posted September 25, 2020 08:54 AM            

With media solemnly spotlighting the passing of the 200,000 mark in deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the United States, a physicians assocation has a question.

"Why is the death rate about 75 percent lower in many countries?" asked Dr. Jane Orient, executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.

posted September 27, 2020 11:22 AM            

People are being urged to take a vitamin D supplement to reduce their risk of becoming infected with COVID-19.
Alexander J Martin
Saturday 26 September 2020

Patients with sufficient levels of vitamin D are less likely to experience complications and die from COVID-19, according to a new study in the US, while another has found it also reduces infection rates.

Vitamin D sufficiency was linked with a significantly decreased level of inflammatory markets, and higher blood levels of immune cells, in new research from Boston University's school of medicine.....

http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-vitamin-d-reduces-infection-and-impact-of-covid-19-studies-find-12081132

posted September 27, 2020 12:54 PM            

I googled Dr. Jane Orien and all I saw in mainstream media were ad hominem attacks against her.

posted September 27, 2020 10:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
@Jwhop, you know the information in your two previous posts will NEVER be mentioned in mainstream media.

I googled Dr. Jane Orien and all I saw in mainstream media were ad hominem attacks against her.

Mainstream media really prefers to keep people paralyzed with fear, muzzled with masks, angry and blaming Trump for the deaths, and waiting for the savior vaccine (but not one that Trump supports) to deliver them from lockdown misery.

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posted October 02, 2020 08:18 AM            

wish him speedy recovery
but more certainly,
he’s benched until election month

«A president’s health is a national-security issue. This is why he is surrounded by a massive security apparatus, including the Secret Service and the White House doctor; it is why people began speculating that nuclear command planes may have been dispatched shortly before the announcement of the positive test. Even during ordinary times, threats to the president’s safety can move markets and awaken armaments.»

Tuesday night’s debate: “I don’t wear masks like him,” Trump said of Biden. “Every time you see him, he’s got a mask. He could be speaking 200 feet away from me, and he shows up with the biggest mask I’ve ever seen.”

The next presidential debate is
less than 2 weeks away, sooner than
the standard 14-day quarantine period.

posted October 04, 2020 08:34 PM              

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
some arguments this is a scam
1. coding: many patients were coded as having the virus even without testing
1.1 for patients without comorbidities (as it is the case with many other viral infections) the threat is minimal because most of people do not need to get hospitalized.
2. cause of death. all patients testing positive or with symptoms of influence dying in hospitals were considered corona death regardless the comorbidities they had. i guess is ok to ask if you know the difference between "dying with the virus" and "dying because of corona virus"
3. in spite of the inflated death cases atributed to the virus, still the death rate is minimal to justify any lock-down
4. the same people representing the medical stablishment in US, UK and Germany were scaremonagering people with the swine flue and predicted million of deaths, which did not occur. so these people are the same (Fauci one of them) repleating the same song.

if these arguments do not convince you, i do not know what could.

just for the record: I am not republican, I do not live in US, I do not like Donald Trump. I do not believe in political parties.

So unlike you, I do not have any political bias toward this topic.

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Well said NordicSoul,

Like you, I don't like Trump and I don't identify with either political party. And rather than listening to mainstream media which since it's inception has had a bias to sell fear, drama, extremes, black and whites, because they long ago noted that it sells best (which = more profit for the mega corporations that own same)--I most listen to a combo of science and to my inner intuition.

To add a little to what you said in the above, one of those folks who was so off in scaremongering people about Swine Flu and other pathogens of the past, and then really went out and campaigned hard about Covid, and was part of the team who came up with the "2.2 Million to die!!!!"--one Neil Ferguson of the UK--is the same "scientist" who despite his powerful promotion of social distancing, lockdown, and masks, was caught red handed having his lover come over for some adult fun during the height of the panic and media scaremongering.

Problem is, his lover has a husband and children. And that meetup was soon after he thought he may have come into contact with it. Clearly he didn't really believe it was all that dangerous. If that's not one of the biggest case of hypocrisy, I don't know what is.

I wouldn't call it a full scam though. I would call it a moderately bad virus that is potentially dangerous to a narrow range of the population-i.e. particularly elderly folks with co-morbidity factors, and to a lesser extent, unusually unhealthy people with co-morbidity factors.

But here is the interesting thing about that. Japan literally has the highest elderly population percentage per their total population in the world. Japan is a relatively small island with a lot of people and not a lot of space. Japan never had a true and full shutdown because their constitution is wired differently than most--they basically gave out recommendations and suggestions to the people.

Yet, they have fared amazingly well. Why? Some might say "Masks!", "their culture is different and more collective and respectful!" or whatever makes them feel good about what media is telling them.

Well, China and many Chinese are far more mask wearing than Americans--in fact, many in the Wuhan area were already wearing masks pre-Covid outbreak because of air pollution. And while there are obviously differences between the Chinese and Japanese, they and their cultures are FAR more similar to each other then to American. And YET, they still had far more issues than the Japanese?

Why, because like Americans, they are far less healthy than the Japanese. And you're really telling me that all the Japanese in Tokyo and so many of those who use those immensely crowded trains completely stopped riding them?

This SHOULD be a wake up call to many nations about caring more about our everyday health. But locking up people at low risk for severe symptoms doesn't help that at all. It just hurts everyone else economically. Closing down gyms, beaches, parks, etc doesn't help people health wise.

The people who really need to be socially distancing and doing all those extra measures of safety and precaution, are those that are a higher risk, which again, is a pretty narrow range of the total population.

This is what humans have done since we had an inkling that infections can pass between people--we quarantined the sick and the most vulnerable from the rest of the population. Never in human history have we done the exact opposite, while causing untold damage to the livelihoods and economics of millions and millions of people globally, all in a vain effort, supposedly to suppress and "flatten the curve" of something that is bound to spread around no matter what we do or don't do.

Something is clearly rotten in Denmark, and it aint the fish. It's corruption in high places globally. This is an economic crack down/take over and test/experiment along the lines of the Milgram experiment. And as properties close down and people foreclose as is starting to and will increasingly happen, the already rich and powerful are buying them up at lowered prices. Same in the stock market. Same across the board where the rich benefit from the collapse of the middle class.

Aristotle observed so well a universal societal truth and pattern, "The best constitution is one controlled by a numerous middle class which stands between the rich and the poor. For those who possess the goods of fortune in moderation find it “easiest to obey the rule of reason” (Politics IV.11.1295b4–6). They are accordingly less apt than the rich or poor to act unjustly toward their fellow citizens."

And, "A constitution based on the middle class is the mean between the extremes of oligarchy (rule by the rich) and democracy (rule by the poor). “That the middle [constitution] is best is evident, for it is the freest from faction: where the middle class is numerous, there least occur factions and divisions among citizens” (IV.11.1296a7–9). The middle constitution is therefore both more stable and more just than oligarchy and democracy."

The middle class is all but disappearing so that the plutocrats can take over it all and re-covert it back into a system of Lordship over the lowly, poor serfdom.

posted October 07, 2020 07:49 PM            

Hanoi Jane says:

Biden Fundraiser Jane Fonda Says COVID-19 Is ‘God’s Gift to the Left’
Warner Todd Huston
7 Oct 2020