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Topic: Libra aint loyal
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Belage
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posted December 13, 2016 05:06 PM
  
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
A Libra Moon here, with a strong Stellium in Sagittarius (SUN/MARS/MERCURY/VENUS/NN).I absolutely agree with you on this particular point, Belage. Satan, as both, a symbol and a myth, essentially derives his power from his ability to seamlessly blend in, from his perfect chameleonic nature and his capability to shapeshift. Satan, is, in truth, nameless and faceless and that is what makes such a powerful entity/figure/force. We believe that we know him but the truth of the matter is that we don't, for he is beyond our deciphering. In other words, he is too amorphous for us to fully grasp and define. We,classically, associate him with all that is 'Evil'. But what is evil exactly ? Who decides if something is evil or not ? If such things are defined by ethics and morals then what did those codes come from ? Religion ? What about way before that ? When you try to take morality out of the context of religion. Things became much more complicated. There are moral codes/values which we call universal due to the simple fact that we all agree upon them. Have you ever wondered why we do despite all of our religious/ideological, sometimes conflicting, differences ? Objectively speaking, was Lucifer/Satan truly 'evil' for refusing to submit to a higher authority (God), for wanting to be his own 'boss' so to speak ? Sorry for rambling lol this went way of course XD I'm doing a Master's Thesis on this so that's why I'm being weird. Btw, although I don't agree but I thank you Nine for such refreshing, interesting perspective on Libra. I never stumbled upon such information before.
Hear, hear!I am not worried about my open enemies. It's the hidden ones that will trip me the most.
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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted December 13, 2016 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Nine:
I'm actually not that familiar with Asteroids, sorry.What are the qualities of Eris?
It's currently being discussed in this topic http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236916.html
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Nine
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posted December 13, 2016 05:09 PM
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I am thinking about this Libra-7th house-Satan concept.
In tarot, Satan is depicted on the Devil card with the lovers chained to him, and to each other, and thus we get the basic interpretation of "unbreakable bonds". And thus this card is actually a good omen for commitment, partnerships, marriages, agreements. bearing in mind, "be careful what you wish for", e.g. make sure that the bond is one you want to be embroiled in.No where in the tarot is Satan a malevolent energy. How we interpret Satan will depend on which depiction we are drawing from. The Lovers, while ruled by Gemini in the tarot, always strike me as Libran - the coming together of opposing forces/energies (always felt that Gemini was a divided energy).
The Devil is ruled by Capricorn, however it features the Lovers in the depiction. Anyway, just food for thought. I do not feel that "Satan" is a negative energy, probably because I base my understanding of the concept on the pagan tarot. Libra rules partnerships, and the Devil represents unbreakable bonds - not exactly the same, but definitely related.
They're related for sure. This is why Saturn is exalted in Libra. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted December 13, 2016 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
It's currently being discussed in this topic http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236916.html
you could come over there if it's no bother
Thx. I'll check it ou. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted December 13, 2016 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Nine:
They're related for sure. This is why Saturn is exalted in Libra.
*slaps forehead* I can't believe I didn't realise this! Thank you Nine! IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode
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posted December 13, 2016 10:18 PM
Libras are the bomb! Sun in Libra, moon in Libra, Venus in Libra and Mars in Libra they are all awesome, Saturn in Libra too.IP: Logged |
CosmiqPhuz
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Registered: Jan 2014
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posted December 13, 2016 10:31 PM
If people wanna be prejudiced against Libras and call them fair-weather friends, they have the freedom to. This is kinda petty anyway. I've known my share of fair-weather friends who had no Libra at all in their chart. Satan is a Libra huh? Maybe I should join or start a death metal band. Hopefully you guys are right, because I want to be super dark and heavy. Rawrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted December 13, 2016 10:56 PM
I was just thinking of you Cosmiqphuz, I was thinking man this site could really use his humor right now.
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Electro DGX
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posted December 13, 2016 10:59 PM
You shouldn't trust Libras; they li about their bras. ------------------
Scorpio Ascendant
Aquarius Sun in 4th
Gemini Moon in 8th
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UrsusBlack
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posted December 13, 2016 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
You shouldn't trust Libras; they li about their bras.
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CosmiqPhuz
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posted December 13, 2016 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I was just thinking of you Cosmiqphuz, I was thinking man this site could really use his humor right now.
I was serious, Hypatia  I have a Cancer friend who "breaks up with me" a few times a year because he thinks I'm overcritical and don't have his back. He recently made a record of his solo music and shared it with everyone and anyone. He wants to be a rock star. It's not very good. To his face, they tell him it's good and then make fun of him behind his back. I told him gently that he needs to hone his craft and improve on certain things for when he does his next one. Then he points his finger at me as the disloyal and overcritical f*ck. There's friendship for ya. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
Moderator Posts: 12085
From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode
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posted December 13, 2016 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
I was serious, Hypatia
What I mean is that it would be cool if you start a new thread that revolves around humor. Libras have an awesome sense of humor and I need to laugh right now. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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From: Mars
Registered: Jul 2015
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posted December 13, 2016 11:26 PM
Hanging out with Libras is fun; they really know how to "tip the scales". ------------------
Scorpio Ascendant
Aquarius Sun in 4th
Gemini Moon in 8th
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CosmiqPhuz
Knowflake Posts: 749
From: INFP
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted December 13, 2016 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
What I mean is that it would be cool if you start a new thread that revolves around humor. Libras have an awesome sense of humor and I need to laugh right now.
Here you go: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236947.html IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted December 13, 2016 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
A Libra Moon here, with a strong Stellium in Sagittarius (SUN/MARS/MERCURY/VENUS/NN).I absolutely agree with you on this particular point, Belage. Satan, as both, a symbol and a myth, essentially derives his power from his ability to seamlessly blend in, from his perfect chameleonic nature and his capability to shapeshift. Satan, is, in truth, nameless and faceless and that is what makes such a powerful entity/figure/force. We believe that we know him but the truth of the matter is that we don't, for he is beyond our deciphering. In other words, he is too amorphous for us to fully grasp and define. We,classically, associate him with all that is 'Evil'. But what is evil exactly ? Who decides if something is evil or not ? If such things are defined by ethics and morals then what did those codes come from ? Religion ? What about way before that ? When you try to take morality out of the context of religion. Things became much more complicated. There are moral codes/values which we call universal due to the simple fact that we all agree upon them. Have you ever wondered why we do despite all of our religious/ideological, sometimes conflicting, differences ? Objectively speaking, was Lucifer/Satan truly 'evil' for refusing to submit to a higher authority (God), for wanting to be his own 'boss' so to speak ? Sorry for rambling lol this went way of course XD I'm doing a Master's Thesis on this so that's why I'm being weird. Btw, although I don't agree but I thank you Nine for such refreshing, interesting perspective on Libra. I never stumbled upon such information before.
Awesome commentary, I love that you are doing your thesis on Lucifer, pretty cool. On a lighter note, I watch that show Lucifer weekly, love it. "Objectively speaking, was Lucifer/Satan truly 'evil' for refusing to submit to a higher authority (God), for wanting to be his own 'boss' so to speak ?" Double  IP: Logged |
UrsusBlack
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posted December 13, 2016 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Hanging out with Libras is fun; they really know how to "tip the scales".
I love you. ------------------
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hypatia238
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From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode
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posted December 13, 2016 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Hanging out with Libras is fun; they really know how to "tip the scales".
ElectroDGX I love your sense of humor too. IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 2743
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posted December 14, 2016 12:35 AM
Libra moon and Mercury here.On second thought, I think Libra should embrace the perception that they are Satan and death. People LOVE that dark energy and they will inevitably think Libra are sexier for it, the same way they fetishized Scorpio. And they will RESPECT Libra more. The only thing, Scorpios are going to feel robbed of their danger aura. Sorry Scorpio. Step back! You're just an undertaker. Libras are the real badass of the Zodiac!  I want to thank Nine for revealing my sulfurous diabolical side to myself. Umm, I think I like it. It's exciting. Goodness is overrated.  IP: Logged |
CosmiqPhuz
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posted December 14, 2016 12:36 AM
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Originally posted by Belage:
Libra moon and Mercury here.On second thought, I think Libra should embrace the perception that they are Satan and death. People LOVE that dark energy and they will inevitably think Libra are sexier for it, the same way they fetishized Scorpio. And they will RESPECT Libra more. The only thing, Scorpios are going to feel robbed of their danger aura. Sorry Scorpio. Step back! You're just an undertaker. Libras are the real badass of the Zodiac!
F*ck yea! That's what I'm talking about!
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Belage
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posted December 14, 2016 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
F*ck yea! That's what I'm talking about!
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Belage
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posted December 14, 2016 01:24 AM
I am off to using my newly found satanic Libran powers to turn myself into the most beautiful and deadly woman I know. 
I've got a few men - and women- I need to ensnare in my quest for TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION. Bow down, b******* !! 
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Hemilla
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posted December 14, 2016 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Awesome commentary, I love that you are doing your thesis on Lucifer, pretty cool. On a lighter note, I watch that show Lucifer weekly, love it. "Objectively speaking, was Lucifer/Satan truly 'evil' for refusing to submit to a higher authority (God), for wanting to be his own 'boss' so to speak ?" Double
Nooo he just manipulated Adam and Eve knowing. What their punishment will be,and continued tricking humans in to horrible sins ever sense - what an angel -.-
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Hemilla
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From: State of mind
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posted December 14, 2016 05:26 AM
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Originally posted by DopGang:
Why didn't you just make it about your mum's friend then? Instead of labeling ALL Libras?
Kind of brought that upon yourself.
I'm just saying, if you generalize, you WILL get some crap for it.
I don't really care that you are pressed this much over over my topic title though,you can carry on with crying how everyone hates libras - whatevah
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Ceridwen
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posted December 14, 2016 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
You shouldn't trust Libras; they li about their bras.
 Brilliant! IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted December 14, 2016 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Hemilla:
Nooo he just manipulated Adam and Eve knowing. What their punishment will be,and continued tricking humans in to horrible sins ever sense - what an angel -.-
  Hmmm...maybe there is something to Libra as Satan after all...And btw, Satan didn't lie, and the punishment they endured was imposed upon them by a jealous, vindictive entity desiring worship as opposed to a natural consequence. The god of the Old Testament is a real ******* , and nothing a Libra would tolerate forever. I've certainly encountered some interesting theological interpretations about the entire Garden of Eden thing which are not mainstream, and makes it out to be closer to the story of the Matrix with Satan as Neo. Though my personal favorite was a group of Dianic Wiccans (not necessarily "mainstream" Dianic) that liked to celebrate Eve (in the mythical, symbolic sense) as a Prometheus like heroine for freeing us (or starting the battle) from tyranny and celebrated her by eating the apple (though it's known that the fruit in the supposed Garden was never identified, apples were still holy for other reasons). As best I recall, the sun signs of members were mostly of the fixed signs. IP: Logged |
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