posted December 09, 2016 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I'm not good at being sneaky, and don't like it. I tried it once, for a bit of fun last year, and felt so bad I couldn't sleep. I didn't hurt anyone, I just couldn't take being dishonest.

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posted December 09, 2016 06:35 PM            

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Originally posted by FruityLlama:
Libra suns seem loyal, but sometimes they probably have virgo or scorpio placements.

Libra ASC in my experience is... well okay. I think they mean well, like someone above said, by being neutral.

But the two Libra ASCs I know are also Leo suns. I find its best to take a neutral stance with them also, otherwise they just switch off if you get too intense/irate (in their eyes).

I think the problem is that I'm not sure they're very good at putting themselves in other people's shoes though unless they have some water and earth in their chart. They're good at seeing both sides of the problem, but empathy isn't something they would consider because its a logical air sign. This can be good in certain situations of course (see, now I'm trying to do the same ahaha).

Also, if its a Libra ASC check what they're Venus is doing. One of the ones I know is a Virgo Venus and I believe is loyal.
The other has a Cancer Venus sextile saturn. Again, I don't think they would ever cheat in romantic relationships. But they can come across as totally ungrateful sometimes. And probably don't overthink their emotions too much.

Having said that, and I probably sound like I'm slating them, but depending on the situation are skills that I wish I had sometimes!! To just detach a bit!

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posted December 09, 2016 06:36 PM            

It's not just sun sign, it's also the houses, and also the background because astrology is more potential, and the upbringing and such has a lot to do with how a person turns out. This is why Linda Goodman had a lot of advice on how to raise kids based on astrology so that their positive sides came out instead of the negative ones.

posted December 09, 2016 06:39 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
This is a new one. I've heard of Libra not being loyal before, but it's either because Libra is trying to be fair by refusing to be unfair in the friend's favor (and trying to see them from the POV of others), or because Libra is fake and spineless for sitting on the fance. (Then there are those who try to take advantage of Libra because they believe Libra are pushovers only to discover the iron fist in the velvet glove, and then they cry foul as their own attempted foul blows up in their faces.) Neither applies in this case because she said straight up they weren't friends.

Granted, I'm curious what this particular Libra was thinking. Acquaintance maybe? Who ARE her friends, in her mind?

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posted December 09, 2016 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ann7:
Again, not saying they are all bad. Oddly enough, for all of my not so positive experiences with gem moon- all of my best friends are gem suns.

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I know (re: the first part of your post).

posted December 09, 2016 06:50 PM            

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygKsam9KVaM

...has been my personal experience with Libras. Just when you think your relationship is watertight, Libra sets you straight.

posted December 09, 2016 07:17 PM              

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Originally posted by Ann7:
Scorpio moons coming in second - however I don't know if two faced is the right description. If they don't like you or are threatened by you, they will silently plot your demise and then attempt to go through with their plan.

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Oh heyyy.

It's been a long time since I saw someone trash Scorpio Moons on here and call us sneaky and vengeful. Good to know that we've maintained our lovely reputation.

posted December 09, 2016 07:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
It is not my chart.

Astrology would have us believe Libra is charm, grace, diplomacy, and conflict resolution. Venus, maybe. Libra, not automatically. Whenever a Libras is selfish, obnoxious, or combative some astrologers say; they are channeling the Aries opposition. <<<-- that is BS! Libra IS selfish, obnoxious, combative, and argumentative. Get to know them and you will see it.

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I know plenty, the good and the bad.

posted December 09, 2016 07:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
THIS!!
...has been my personal experience with Libras.

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posted December 09, 2016 07:32 PM            

However, and event occurred in my life where it was made painfully obvious that if I was ever in a position of need, Libra would not stick around. Libra is still poised, fashionable, and fun.

They're just not loyal.

posted December 09, 2016 07:33 PM              

The Leo influence of my actual Sun changes things. I am loyal, often to a fault. But, I really get the striving for balance. I also understand the inconsistent personality and sometimes acting on whims in relationships that could create conflict, intentionally or unintentionally.

I also think that Libra energy is so charming or likable or makes that person very "coveted" somehow that people sometimes assume the relationship between you and them means more than it actually does. But, the Libra person can also be at fault for trying to define their relationships too much. I have associates/acquaintances and then friends and then good friends and then my select two or three best friends. And I'm always kind of "classifying" people. Also, doing something "unethical" or "unfair" or that goes against my ideal of a relationship can put you in another category, often without you realizing it because I can do it indirectly or without telling you.

So, I think the Libra person can sort of have an unspoken part of the relationship where they feel dissatisfied or underwhelmed and they don't let you know. And then, it comes out in an inopportune way, when you realize you're not as close as you thought you were or there is trouble in paradise, which is surprising because the Libra has remained nice/polite/civil to you all this time.

Basically, there is a LOT of thinking when it comes to the Libra's relationships. And in spite of the yearning for balance, the only way the Libra person may actually feel balanced is to think about their relationship with you but not involve you in it. And this comes out in a way that could be interpreted as fickle because it seems like the dynamic has suddenly changed. But, sometimes, the person is just taking it more personally than they should because it often doesn't have to do with them and has to do with the Libra's ever-changing mind or ideals.

That's my .002 anyway.

posted December 09, 2016 07:35 PM            

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Oh heyyy.

It's been a long time since I saw someone trash Scorpio Moons on here and call us sneaky and vengeful. Good to know that we've maintained our lovely reputation.

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Hahahaha gemini moon has a sweet reputation too but I don't mind I know where people are coming from.We (I don't know if I should use the word WE) I get bored easily so that could be a problem if you don't think on others.Fortunaly or unfortunaly I have a crazy mind and my conscious doesn't let me sleep so no games or tricks for me!

I know a cheating libra guy.He probably lives the bad side of the sign when it comes to relationships but he is loyal as a friend.He seems to be a great father and he protected me when we worked together (he's much older than me).I like him very much! We have poor synastry but we get along pretty well.

I think we can live the good or the bad side is our choice.We just can't say the traits from the signs (good ones or bad ones) are set on a stone.You can't say "you are an aries sign and you automatically have ALL aries traits!!! It's not like that! That's why I think not even the best professional in astrology could guess someone else whole personality.
THE only person who can get your chart and go at the deepest part is YOU!! and God

posted December 09, 2016 07:40 PM            

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As said earlier, I grew up around Libras - 4 Libras. The dynamic has always been: I give, Libra receive. Libra was awesome; they are fun, easy to talk to, easy to party with, stylish.

However, and event occurred in my life where it was made painfully obvious that if I was ever in a position of need, Libra would not stick around. Libra is still poised, fashionable, and fun.

They're just not loyal.

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Listing 4 Libras I've been around:

One was not poised or fashionable. He reminds me of Hagrid from Harry Potter. He prefers the company of animals to people. He's very compassionate and had scars for standing up to villains on both sides of the law. The rest of his chart and his background explains why.

Libra 2 was poised, but was not fashionable beyond blending her colors well. She worked very hard for others, though she had moments where she'd "crash" and just had to be left alone. Again, the rest of her chart and background explain why to me.

Libra 3 I knew in high school, and she was poised and fashionable alright, but generally not that obnoxious and combative...save to me and mine (and she never pretended to be a friend in the first place). She really did not like me, but unlike other girls she made her dislike of me very clear, which I grudgingly liked about her (though I gave back what she dished out). I expect it was all the Sag in her chart that helped her be that way.

Libra 4 was an old man who was very negative. Though stuck up, his fashion, assuming he had any, was decades out of date. Now he was consistently obnoxious, combative, and selfish that almost lives up to your caricature of Libra (and last I heard of him, he stole the rent money of all tenants from the landlord he befriended, the only one he was kindly to, before disappearing). He and I did not get along at all, though as I was 19 I enjoyed trolling him as his outrage was so comical to me (unlike your caricature, he was almost never pleasant). I don't know anything about his chart other than his sun sign.

posted December 09, 2016 07:48 PM              

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Hahahaha gemini moon has a sweet reputation too but I don't mind I know where people are coming from.We (I don't know if I should use the word WE) I get bored easily so that could be a problem if you don't think on others.Fortunaly or unfortunaly I have a crazy mind and my conscious doesn't let me sleep so no games or tricks for me!

I know a cheating libra guy.He probably lives the bad side of the sign when it comes to relationships but he is loyal as a friend.He seems to be a great father and he protected me when we worked together (he's much older than me).I like him very much! We have poor synastry but we get along pretty well.

I think we can live the good or the bad side is our choice.We just can't say the traits from the signs (good ones or bad ones) are set on a stone.That's why I think not even the best professional in astrology could guess someone else whole personality.
THE only person who can get your chart and go at the deepest part is YOU!! and God

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Thanks! But, I know. I was really just joking. I didn't take any offense. After a few years of studying astrology and talking to people about it, I just accepted that Moon in Scorpio was seen as one of the most "cursed" and feared placements. So, I only find it funny now, whereas it did use to bother me a bit.

And yes, with that Moon placement, I definitely know a thing or two about balancing your light and dark side.

posted December 09, 2016 07:58 PM            

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Each one were distinct individuals. If I really thought astrology was as simple as you make it out to be, I'd reject it as idiotic.

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Thank you for this.

posted December 09, 2016 09:59 PM            

Now, I haven't actually experienced many Libra Suns that have done this, but I've known Libra Ascendants can be quite known for compulsive lying. They don't lie to just their significant others, they lie to EVERYBODY. You have to remember that the Libra Ascendant is essentially the opposite of the Aries Ascendant. Because of this, I like to say that it is in detriment. Their need to please people at all costs and avoid conflict can make things worse for them than need be, and that's what they need to learn to get over.

Now, while they have had serious issues with lying (which is why I find it difficult to trust them personally), they haven't abandoned me when I needed them most. This is for Libra Moons specifically; they have defended me on numerous occasions when other people were gossiping about me and have helped me out when I needed someone to talk to. One of them in particular though is a 12th house Libra Moon.

I will say that I can be prone to feeling used by them though; that's something that I've noticed. Often they will shower me with compliments in order to try to get me to hang out with them and then when I don't want to do what they want me to do, they tell me I can head home or whatever. It makes me feel like they just want me in order to have fun with them and not actually hang out as true friends should.

That's my take on Libra placements thus far. Perhaps it will change with time, perhaps not, but is just one side of the spectrum.

posted December 09, 2016 10:05 PM            

Libras square a lot of my placements, but I've never had a problem with them and to call them disloyal is ridiculous.

Here are all personal examples of loyalty with Libra placements:

My LIBRA Venus significant other is and has been nothing but loyal to me for over two years now. He was a player in the past but he always made his inentions known to the women, he needed to find the right one to settle down. If you are upset over being rejected by a Libra Venus, you weren't the right one.

My LIBRA sun great grandfather was married to my great grandmother for 53 years before he passed away and they had 12 children, nothing but loyalty there. He was also a very smart man, knew 6 languages and could read and write 5. Before he met My great Gma, he was in a relationship with a woman who cheated on him with his best friend. He was very kind to her and left her money because he did love her, but he could not stay with her. After that he made it a personal sacred belief never to be disloyal.

My LIBRA sun aunt, married her high school sweetheart. When he was hit by a semitruck and died, she vowed never to marry again because no one could ever replace him. They were together for 14 years.

posted December 09, 2016 10:57 PM            

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I've never had a problem with libra. My issues have been with Gemini moons (not saying they are all bad). The ones I've dealt with have been sneaky, two faced and a tad on the selfish side.

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posted December 09, 2016 11:26 PM            

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Haha Libras are naturally on ecstasy

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posted December 09, 2016 11:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
yup...i am a Gemini Moon

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Are you saying that you're sneaky and two-faced? I don't relate to that at all.

posted December 09, 2016 11:35 PM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Thanks! But, I know. I was really just joking. I didn't take any offense. After a few years of studying astrology and talking to people about it, I just accepted that Moon in Scorpio was seen as one of the most "cursed" and feared placements. So, I only find it funny now, whereas it did use to bother me a bit.

And yes, with that Moon placement, I definitely know a thing or two about balancing your light and dark side.

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