posted December 16, 2016 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
i think that what sometimes people say as Neutral has different reading from how i see. for me, neutral is not the one that see an elefant abusing a mouse and not taking side, that is not neutrality, but lack of care. Neutrality is not taking side based on biases or emotional attachement. for instance, the elefant may be your best friend, but he is abusing the poor mouse. are you going to be LOYAL to your friend or to JUSTICE? a pure libra will choose justice.

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I agree. An unevolved Libra would side with the friend but pretend that everything was operating under the guise of "justice", but a truly evolved Libra would put aside their personal biases and seek an objective truth.

posted December 17, 2016 03:19 AM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
I agree. An unevolved Libra would side with the friend but pretend that everything was operating under the guise of "justice", but a truly evolved Libra would put aside their personal biases and seek an objective truth.

For those that encounter unevolved Libras, the above quote can illustrate the situation well with them

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but it can also mean (for those finding libra not loyal) that the expectation of the person are more toward unconditional support and accuse libra of not being there for them. Libra may be acting in a pure JUST manner, but the person is perceiving him-her as unloyal because is not taking their side. I would say, if you want a most objective opionion you can find, go to Libra (a pure libra not necearily someone with a placement in Libra, but someone who own the libra energy). it may not be the opionion the person want, but justice is not about pleasing someone but taking into account the facts and the benefit of all involved.

posted December 17, 2016 03:36 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
but it can also mean (for those finding libra not loyal) that the expectation of the person are more toward unconditional support and accuse libra of not being there for them. Libra may be acting in a pure JUST manner, but the person is perceiving him-her as unloyal because is not taking their side. I would say, if you want a most objective opionion you can find, go to Libra (a pure libra not necearily someone with a placement in Libra, but someone who own the libra energy). it may not be the opionion the person want, but justice is not about pleasing someone but taking into account the facts and the benefit of all involved.

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posted December 17, 2016 10:18 AM            

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but it can also mean (for those finding libra not loyal) that the expectation of the person are more toward unconditional support and accuse libra of not being there for them. Libra may be acting in a pure JUST manner, but the person is perceiving him-her as unloyal because is not taking their side. I would say, if you want a most objective opionion you can find, go to Libra (a pure libra not necearily someone with a placement in Libra, but someone who own the libra energy). it may not be the opionion the person want, but justice is not about pleasing someone but taking into account the facts and the benefit of all involved.

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posted December 17, 2016 11:11 AM            

Debate:

"Libra is Satanic" versus "Libra is not Satanic"....

This prompts a real discussion?

posted December 17, 2016 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Here's is Libra's issue.. fairness. It shouldn't be an issue at all, yet it comes off that way the few that don't gel with this energy.

When there is a conflict, Libra will not choose sides.
It's honorable in their minds, because they truly, genuinely want peace.

The problem is that this means that issues that could've been healthily worked out via conflict... now get swept under the rug. Hostility will fester. It's only a matter of time until things blow up again, but Libra wants the path of least resistance.

Libra is the type to be cordial to everyone in the office, even the people they can't stand, because they understand the value in social politics. Others find this spineless. It just depends what side of the coin you're on.

Libra is cunning - infamously the iron fist in the velvet glove. It's Saturn exalted, it's the embodiment of the Major Arcana's Justice card. It's unyielding, which can be perceived as cold. It's neutral, which can be perceived as fickle. It's "fairness", taken to the 100th degree, which can be seen as fake. Especially if you have strong Jupiter/Martian/Aries/Uranian energy.

Just depends where you land energetically on the astrological scale.

"If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality."

^^^^^ If that quote resonates with you, Libra isn't your cup of tea.

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I like this comment, though.

In my opinion, as a Capricorn, thinking of the times I've clashed with Libras, it's hard for me to hand them the gavel and say "Ok I trust you to be the judge."

posted December 17, 2016 11:21 AM              

is that libra rules the abs, capricorn rules the knees, capricorn is more based on its stance on life, while abs are more about the "core" being, and thus the "balance".

posted December 17, 2016 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
What I add that is of interest ^^ which also gives insight to the question posted just now,

is that libra rules the abs, capricorn rules the knees, capricorn is more based on its stance on life, while abs are more about the "core" being, and thus the "balance".

Aries rules the head, and I believe they could possibly be known as thinkers.

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Oh yes

Aries *thinks* while:

Libra does crunches
Cap gets knee replacement surgery, tends to ligament injuries
Pisces get pedicures

posted December 17, 2016 11:45 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
but it can also mean (for those finding libra not loyal) that the expectation of the person are more toward unconditional support and accuse libra of not being there for them. Libra may be acting in a pure JUST manner, but the person is perceiving him-her as unloyal because is not taking their side. I would say, if you want a most objective opionion you can find, go to Libra (a pure libra not necearily someone with a placement in Libra, but someone who own the libra energy). it may not be the opionion the person want, but justice is not about pleasing someone but taking into account the facts and the benefit of all involved.

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posted December 17, 2016 12:36 PM            

Soren what is the Acronym you mentioned that is in Libra?

posted December 17, 2016 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
I clash with Aquarius. I get along with Libra, just don't trust them or consider them loyal people. However, I find that Aquarius would give a far more objective opinion than a Libra. Why, because sometimes people are flat wrong. Some people are flat bullies. Some people are flat users. Encouraging a person to take a "L" because it would make you feel better is not being objective.

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posted December 17, 2016 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
i also learned a lot because Jupiter IMB is my dominant (outlet easily), and it's in 7th (libra).

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posted December 17, 2016 01:13 PM              

I thought it must be my outlet planet in 7th making me see the balance to much.

Maybe to them, it's not that there isn't balance, but they just don't focus on it, such as saying a square is really bad, maybe they don't see the balance and merely focus on how there is conflicts, and not enough libra to notice that those conflicts can still rise to further appreciation during/after the conflict,

posted December 17, 2016 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
i was wondering maybe that's why some people could think one aspect is bad, or a placement, merely because they don't have libra in their charts to see that there is balance everywhere.

I thought it must be my outlet planet in 7th making me see the balance to much.

Maybe to them, it's not that there isn't balance, but they just don't focus on it, such as saying a square is really bad, maybe they don't see the balance and merely focus on how there is conflicts, and not enough libra to notice that those conflicts can still rise to further appreciation during/after the conflict,

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