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Hemilla
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posted December 09, 2016 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a friend atleast

Soooo,where to start..

Backstory

My mother is a gemini ,her close friend she has for years is,you guessed it,a libra - they hanged out for ages,sence i was a kid,this libra was allways in our house,like constantly,and she still is - but i have noticed recently how fast she dismisses friendship with my mother - my mother was bickered with my grandmother and my granny was complaining to Libra woman, saying ''she is your friend and all...'' and as soon as my grandmother said that,that libra was like '' We are not really friends...'' and i am like '' bih what? ''

Listen i am a gemini,i know when you have to play the clueless and act all brand new ,but this is not ok - 23 years of ''hanging out'' and you easily dismiss it ?

This libra disapointed me,i expected more from one LIBRA ,tsk,tsk,tsssk

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Ami Anne
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posted December 09, 2016 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is her Moon. The Moon is the main factor in loyalty questions, imo

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posted December 09, 2016 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't had a lot of experience with Libras but I've had a lot of experience with Libra Moons and Ascendant. One thing I can say is that they are the first sign to NOT trust in my catalog (with the expection of my Scorpio stellium friend). They are so flaky and flighty...

One of my friends with Libra Moon and Ascendant has compulsive lying issues. She is so worried about making people mad that she lies to everyone about everything, even if it is some of the stupidest **** to lie over. I found out that she had lied to me about things she did with my sister, and now I can probably never trust her ever again. She also makes things needlessly complicated not only by lying over these stupid things, but also by doing the stupidest things I've ever seen. I just can't deal with that kind of crap.

She's also a Taurus Sun, so she's a triple Venusian individual. Not my cup of tea :P

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posted December 09, 2016 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatedCinderella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All libras I KNOW - not saying is every libra in the world - aint loyals,no even my married friend (she is a woman).

She used to betray her current husband with her ex husband.My other married friend (man) cheated his wife multiple times..I know other 2 libras who betray too.I don't understand why though..

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Ann7
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posted December 09, 2016 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never had a problem with libra. My issues have been with Gemini moons (not saying they are all bad). The ones I've dealt with have been sneaky, two faced and a tad on the selfish side.

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posted December 09, 2016 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio moons coming in second - however I don't know if two faced is the right description. If they don't like you or are threatened by you, they will silently plot your demise and then attempt to go through with their plan.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 09, 2016 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FatedCinderella:
All libras I KNOW - not saying is every libra in the world - aint loyals,no even my married friend (she is a woman).

She used to betray her current husband with her ex husband.My other married friend (man) cheated his wife multiple times..I know other 2 libras who betray too.I don't understand why though..



This is interesting, FC. Are we talking Sun here?

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posted December 09, 2016 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we all have our own version of loyalty based on our passed experiences and what we deem as right and wrong. Especially circumstances. If you take an outsiders perspective and not someone you know well there will be misunderstandings. Go ahead and stay ignorant. Im a Libra and I fight the Libra cause! Also I am petty and if Im mad at someone that I don't see very often I can dismiss them as a friend on like fb or something but as soon as they stop being an ******* Ill add thm right back and we can continue on good terms. Treating each other well.

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posted December 09, 2016 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatedCinderella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

This is interesting, FC. Are we talking Sun here?



Yes.Libra sun!I should check their moon,venus etc but I'm so lazy lol

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posted December 09, 2016 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is her Moon. The Moon is the main factor in loyalty questions, imo


I don't even think the moon is enough to tell if someone is loyal, I think aspects to the moon as well, and to the venus of course...

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Ami Anne
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posted December 09, 2016 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YEA, Neptune. You got a good point but I would start with the Moon!

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posted December 09, 2016 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are there other planets that could account for it?
In synastry.
Example.
Ami is well known for not trusting Libra moons but has a cancer moon herself, which squares by sign. Therefore, I think it speaks for itself that they would have different values. That's really what this comes down to.

Not that one is good, or bad.
One doesn't understand the other. Perfectly normal.

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posted December 09, 2016 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DannyCappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
Are there other planets that could account for it?
In synastry.
Example.
Ami is well known for not trusting Libra moons but has a cancer moon herself, which squares by sign. Therefore, I think it speaks for itself that they would have different values. That's really what this comes down to.

Not that one is good, or bad.
One doesn't understand the other. Perfectly normal.


Do you mean in romance or friendship?
In romance I don't think synastry is the problem.Some people claim to be madly in love but yet they betray! Some just seek adventure continuously.

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posted December 09, 2016 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hemilla:
As a friend atleast

Soooo,where to start..

Backstory

My mother is a gemini ,her close friend she has for years is,you guessed it,a libra - they hanged out for ages,sence i was a kid,this libra was allways in our house,like constantly,and she still is - but i have noticed recently how fast she dismisses friendship with my mother - my mother was bickered with my grandmother and my granny was complaining to Libra woman, saying ''she is your friend and all...'' and as soon as my grandmother said that,that libra was like '' We are not really friends...'' and i am like '' bih what? ''

Listen i am a gemini,i know when you have to play the clueless and act all brand new ,but this is not ok - 23 years of ''hanging out'' and you easily dismiss it ?

This libra disapointed me,i expected more from one LIBRA ,tsk,tsk,tsssk


I think that Libra always tries to be neutral in everything and that can come off as them being "disloyal" as they never pick sides or show a particular loyalty to any one thing.

This "fence sitting" can have some repercussions as they may end up drawing people away from them-which is opposite of their intent.

I think they don't like to make decisions or have have clear bonds.Which is what makes them get on with other air signs- because air signs are not demanding and will not make a fuss if their attention is divided between them and others.

One Libra I knew was telling me of a hard time he went through to which I said" oh bud, you should have told me. I would have been able to be of assistance to you"

He answered; "but I don't think of you as my friend". And I thought "Ouch!!" because it cut me quick and I said "Well, I guess I am mistaken about the nature of our relationship then. Sorry" And I haven't talked to him since.

I don't think its disloyalty per se, but I think Libra never wants to burn any bridge or sideline anyone.

So everyone is their mate but no-one really knows whom Libra's "best" mate is.Kinda like Aquarius.

I experience this with a Scorpio Sun/Libra Moon too. Not exactly the most decisive of people at all am afraid. The same was true of a Scorpio/Gemini Moon with Venus/Mars in Libra.

I think your Mom (being air herself)will likely brush this off. Air signs can be unemotional about this stuff.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 09, 2016 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
Are there other planets that could account for it?
In synastry.
Example.
Ami is well known for not trusting Libra moons but has a cancer moon herself, which squares by sign. Therefore, I think it speaks for itself that they would have different values. That's really what this comes down to.

Not that one is good, or bad.
One doesn't understand the other. Perfectly normal.



My upshot to all my study on the Moons is that loyalty is perceived differently by each set of moons, so you have to be close to people who see it as YOU do.

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posted December 09, 2016 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha Libras are naturally on ecstasy

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posted December 09, 2016 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

My upshot to all my study on the Moons is that loyalty is perceived differently by each set of moons, so you have to be close to people who see it as YOU do.



I can agree with this.

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posted December 09, 2016 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to duck out though before the fighting starts.

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posted December 09, 2016 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra is the archetypal fair-weather friend. They are decisive when it comes to dumping a friend in need. Their loyalty runs as deep as the amount of fun they are having.

I grew up around this sign. They are pathological liars, very, very argumentative. Users and manipulators. Fake. Combative.

In my many years of working it is the Libra who I've noticed is universally hated in the workplace, never openly. Though still hated.

They are almost always in conflict with their housemates. The LOVE power struggles.

While all signs are capable of lying, it is the Libra who suffers the most from pathological lying.

Strengths - they know how to behave in social situations, and have a good time.

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posted December 09, 2016 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Libra is the archetypal fair-weather friend. They are decisive when it comes to dumping a friend in need. Their loyalty runs as deep as the amount of fun they are having.

I grew up around this sign. They are pathological liars, very, very argumentative. Users and manipulators. Fake. Combative.

In my many years of working it is the Libra who I've noticed is universally hated in the workplace, never openly. Though still hated.

They are almost always in conflict with their housemates. The LOVE power struggles.

While all signs are capable of lying, it is the Libra who suffers the most from pathological lying.

Strengths - they know how to behave in social situations, and have a good time.



Very interesting, Nine. Thank you

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posted December 09, 2016 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm Libra Sun/Moon/Mars and I'm very loyal to the people I care about and those who deserve it. Hell, I'll go down fighting on your side even if the odds are against us and we're outnumbered.

Say whatever you want, but you can't pin all your negative experiences on one general sign. That's just silly.

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posted December 09, 2016 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
I'm Libra Sun/Moon/Mars and I'm very loyal to the people I care about and those who deserve it. Hell, I'll go down fighting on your side even if the odds are against us and we're outnumbered.

Say whatever you want, but you can't pin all your negative experiences on one general sign. That's just silly.


Yup, silly.

Good experiences with the many Libra suns and Libra moons in my family. I do not consider them disloyal at all. No divorces from them, for example.

Father and both grandfathers - Libra suns
Husband - Libra moon
Son - Libra sun
Sister-in-law: Libra sun, moon & stellium
Other sister-in-law: Libra moon

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posted December 09, 2016 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Libra Moons. I gravitate towards those with a Sadge sun, and usually Venus in Scorpio.

I've had one betrayal by a Libra sun.

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posted December 09, 2016 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra suns seem loyal, but sometimes they probably have virgo or scorpio placements.

Libra ASC in my experience is... well okay. I think they mean well, like someone above said, by being neutral.

But the two Libra ASCs I know are also Leo suns. I find its best to take a neutral stance with them also, otherwise they just switch off if you get too intense/irate (in their eyes).

I think the problem is that I'm not sure they're very good at putting themselves in other people's shoes though unless they have some water and earth in their chart. They're good at seeing both sides of the problem, but empathy isn't something they would consider because its a logical air sign. This can be good in certain situations of course (see, now I'm trying to do the same ahaha).

Also, if its a Libra ASC check what they're Venus is doing. One of the ones I know is a Virgo Venus and I believe is loyal.
The other has a Cancer Venus sextile saturn. Again, I don't think they would ever cheat in romantic relationships. But they can come across as totally ungrateful sometimes. And probably don't overthink their emotions too much.

Having said that, and I probably sound like I'm slating them, but depending on the situation are skills that I wish I had sometimes!! To just detach a bit!

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posted December 09, 2016 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ann7:
I've never had a problem with libra. My issues have been with Gemini moons (not saying they are all bad). The ones I've dealt with have been sneaky, two faced and a tad on the selfish side.

I'm not good at being sneaky, and don't like it. I tried it once, for a bit of fun last year, and felt so bad I couldn't sleep. I didn't hurt anyone, I just couldn't take being dishonest.

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