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Topic: If people would marry after the age of 29
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Kerosene
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posted November 27, 2013 03:57 PM
  
Ironic how you can call her sad while you basically told muddy that her love and marriage is a joke simply because she got married before 29 lol.. She has every right to defend her relationship with her husband yet I found muddy to be very civil in that argument.As an astrologer you should know that people choose to express their love in different manners. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted November 27, 2013 03:58 PM
Let's just take a moment to appreciate this wonderful reply, here... shall we. quote:
Originally posted by Taineberry:
I wish I had understood Roslind's advice when I was younger. I understand now that it would have been better to marry after my saturn return because then my choice of partner would have been different. When I was young I was looking for someone who I could love because he could fill the gaps in me and make me feel complete. Later on I have learnt that there comes a time when you realize that no-one else can truly meet your expectations and the person who seemed to initially be able to do that cannot sustain it indefinitely. After saturn return you have more chance of forming relationships that are based on a firmer sense of self, and lower expectations from the other. In this way you are less likely to run into trouble over an "expectation loop" which keeps the couple locked in to finding ways to limit each others growth because they never learn to properly complete themselves and continue rely on each other to do so. More difficulties ensue when one (or both) decide the time has come to take ownership of their own "completion exercise" due to their dissatisfaction over the failure of the partner to adequately sustain their ability to meet expectations in this regard. This leaves the partner high and dry concerning their role in the relationship and either things fall apart or a stranglehold to retain control follows, effectively trapping the other in the previous status quo. This particular scenario can be avoided in the more mature couple who get together after they have had enough life experience to understand that their role is not to need a partner in order to feel good about themselves and safe from their fears, but to find a companion who truly accepts and supports their independent evolution throughout life with unconditional love. That is ... A love that is not conditional on the capacity of the other to meet expectations.
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Rosalind
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posted November 27, 2013 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
[b]Rosalind, please take the high road here, as some people, no matter how old or mature they think they are, are not going to agree to disagree. Also, you're coming across agressive and moody, especially because you're only replying to the disguised insults, instead of focusing on the posts that are about astrology.To everyone else that thinks a derailed argument like this one is entertaining and should be continued, and is ACTIVELY fueling it, grow up and let her be. You don't agree with her opinion and you've stated so, good for you. No need for personal insults with 'lol' in the end to mask the sting out of your words and your true intent (to ridicule her). No one who is in this ludicrous showdown is or will be on the right. Let go of this and move on.[/B]
The road of astrology is long gone. Not my fault. I've been attacked? I attack back. I'm a Scorpio ASC more than a Cancer Sun and Mars is well placed in 3rd house. I have a sharp mind that goes well with a sharp tongue. If people want me to aprove them all and be nice, they got the wrong person.
I have been nice. I have contributed a lot on this forum. To have people like Ms Prism and the other lady to come and insult me. Why? Because they can't stand the truth. I am not the one who invented astrology and Saturn rules. I just came with the facts. No matter what people think about me as a person ( agressive, moody whatever) they cannot say I'm not right. Everything I say its the truth. Astrologically speaking I am accurate.
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MsPrism
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posted November 27, 2013 04:03 PM
Sometimes it takes something like marriage to teach someone valuable lessons. Maybe Saturn's lesson IS getting married young for some. Just because something might not last, does not mean it doesn't have worth.IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted November 27, 2013 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Ironic how you can call her sad while you basically told muddy that her love and marriage is a joke simply because she got married before 29 lol.. She has every right to defend her relationship with her husband yet I found muddy to be very civil in that argument.As an astrologer you should know that people choose to express their love in different manners.
Astrology is a science created by the mind. Its not an emotion. So... I don't see your point. I didnt say love is joke. I said there is a different kind of love. Something more like infatuation. Or are you gonna tell me you found your true love at age 18? Thats impossible. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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From: Sun, Mars, Venus, Saturn - depends on the occasion and the company
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posted November 27, 2013 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
The road of astrology is long gone. Not my fault. I've been attacked? I attack back. I'm a Scorpio ASC more than a Cancer Sun and Mars is well placed in 3rd house. I have a sharp mind that goes well with a sharp tongue. If people want me to aprove them all and be nice, they got the wrong person.
I have been nice. I have contributed a lot on this forum. To have people like Ms Prism and the other lady to come and insult me. Why? Because they can't stand the truth. I am not the one who invented astrology and Saturn rules. I just came with the facts. No matter what people think about me as a person ( agressive, moody whatever) they cannot say I'm not right. Everything I say its the truth. Astrologically speaking I am accurate.
I'm not saying you don't have a point, Rosalind, I am ASKING you to ignore the insults. Be the bigger person here. LET GO. I understand your response to the way some people have been acting, even if I don't agree with it. Let's go back to astrology, come on... You have much knowledge to offer and a new point of view is always refreshing. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted November 27, 2013 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
I'm not saying you don't have a point, Rosalind, I am ASKING you to ignore the insults. Be the bigger person here. LET GO.I understand your response to the way some people have been acting, even if I don't agree with it. Let's go back to astrology, come on... You have much knowledge to offer and a new point of view is always refreshing.
Why should I waste my time with people who don't appreciate my work? Takes me at least 45 minutes to analyze a chart! How many people can read a chart accurately? Ask Ms Prism or the other lady for knownledge. I'm not willing to give any. I'm mature and wise to give up and leave when I see I'm not wanted. Simple as daylight. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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From: Sun, Mars, Venus, Saturn - depends on the occasion and the company
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 27, 2013 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Why should I waste my time with people who don't appreciate my work? Takes me at least 45 minutes to analyze a chart! How many people can read a chart accurately? Ask Ms Prism or the other lady for knownledge. I'm not willing to give any.I'm mature and wise to give up and leave when I see I'm not wanted. Simple as daylight.
Hey, don't be like that. You've read charts for me and for a friend and I - let me reiterate that, I - appreciate the time and effort you put in to it. I want you to tell me what you think as an astrologer. I will take what you say in and give you feedback on my own thoughts, withough insult, snarkness or 'lol's at the end of a sentence to soften the blow. Come on, I'm asking you now to tell me what else you think I should know about Solar Returns and relationships in general. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 27, 2013 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
The road of astrology is long gone. Not my fault. I've been attacked? I attack back. I'm a Scorpio ASC more than a Cancer Sun and Mars is well placed in 3rd house. I have a sharp mind that goes well with a sharp tongue. If people want me to aprove them all and be nice, they got the wrong person.
I have been nice. I have contributed a lot on this forum. To have people like Ms Prism and the other lady to come and insult me. Why? Because they can't stand the truth. I am not the one who invented astrology and Saturn rules. I just came with the facts. No matter what people think about me as a person ( agressive, moody whatever) they cannot say I'm not right. Everything I say its the truth. Astrologically speaking I am accurate.
You forget astrology is not an exact science and it is subject to the same scrutiny as any other. So if someone wants to say one thing, it's just as valid as someone saying another. Just because it's been written in a book 5,000,000,0000 times does not mean it cannot be modified. Modifications are a fact of life and you are free to modify if you see the need.
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Rosalind
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posted November 27, 2013 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rosalind:
[b] The road of astrology is long gone. Not my fault. I've been attacked? I attack back. I'm a Scorpio ASC more than a Cancer Sun and Mars is well placed in 3rd house. I have a sharp mind that goes well with a sharp tongue. If people want me to aprove them all and be nice, they got the wrong person.
I have been nice. I have contributed a lot on this forum. To have people like Ms Prism and the other lady to come and insult me. Why? Because they can't stand the truth. I am not the one who invented astrology and Saturn rules. I just came with the facts. No matter what people think about me as a person ( agressive, moody whatever) they cannot say I'm not right. Everything I say its the truth. Astrologically speaking I am accurate.
You forget astrology is not an exact science and it is subject to the same scrutiny as any other. So if someone wants to say one thing, it's just as valid as someone saying another. Just because it's been written in a book 5,000,000,0000 times does not mean it cannot be modified. Modifications are a fact of life and you are free to modify if you see the need.[/B][/QUOTE]So... what are you trying to tell me is that what a natal chart says about one's destiny can be modified? By whom? Astrology IS an exact science. Otherwise why would be in need of math?
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filleaspirant
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From: Sun, Mars, Venus, Saturn - depends on the occasion and the company
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 27, 2013 04:25 PM
Rosalind, tell me what else you think I should know about Solar Returns and relationships in general.IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted November 27, 2013 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
[b]Rosalind, tell me what else you think I should know about Solar Returns and relationships in general.[/B]
Solar Returns never seemed to work for me so I can't say they are accurate. I rather do tarot if I want to know the future.
As for the relationships... Composite and synastry are important. If synastry has no planets on the angles and composite does, the relationship will work in a romantic way that can lead to marriage. For anything else as friendship is better to have Uranus and 11th house well aspected and NOT on the 7th or 4th house.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 27, 2013 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
So... what are you trying to tell me is that what a natal chart says about one's destiny can be modified? By whom? Astrology IS an exact science. Otherwise why would be in need of math?
By the astrologer. Yes, it can be modified by each astrologer who reads it. That is correct and this what you do not wish to admit  IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows
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posted November 27, 2013 04:42 PM
OMG, okay that is the sign of 'maturity' that you lot gang up on the person who started this thread, when it is clear that the subject was about a Saturn return?well that showed her...the 'maturity' that is pouring from here. Rosalind please ignore half of those 'pack mentality' "humanatarians" over here, and i'm going to go tell Randall about this thread, as more than one of you 'responders' has crossed the line...specifically whomever it was with that 'up her an*s' unacceptable remark..... honestly shame on half you and the way you guys responded!  Rosalind please know not everyone on this forum looks like this pack mentality lot here did to you, and i do appreciate how much time you share on the personal readings forum,and half of us with real world awareness are aware of how different life is where you are at from our more privileged western side countries.  now onto finding the guy who keeps this forum, and let me tell u he doens't keep for these kinds of interactions at all!...this isn't in the spirit of Linda Goodman one least bit, may her soul rest in peace! IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted November 27, 2013 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
By the astrologer. Yes, it can be modified by each astrologer who reads it. That is correct and this what you do not wish to admit
By the astrologer you mean... YOU because no other astrologer would do that. Told ya yesterday... changing the rules of astrology isnt a wise move.
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VenusDiSirius
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posted November 27, 2013 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Astrology IS an exact science. Otherwise why would be in need of math?
To do calculations. Which is an abstract process. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted November 27, 2013 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
To do calculations. Which is an abstract process.
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VenusDiSirius
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posted November 27, 2013 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Exactly.
The process being the opposite of an empirical, quantitative process, measuring... Which is what you need in order to call a discipline exact. IP: Logged |
MsPrism
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posted November 27, 2013 04:49 PM
Very well said.IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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From: Sun, Mars, Venus, Saturn - depends on the occasion and the company
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posted November 27, 2013 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
The process being the opposite of an empirical, quantitative process, measuring... Which is what you need in order to call a discipline exact.
Sorry, but if you delve into theoretical mathmatics, you'll see that nothing is exactly EXACT. For instance, the number pi can be calculate to anyone's exhaustion and it still won't end: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi... Even Exact Sciences have come to terms that it cannot always be exact. Exactness is pretty much something we use to arrive at a consensus. Like we are supposed to be doing in this thread right now. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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From: Sun, Mars, Venus, Saturn - depends on the occasion and the company
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posted November 27, 2013 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Solar Returns never seemed to work for me so I can't say they are accurate. I rather do tarot if I want to know the future.
As for the relationships... Composite and synastry are important. If synastry has no planets on the angles and composite does, the relationship will work in a romantic way that can lead to marriage. For anything else as friendship is better to have Uranus and 11th house well aspected and NOT on the 7th or 4th house.
Then, can Saturn Returns change how a person relates to other people in general? Like, change their own view on how to treat people and what they want out of their interpersonal relations? IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted November 27, 2013 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Sorry, but if you delve into theoretical mathmatics, you'll see that nothing is exactly EXACT. For instance, the number pi can be calculate to anyone's exhaustion and it still won't end: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
And no one can claim that the sun will rise the next morning with certainty. Please, be so kind and address Rosalind's premise.
Does your input change the fact that astrology cannot be measured?
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 27, 2013 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
By the astrologer you mean... YOU because no other astrologer would do that. Told ya yesterday... changing the rules of astrology isnt a wise move.
I meant all astrologers. We are not enemies, you know? I am not talking about the calculations, I am referring to the reading of the chart. However, each astrologer makes their own choices, like, what house system to use. It changes the cusps of the houses, the degrees, in some cases. It's up to the astrologer to decide which one they like the most and you either agree or disagree. Everyone gets to choose but it doesn't make one person right, everyone else wrong. People have their own reasons for deciding. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted November 27, 2013 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Then, can Saturn Returns change how a person relates to other people in general? Like, change their own view on how to treat people and what they want out of their interpersonal relations?
Saturn returns are different from Solars. Saturn return is about changing cycles. Entering in a new a new stage of life. One can have SR anytime in his life and see no MAJOR changes in himself. Usually SR are more about external factors not internal. Job, relationships, relocation, events in general. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted November 27, 2013 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I meant all astrologers. We are not enemies, you know?
We are not friends either. IP: Logged |
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