posted April 06, 2013 09:51 AM            

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Originally posted by T:
[b]Afghan Girl, 6, Rescued from Child Bride Fate; Countless Others not so Lucky http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/afghan-girl--6--rescue d-from-child-bride-fate--many-others-not-so-lucky-181725317.html

Disgusting. On the father and the other man's part. Though I still keep in mind that maybe it was another man that saved her from that fate. I have more faith in the opposite sex than that.

This kind of thing still goes on in this day and age. We in the western world often forget about it.[/B]

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There are cases even more terrible than this.

posted April 06, 2013 10:12 AM            

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Originally posted by starfairy:
My point that my views ARE colored by outside influences, and therefore our reactions to him are in combination with what he is saying here, with what he has been saying before. You have come in here with a completely clean slate, while a lot of people here (especially the people who have been here for a long time) already know his other views. He has made many of these types of threads before, so it's just one more opportunity to b*tch.

Regardless of the past, he has said many controversial things (like the 'no legitimate gripe' thing I said before), and a lot of what he wrote about wasn't even a gender issue. He framed it as a gender issue (comparing men's issues to women's issues), but it was really an economic issue. Why frame it like a gender issue, then? So, he went from saying men's issues should be taken seriously, to saying women don't have 'legitimate gripes', to talking about an economic issue. I'd argue that's remarkably INconsistent.

You say I haven't been focusing on his main message, which you say wasn't sexist. HOwever, he followed his original statement with disrespectful comments. You expect me to not to respond to those, or point out any logical inconsistencies? I don't get why you're so hung up on his first point, that you suggest I ignore his second, third, fourth, fifth, etc.. point?

I had a different reading of what DoomLord said. I thought he was implying that we're not given enough credit and are often disrespected despite the fact that we are 'good' enough to reach the same level? Perhaps they can clarify?

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You got the idea

Woman get the short end of the stick while not being any different in their work or skill.

An example, i seek a career in psychology which is a female-dominant field here.

After the long, hard 7-8 years path in which you end up being a psychologist woman start with low salaries (which is a problem when you want normal life) while men start from avarage salaries.

posted April 06, 2013 11:11 AM            

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'Not surprised they are backing each other~ it's a Mercury-Neptune echo chamber!

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It's just that, coincidentally, I have argued at length with both AGs in the past, and they both have this aspect.

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Neither ever budges.

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That's false as many here can attest. And please tell us all how often YOU budge since you wish to bring it up.

posted April 06, 2013 11:32 AM            

That some interesting chart you have there ^^
Very interesting placements

posted April 06, 2013 11:49 AM            

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My friend that I quoted was a bit like you when he was younger, but he learned to let a lot of stuff go and is happier for it.
He'll still stand up against injustice and can call someone on bs better than almost anyone else I know, but he's learned to moderate himself, to listen to others and begin true dialogues rather than state his position ad infinitum.

I think you'll get there, too, and you'll be a better advocate for your positions (many of which are valid).

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I also think he'll be better when he's older.

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And his comment about women crapping out babies just shows he has a marked lack of consideration towards women. I'm not even a woman and I found that offensive.

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Understand Aquarius.

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Even...the d-word...is often half-praise, and saying that someone has...testes...is nearly always positive.
Calling someone a p-word or c-word does not.

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I don't generally see it as praise. It could be...maybe in a regional sense, but it's generally derogatory. Yeah, testes are generally positive, that's true. Yeah, the 'd' word isn't as bad as the 'pu' or 'c' word. I agree with that.
I also agree that it's a strange thing overall.

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I mean...crap out a baby?
C'mon, man - that's not going to build bridges

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^^Understands Aquarius

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I have been trying to understand aquaguy91.

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I believe it.

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However each time he makes a crude remark like that I think what screwed his head and heart up so damn bad?

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I think it's Tennessee.

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He goes off half cocked anyhow or ignores things in his favor.
I do not think he is paying 100% attention.

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You're very likely correct. That's not unlike a young Aquarius.

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Explain how it was poorly constructed.

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Why? So you can ignore it like usual, because you'll allow nothing to penetrate your mindset that would inconvenience that mindset?

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Because Dick is a guy's name. It's relatively harmless. Like calling a girl a Betty.

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That is dumb. By and large, Richards don't call themselves Dick anymore.
We're talking about when a person gets called a dick. It is as harmless as calling anyone else by a genital's name. (It means virtually nothing to the person willing to ignore it.) The whole notion is ridiculous, but that doesn't stop some genital names from seeming worse than other genital's names.

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Just out of curiosity, how are men made to feel guilty about it?

Are you referring to how women are cautious?

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posted April 06, 2013 12:11 PM            

And I was just kidding about winning, sheesh!

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In general, Faith, I don't think you're a great debator.

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You're the one who defended aquaguy's 30+ posts or so at once, before doing any kind of "background check" on him. You didn't even know what you were talking about.

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And please tell us all how often YOU budge since you wish to bring it up.

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I don't usually budge for you, but I have for aquaguy...and many others.

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Why? So you can ignore it like usual, because you'll allow nothing to penetrate your mindset that would inconvenience that mindset?

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No, to prove you can. So you don't just get to allege I constructed something poorly without back up.

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That is dumb. By and large, Richards don't call themselves Dick anymore.

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posted April 06, 2013 12:14 PM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
@doomlord

Thanks. Yeah, I fear that here lately I'm not really revealing all of my personality. Being in these debates only tends to show one aspect. I am a long time member here, though, and there are thousands of posts that show me in more totality.

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I actually see a lot of mars in scorpio in your posts which is quite the pleasure to read.

But id love to see the less debating and more revealing posts

posted April 06, 2013 02:41 PM            

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Originally posted by prodigal:
I dont think people are equal. Some women are more valuable than men. Vice versa. Take aquaguy for example say he be auctioned to the ladies of lindaland how much would he fetch?

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People are never equal dear

posted April 06, 2013 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
There are cases even more terrible than this.

The state woman are at the middle east is a shame to humanity as a whole for doing and allowing such things to happen

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I know. Yes, shameful all around.

I wonder what would happen to the women, mothers who stood up, spoke up and tried to defend and protect (not to excuse them, but at this point, maybe many of them don't really know any better because of the way they were raised/brainwashed since birth or are simply too fearful of the repurcussions? and have been beat into submission already?)

murder, rape, torture? A combonation of all of them? Does a mother have many options or choices over there? Any hope of escape?

posted April 06, 2013 05:32 PM            

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Originally posted by prodigal:
I dont think people are equal. Some women are more valuable than men. Vice versa. Take aquaguy for example say he be auctioned to the ladies of lindaland how much would he fetch?

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posted April 06, 2013 05:36 PM            

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Originally posted by T:

..... I can only imagine how painful it would be not to be able to feel like you had the ability to protect your own child that you gave birth to. That alone is torture.....for the rest of your life and maybe more to come.

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posted April 06, 2013 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I think the bids would depend on how much plaid he's wearing on the auction stand, and whether or not the auctioneer gave him the mike and asked him about the suffragettes first.

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posted April 06, 2013 09:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I think the bids would depend on how much plaid he's wearing on the auction stand, and whether or not the auctioneer gave him the mike and asked him about the suffragettes first.

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dear god!

posted April 06, 2013 09:36 PM            

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dear god!

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posted April 06, 2013 09:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I can't even imagine it. I start trying to put myself in another mother's position, when her children are suffering or have suffered, and I start getting physically sick. I mean I am just so grateful my own kids are okay, and all I want in life is for them to remain okay.

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Yeah, pretty unimaginable and I'm not even a mom. I know i'd not be able to come back from some sick scenario like that though. Put a fork in me. I'd be done. Would not be able to be quiet about it or let my daughter be sold off for any reason especially to some dirty old man. I'd die first.

I know the child bride issue is something we don't hear enough about over here. Instead we have the msm feeding us a bunch of bs to keep our minds occupied on 'other things'.

posted April 06, 2013 10:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I forgot to factor in the length of his mullet.

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