiful, more precious to me than to be blessed with the ability to grow old with the person I love.

posted November 27, 2013 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by page one:
Well, it was never really about other people having less experience than Rosalind. It was pretty clearly about her not actually doing much with her own experience, and other people actually growing up and dealing with their problems, instead of ranting at people that had the nerve to disagree with her that either they don't know what they're talking about, or they're lying, or, my personal favorite, they're *generalising*, which is exactly what she was doing the whole time.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I don't agree that people should marry after the age of 29.

Because age has nothing to do with maturity.

Nothing at all.

My opinion.

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Age = Time
Time = Saturn
Saturn = Maturity

You = .

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posted November 27, 2013 01:34 PM            

Any younger and it's bound it break, you don't need marriage to have a loving relationship.

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posted November 27, 2013 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
The divorce rate would be lower. I know what you are going to tell me. That compatibility play its role too. I 100% agree but from what I could see divorced people are usually people that got married before 29. Another thing that can be added is that people who marry their childhood sweetheart rarely stay together because people change in the other half of the life. People that marry young usually have Sun square Saturn and Moon square Saturn and these people usually have karma to solve before they get married. Usually this karma has to do with family. Parents to be more exact. There are other aspects that include Saturn but these two are just a few.
Now, what people don't seem to understand is that life is divided in two. First half is usually harder and challenging. The native has a lot of struggling and this is normal because its part of his growth process. But getting married isnt a good idea. Love is awesome and stuff but our mind is still young and what seems awesome is not always THAT awesome. In my opinion, love means to accept the person as it is and never change it into the other person wants to.
I always said I want to get married and have children but I always said also I want these things after the age of 29-30. I never wanted to get married young even though I could do that. I knew I wasn't mature enough and I also knew the right person didnt come yet.
What people younger that 29 need to learn is to have patience and listen to their guts.
Often infatuation is mistaken for love. Mature love doesn't come from the wish to change the other person or to have the expectation that everything is gonna go how we want. That's selfish.
I don't say, people after 29 are lowering their expectations and settle for less, I am just saying that these people see things in a different way. They have experience. They know what's good and what's bad for them. Agree or dissagree?

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Problem is, young people, generally, have no patience and do not want to wait. They worry all the good ones will be taken by the time they reach thirty.

posted November 27, 2013 02:01 PM            

There are more important things in the world to care about, poverty, the homeless, wordly & cultral knowledge, family, an earthy well-being, astrology etc.

There needs to be some order implemented on what people can and can't do, ecspecially in western society, all young marriage is doing is making another White Couple forget about the people in africa who can't afford to eat.

posted November 27, 2013 02:06 PM            

If no one got married and just kept it as a Natural relationship, using there love and trust for one another to bind them, and not a piece of paper putting legal issues into there relationship, then they could donate there money to charities.

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Natal Ophiuchus Sun, Capricorn Moon, Scorp asc.

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posted November 27, 2013 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Get a life and go to hell. You don't even know me. How dare you talking about me like that? Nobody asked you to post in my thread.

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Rosalind!! I'm trying to follow you here because I think you make good points about the Saturn return and all, but really you have to realize how you're contradicting yourself talking about age and maturity & yet you're displaying otherwise. Please don't get harsh with me now because I'm not attacking you! Simply trying to convey to you how you are coming off as the less mature one. I know you don't think so, but I'm just telling you that's how it appears to everyone else.

Frankly, the back & forth made this thread entertaining sure, but now it's just getting ridiculous. Its a public forum, the only unwanted posts should be those from 'trolls'! But right now you almost seem like the troll in your own thread. - again just an observation not an attack, don't stone me!

But really, the last few posts were right back on topic and instead you chose to use your latest post for really choice words towards someone. Take a breather for a sec! Its your thread, so take control of it again, respond to the topic - whether it's differing opinions or the same - and that's a start...no more hijacking of your thread!

posted November 27, 2013 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yes, Rosalind. You are letting the posts bother you too much. Everyone is going to have their own opinion, including you. Some will agree with you, others won't. There's no point in getting so wound up
I know you are a Cancer sun and can take things personally. I can too. I have a Cancer MC.

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I am bothering by insults. Whatever her name is has insulted me too much in just one post. I think my reaction is normal, don't you think? My reaction has nothing to do with being mature or not. I'm not Jesus to turn the other cheek and let myself being insulted and bullied by people who don't know me.

Here is the part that I find offensive:

Well, it was never really about any immaturity but her own. Rosalind obviously has a bug up her anus about the very idea that tragedy or just mundane problems might not exactly destroy your life, that you could actually get on with it, and that's why she starting screaming (her usual) that either you're lying, you're naive, or you don't know what your talking about, or, my personal favorite, you're GENERALISING, another thing she does a lot of.