posted December 10, 2016 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Hemilla:
Ofcourse its biased,it is rooted on personal experience,if you dont agree with it fine,i dont know yall

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even if we were close friends I would not agree with you on this. You made an assumption based on one example, that is not even a pattern. There are 7 billion plus people in the world.

I understand you are upset at your mother's friend, I would be too but I would not blame it on her sun sign. At the very least I would look at her 11H ruler and 7H ruler which is the house of friendship and the house of relationships and check out its placements and aspects.

Further I don't know why your mom's friend said that either, we have only heard your side of the story, we would need your mom's side of the story and your mother's friend side of the story to get the whole picture. You have to wonder why she said that in the first place and what is their history.

Maybe you should clear the air with her and tell her that it really upset you to hear that the other day and give her the chance to explain herself if she wants.

posted December 10, 2016 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
even if we were close friends I would not agree with you on this. You made an assumption based on one example, that is not even a pattern. There are 7 billion plus people in the world.

I understand you are upset at your mother's friend, I would be too but I would not blame it on her sun sign. At the very least I would look at her 11H ruler and 7H ruler which is the house of friendship and the house of relationships and check out its placements and aspects.

Further I don't know why your mom's friend said that either, we have only heard your side of the story, we would need your mom's side of the story and your mother's friend side of the story to get the whole picture. You have to wonder why she said that in the first place and what is their history.

Maybe you should clear the air with her and tell her that it really upset you to hear that the other day and give her the chance to explain herself if she wants.

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The title says ''LIBRA '' without ''s'' o the end of it,so i was speaking of ONE LIBRA lol ,but as you can see i hav enoticed that other libras are flaky with friends too,libras i personaly know - i didnt say ALL LIBRAS ARE THIS OR THAT,I SAID LIBRA AINT LOYAL because this woman is libra and she aint loyal - but as i can see libras were actually called out for the same thing before (of wich i had no idea) so maybe,majority of those libras trully aint loyal in general...idk

posted December 10, 2016 06:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Teasel, I was not talking to or about you in particular.

The topic of Libra and loyalty has been brought up quite a few times on this forum, and I have usually kept my mouth shut for a variety of reason. I think sometimes Libra feel that defending itself is below her...

Today, I just felt like saying something and setting the record straight because I know what loyalty means to Libra. And I understand that for water sign, loyalty means something different.

Besides, Jupiter is now in Libra, so THE FORCE is with Libra.

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posted December 10, 2016 06:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Exactly!

Many logical arguments presented why Libra shouldn't be branded, disloyal. However, experience trumps logic every time.

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Not every time. Not every time.

posted December 10, 2016 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Belage:
[b] Teasel, I was not talking to or about you in particular.

The topic of Libra and loyalty has been brought up quite a few times on this forum, and I have usually kept my mouth shut for a variety of reason. I think sometimes Libra feel that defending itself is below her...

Today, I just felt like saying something and setting the record straight because I know what loyalty means to Libra. And I understand that for water sign, loyalty means something different.

Besides, Jupiter is now in Libra, so THE FORCE is with Libra.

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Ouch. If Libra is the ruler of your 12th house, you might have issue with this sign.

posted December 10, 2016 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Not every time. Not every time.

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Also, it's the experience of a few. A few don't represent all. I've not had these experiences with Libra and many haven't.
Again, people trapped in the idea that the way that they experience things is the only truth.

posted December 10, 2016 07:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
I love my 12H cusp sign.It is taurus

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posted December 10, 2016 11:45 PM            

I'm loyal to my friends and my family but loyalty doesn't mean behaving like a bot. If I think my friend did something wrong I'm going to tell them just that. I'm an individual with my own principles and I'm not going to stomp on them because the other person got it in their head to behave however. I expect the same honesty from my friends otherwise I can't feel secure in the friendship. It also complicates things in other ways and I always need to know that the other person is not hiding something from me, no matter the reason.

For example, if my friend A is fighting with someone and A is in the wrong, depending on what the mistake was, I will either tell them right there and then that they're wrong or I'm going to try and remove them from the fight and explain to them in private that I disagree with them.

It looks like some people want you to be on their side no matter what you've done. I have no respect or time to spare for that type of person, the person that demands you follow them blindly and put aside your feelings and/or reservations. And I don't want people to treat me that way either. Like I said, that's not a basis for an honest and stable relationship. You (should) want your friend's honest opinion and guidance when it's needed, to make you a better person, not a blind follower or a yes (wo)man.

posted December 11, 2016 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by scorpiogirl:
My Moon is in Libra and I'm a very loyal person. Because of it, not despite of it, by the way.

I'm loyal to my friends and my family but loyalty doesn't mean behaving like a bot. If I think my friend did something wrong I'm going to tell them just that. I'm an individual with my own principles and I'm not going to stomp on them because the other person got it in their head to behave however. I expect the same honesty from my friends otherwise I can't feel secure in the friendship. It also complicates things in other ways and I always need to know that the other person is not hiding something from me, no matter the reason.

For example, if my friend A is fighting with someone and A is in the wrong, depending on what the mistake was, I will either tell them right there and then that they're wrong or I'm going to try and remove them from the fight and explain to them in private that I disagree with them.

It looks like some people want you to be on their side no matter what you've done. I have no respect or time to spare for that type of person, the person that demands you follow them blindly and put aside your feelings and/or reservations. And I don't want people to treat me that way either. Like I said, that's not a basis for an honest and stable relationship. You (should) want your friend's honest opinion and guidance when it's needed, to make you a better person, not a blind follower or a yes (wo)man.

Lastly, Libra is the sign of Justice. Last time I checked, Justice was a good thing. Did something change in the meantime?

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You sound so similar to my moon in Libra best friend with mars in Scorpio but my other best friend with Moon in Libra and Mars in Aries is a bit different, she respects a lot individualism and that everyone can think however they like as long as people let her exercise that same freedom she will be cool with you, she is more open minded than the other and less judgy but she has Venus in Gemini and the other Venus in Virgo.

Omg I just realized both of my best friends have moon ruled by Venus, Venus ruled by Mercury and Mars at home. What a coincidence!

I butt heads more with the mars in Scorpio one bc it squares my Venus and Mars while the other one I get a long with ridiculously well but her mars trines my Venus and Mars and her Venus sextiles by sign my Venus and Mars and conjuncts my Chiron. I love her energy.

posted December 11, 2016 12:41 AM            

I hate the generalizations about Scorpios, as many of them are so inaccurate for me, so I'm going to attempt not to make any regarding the other signs. People are complex. We are made up by so many different factors.

posted December 11, 2016 12:46 AM            

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Originally posted by UrsusBlack:
I think we can agree that astrology is more complex than that. Otherwise, why are we all here? :S

I hate the generalizations about Scorpios, as many of them are so inaccurate for me, so I'm going to attempt not to make any regarding the other signs. People are complex. We are made up by so many different factors.

The Libra friends I have have been incredible.

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posted December 11, 2016 12:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Hemilla:
The title says ''LIBRA '' without ''s'' o the end of it,so i was speaking of ONE LIBRA lol ,but as you can see i hav enoticed that other libras are flaky with friends too,libras i personaly know - i didnt say ALL LIBRAS ARE THIS OR THAT,I SAID LIBRA AINT LOYAL because this woman is libra and she aint loyal - but as i can see libras were actually called out for the same thing before (of wich i had no idea) so maybe,majority of those libras trully aint loyal in general...idk

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If you weren't trying to put Libras under a bad light, why didn't you title it "Mom's friend ain't loyal"? C'mon, at least admit your prejudice.

It's like when someone has to point out somebody who wronged them is jewish or black. Why point it out?

posted December 11, 2016 12:58 AM              

Everyone's been wronged by someone, and when that happens, humans sometimes project their anger and rage on a certain sign, or whatever.

It's not the most moral, or ethical, thing to do, but it certainly is raw and normal reaction to being wronged.

posted December 11, 2016 12:59 AM            

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Lastly, Libra is the sign of Justice. Last time I checked, Justice was a good thing. Did something change in the meantime?

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Libra is also the sign of death, and Satan - with the understanding that Satan means adversary.

posted December 11, 2016 01:00 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
It would be awesome if you start a thread posting your chart and talk about in what ways you differ to certain Scorpio stereotypes and what aspects in your chart contribute to this.

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If that would interest people I'd love to. My journey with astrology is still in its infancy, so others' insights with regards to aspects are probably better explained by others. I will try my best however. (:

posted December 11, 2016 01:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Libra is also the sign of death, and Satan - with the understanding that Satan means adversary.

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No it's not; the sign of death is Scorpio. This is basic astrology; never once have I heard that Libra symbolized death or Satan absolutely anywhere.

posted December 11, 2016 01:45 AM            

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No it's not; the sign of death is Scorpio. This is basic astrology; never once have I heard that Libra symbolized death or Satan absolutely anywhere.

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No, no. Scorpio is the undertaker, the one who buries the dead. Libra is judge (justice), jury, and executioner. Libra does the killing.

Aries is when the Sun STRINGS to life. Libra is where the Sun goes to die, or FALLS to his death. It is in Libra when the trees and other vegetation - die. Scorpio takes their listless/dead bodies into the underworld.

posted December 11, 2016 01:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
No, no. Scorpio is the undertaker, the one who buries the dead. Libra is judge (justice), jury, and executioner. Libra does the killing.

Aries is when the Sun STRINGS to life. Libra is where the Sun goes to die, or FALLS to his death. It is in Libra when the trees and other vegetation - die. Scorpio takes their listless/dead bodies into the underworld.

Libra is the opposition in astrology. A Satan is an adversary, or opponent in theology.

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interesting!

posted December 11, 2016 03:54 AM              

And death with Scorpio and Pluto.

posted December 11, 2016 04:33 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You go girl!!

You sound so similar to my moon in Libra best friend with mars in Scorpio but my other best friend with Moon in Libra and Mars in Aries is a bit different, she respects a lot individualism and that everyone can think however they like as long as people let her exercise that same freedom she will be cool with you, she is more open minded than the other and less judgy but she has Venus in Gemini and the other Venus in Virgo.

Omg I just realized both of my best friends have moon ruled by Venus, Venus ruled by Mercury and Mars at home. What a coincidence!

I butt heads more with the mars in Scorpio one bc it squares my Venus and Mars while the other one I get a long with ridiculously well but her mars trines my Venus and Mars and her Venus sextiles by sign my Venus and Mars and conjuncts my Chiron. I love her energy.

They are both very loyal.

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