posted December 09, 2016 11:41 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
*grabs popcorn*

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posted December 10, 2016 03:45 AM              

Some LIbras are loyal, some ain`t.

posted December 10, 2016 08:37 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
None of these applied in my case. I'm not in the mood to talk about it, though. I never once tried to take advantage, I wasn't nasty, I didn't do anything. It happened out of nowhere, and she took no responsibility for what she did, or how things got to where they were. I haven't trusted her since.

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Is it possible she was speaking that way in order to get the other party to open up?

I've been surrounded by leebs my entire life - and I do notice they sway in specific verbiage depending on the company. Kinda like a, "fit in as needed to blend in" type survivor skill..

posted December 10, 2016 08:57 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Much too simplistic.

Some LIbras are loyal, some ain`t.

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Astrologically speaking, we can analyze someone's natal chart for complex factors in their early life and upbringing explaining for social and emotional challenges such as the inability to be or stay loyal in relationships, if that be the case. Since the Sun sign does not a chart make, there will never be a simple astrological explanation behind a behavioral pattern such as loyalty.

As for all of us noticing over time that we tend to clash with certain Sun signs, this is a result of our own chart and the lessons in there, rather than the positive vs negative traits of the other's Sun sign.

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posted December 10, 2016 09:23 AM            

Scorpio, for example, is a very loyal sign. However, the emotional demands are too much for my touch-and-go personality. I don't clash with this sign either, we click with right off the bat. I don't don't allow too much of a connection.

posted December 10, 2016 09:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
I do not clash with Libras, that is why they were abundant in my early life. However, I noticed what the OP noticed and it left me underwhelmed.

Scorpio, for example, is a very loyal sign. However, the emotional demands are too much for my touch-and-go personality. I don't clash with this sign either, we click with right off the bat. I don't don't allow too much of a connection.

It's the same with Libra. We bond quickly, but I keep my guard up because I've been there with them.

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posted December 10, 2016 11:12 AM            

BUT they are not your ride and die chick because they are also ruled by fairness and Justice.

What that means is, don't expect them to follow you blindly in your little unjust biased and manipulative wars just because they are your friends.

I find that Cancerian types are the main offenders when it comes to using others to fight wars for them. It's that outer shell Cancer crabby uses to protect itself against the world. and of Course, Cancerian types will truly dislike Libras because they can't be emotionally manipulated to fight someone on the Cancerian principle that the enemies of my friends are my enemies.

So I would say that Libras are loyal to a HIGHER principle. They will fight tooth and nail for you IF they think your cause is fair and just. Otherwise, don't count on them.

If that's disloyalty in your book, then I would say that most Libras are okay with losing your friendship. Libras are charming and usually manage to make all kinds of friends and they will replace you pretty quickly.

posted December 10, 2016 11:52 AM            

Cannot not agree with Belage. `
Like, every time!

posted December 10, 2016 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
I'm Libra Sun/Moon/Mars and I'm very loyal to the people I care about and those who deserve it. Hell, I'll go down fighting on your side even if the odds are against us and we're outnumbered.

Say whatever you want, but you can't pin all your negative experiences on one general sign. That's just silly.

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posted December 10, 2016 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
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Cannot not agree with Belage. `
Like, every time!

I do have a Libra Venus and my Sun is in my 7th , and while i am loyal to my people, i do not take their side in an argument if I dont agree with their stance, and also - I usually go with the underdog, whoever that happen to be.

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Makes sense.

Disclaimer: I have moon and Mercury in Libra.

posted December 10, 2016 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Libras are loyal.

BUT they are not your ride and die chick because they are also ruled by fairness and Justice.

What that means is, don't expect them to follow you blindly in your little unjust biased and manipulative wars just because they are your friends.

I find that Cancerian types are the main offenders when it comes to using others to fight wars for them. It's that outer shell Cancer crabby uses to protect itself against the world. and of Course, Cancerian types will truly dislike Libras because they can't be emotionally manipulated to fight someone on the Cancerian principle that the enemies of my friends are my enemies.

So I would say that Libras are loyal to a HIGHER principle. They will fight tooth and nail for you IF they think your cause is fair and just. Otherwise, don't count on them.

If that's disloyalty in your book, then I would say that most Libras are okay with losing your friendship. Libras are charming and usually manage to make all kinds of friends and they will replace you pretty quickly.

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Nope, that wasn't my problem. It was what Nine mentioned. It's only happened with one person, though, and I think we were both going through a hard time. I know that I was.

posted December 10, 2016 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
That aside, thinking you know all Libras based on this one Libra is incredibly stupid. I cringe when I see people do that because of the people who dismiss astrology as stupid for "dividing people into 12 types when people are more complex than that." I try to explain that astrology isn't that simple and astrologers know better, and then someone who believes in astrology shows that for that astrologer, it is, and it just endorses the view of nonbelievers that we who believe in astrology are idiots.

It's not just sun sign, it's also the houses, and also the background because astrology is more potential, and the upbringing and such has a lot to do with how a person turns out. This is why Linda Goodman had a lot of advice on how to raise kids based on astrology so that their positive sides came out instead of the negative ones.

And if you have consistently bad experiences with a certain placement, then I'd say look to your own chart to know the reason why.

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posted December 10, 2016 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Nope, that wasn't my problem. It was what Nine mentioned. It's only happened with one person, though, and I think we were both going through a hard time. I know that I was.

Aries s all about fairness and justice, too. At least I am.

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Teasel, I was not talking to or about you in particular.

The topic of Libra and loyalty has been brought up quite a few times on this forum, and I have usually kept my mouth shut for a variety of reason. I think sometimes Libra feel that defending itself is below her...

Today, I just felt like saying something and setting the record straight because I know what loyalty means to Libra. And I understand that for water signs, loyalty may mean something different.

posted December 10, 2016 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is her Moon. The Moon is the main factor in loyalty questions, imo

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Dont know,know only of her sun sign

posted December 10, 2016 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Libras are loyal.

BUT they are not your ride and die chick because they are also ruled by fairness and Justice.

What that means is, don't expect them to follow you blindly in your little unjust biased and manipulative wars just because they are your friends.

I find that Cancerian types are the main offenders when it comes to using others to fight wars for them. It's that outer shell Cancer crabby uses to protect itself against the world. and of Course, Cancerian types will truly dislike Libras because they can't be emotionally manipulated to fight someone on the Cancerian principle that the enemies of my friends are my enemies.

So I would say that Libras are loyal to a HIGHER principle. They will fight tooth and nail for you IF they think your cause is fair and just. Otherwise, don't count on them.

If that's disloyalty in your book, then I would say that most Libras are okay with losing your friendship. Libras are charming and usually manage to make all kinds of friends and they will replace you pretty quickly.

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You see i dont like people that replace ''friends'' that easily ,then they dont really have friend - i have had MAJOR problems with people i consider my friends and i never left any hanging,even though they did so many wrong things to me,i am loyal to those times that we had it good in our friendship and i allways think i owe them that much to let them have flaws before dismissing them for small things i dont agree with.

posted December 10, 2016 05:08 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I agree it's super biased and ridiculous.

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posted December 10, 2016 05:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Teasel, I was not talking to or about you in particular.

The topic of Libra and loyalty has been brought up quite a few times on this forum, and I have usually kept my mouth shut for a variety of reason. I think sometimes Libra feel that defending itself is below her...

Today, I just felt like saying something and setting the record straight because I know what loyalty means to Libra. And I understand that for water signs, loyalty may mean something different.

Besides, Jupiter is now in Libra, so THE FORCE is with Libra.

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posted December 10, 2016 05:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Hemilla:
Ofcourse its biased,it is rooted on personal experience,if you dont agree with it fine,i dont know yall

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Exactly!

Many logical arguments presented why Libra shouldn't be branded, disloyal. However, experience trumps logic every time.