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Author Topic:   CDC: At Least 20 Million Americans Have Had Coronavirus.
Dhyana
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posted July 14, 2020 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Florida labs testing for Covid-19 reporting 100% positivity rate

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Countless labs have reported a 100 percent positivity rate, which means every single person tested was positive. Other labs had very high positivity rates. FOX 35 News found that testing sites like one local Centra Care reported that 83 people were tested and all tested positive. Then, NCF Diagnostics in Alachua reported 88 percent of tests were positive.

How could that be? FOX 35 News investigated these astronomical numbers, contacting every local location mentioned in the report.

The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent.


If this involved a few labs, it could be attributed to human error. But, judging by the number of labs involved, this has to be a coordinated effort. This is a perfect example of what is meant by "hoax."

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-florida-department-of-health-says-some-labs-have-not-reported-negative-covid-19-results

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posted July 14, 2020 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Yeah .. Last month or so, there were people within the system {I forgot which one} that came out to tell the public that they had been ASKED/directed to lie about figures.
.. Such a REAL shame!
The People don't deserve that!

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posted July 14, 2020 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:

Given that 2019-nCoV cannot even cause a sniffle in 78% of those it infects, the numbers of COVID-19 deaths must be bogus too. Could free money for COVID deaths have encourage nursing homes and hospitals to lie?


Yes and yes. The official definition of a Covid death is no matter what condition you had, if there is also a Covid positive diagnosis, then that is counted as a Covid death.

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posted July 14, 2020 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Also if there are so many Covid parties going around where people are getting together to see if they can catch Covid, where are the videos of those parties?

People videotape everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, the good, the bad, and the ugly! Yet, I have yet to come across the videos of those popular Covid parties. What? none of the partygoers have cell phones?

Videos! or it didn't happen!


I don't know where YOU live, but, law enforcement just caught ANOTHER deliberate Covid-gathering. Several police went around with cameras videotaping this gathering. They were in very cramped quarters, in a pub {I think?}.

I've seen other vids, too. They've BEEN showing them-- at least in Florida.

Yep! We got the Highest Covid marks the other day. TOPPED even other nations, all-by-itself!

I'm in the over 65 crowd now.
For a LONG time, people in my vicinity were acting as though it wasn't real!, during lockdown time. --- heh heh. NOW, we might have to start all over again... because of *them* interfering with making progress for ALL.

We are only as strong.. as our WEAKEST links.
Ruined the work of soo many others.
First responders had worked SOOO hard.

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Dhyana
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posted July 14, 2020 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
^ Yeah .. Last month or so, there were people within the system {I forgot which one} that came out to tell the public that they had been ASKED/directed to lie about figures.
.. Such a REAL shame!
The People don't deserve that!

I hope many more people within the system come forward as these did, who obviously have the public interest at heart.

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posted July 14, 2020 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Breaking News: They just found out that dozens of labs in Florida have been reporting 100 percent positives, and other labs have been reporting zero negatives. I'm not implying that this is deliberate, but it explains the surge. Orlando reported 98 percent positivity rate, but it was actually 9.4 percent. Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center reported 76 percent, but it was actually 6 percent. The Lee Memorial Hospital believes there is a problem with the state’s data gathering, because they reported accurately. Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice would say.

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posted July 15, 2020 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Covid-19 virus size ranges from 0.06 microns to 0.14 microns, average size is listed as 0.125 microns.

The N-95 mask is said to be the most effective mask for filtering out the covid-19 virus. The N-95 mask is said to be 95% effective in filtering particles down to the size of 0.3 microns. That means the virus is about 2.5 times smaller than the smallest particles the N-95 mask is designed to stop!

They have an answer for this apparent discrepancy. They say the N-95 mask is electrostatically charged and the fibers attract the virus.

They also say the virus is suspended in water droplets expelled by coughing, speaking or sneezing and those droplets are larger than 0.3 microns.

They say a lot of things about covid-19, much of which has proved to be NOT TRUE.

But most people aren't wearing N-95 masks in public. They're wearing masks made of cloth, paper..scarves, bandanas, coffee filters and other materials which are much more porous than 0.3 microns.

All these factors could be the reason many in the medical field say masks are ineffective against covid-19 viruses.

One thing I found interesting. An article I read said that vacuum cleaner bags are almost as effective a filter medium as surgical masks. But note, this chart is comparing materials effectiveness in filtering particles down to 1 micron in size. Coronavirus-19 is about 0.125 microns..8 times smaller than 1 micron!

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posted July 15, 2020 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.facebook.com/groups/500716313939425/permalink/575758323101890/

"Remember when Ohio was leading the corona virus fight and was a model for the country but then people threatened Dr. Acton and protested at her house with guns and then she resigned and now it’s spreading like wildfire and other states won’t let us in?
Good times."

We will be back in lockdown, in two weeks, if things keep going in this direction. Cheers once again, to those who insist on making things more difficult for the rest of us.

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posted July 15, 2020 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jwhop, excellent post. Thanks!

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posted July 15, 2020 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Jwhop! Great info!

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posted July 15, 2020 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/07/15/limbaugh-we-must-adapt-to-covid-like-the-donner-party-did-with-cannibalism/

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posted July 15, 2020 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The mask hysteria is rabid as the election approaches.

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posted July 16, 2020 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is an utter waste to wear cloth masks.
N95 or even Surgical Masks with Social Distancing will do the trick.

Also, Masks are primarily for Indoors with Central Air Conditioning Vents, or when communicating.

Constantly wearing masks lowers Oxygen Intake, which is again a danger to Immune Systems. That is the Key: Immunity Boosting. Nothing else ultimately matters.
Vaccines will not even be 40% effective, Big Pharma will scare public into taking Annual Shots etc. NO USE.

People must Oxygenate heavily through deep breathing outdoors at regular intervals [in sunlight].

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posted July 16, 2020 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/07/16/larry-hogan-trump-coronavirus/?arc404=true&fbclid=IwAR2BnR2zQiS6B9Pw8euNXKS0qZZB0elvMH7lmjKG22Z_kjNsEWYHUFPYZn4

From the GOP governor in Maryland, asking why trump didn’t help him to help his people.

I’m having trouble getting out of bed today, although I was rage-cleaning last night, because Ohio is now on a quarantine list for NYS. We were doing so well, then those armed ******** threatened Amy Acton, anti-semitism was part of the way she was treated, too - she dealt with that sh1t as she did her best to help us.

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posted July 16, 2020 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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As Virginia governor vows to ramp up COVID enforcement, state data continue to trend positive

At a notably grim press conference on Tuesday, Virginia Governor Ralph Northam delivered a dire warning to state residents, calling some of them "selfish" for allegedly violating his mask mandate, ordering businesses to refuse service to patrons without face coverings, threatening to strip the licenses of business owners who fail to comply with his orders, and promising to dispatch a small army of state regulators to enforce those directives. 

State data continue to show largely positive trends

Northam's grave, open-ended dictates and portentous warnings on Tuesday contrast sharply with the state's own coronavirus data, which continue for the most part to show largely positive epidemiological trends in Virginia: Deaths are the lowest they've been in four months, cases appear to have bottomed out in most parts of the state, and hospitals remain well within capacity to handle surges.


 

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/virginia-governor-vows-ramp-covid-enforcement-state-data-continue-show

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posted July 16, 2020 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
White House tells hospitals to bypass CDC on COVID-19 data reporting

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According to HHS, the goal is to streamline data collection, which will be used to inform decisions at the federal level such as allocation of supplies, treatments and other resources.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/507321-white-house-tells-hospitals-to-bypass-cdc-on-covid-data-reporting

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posted July 17, 2020 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Hospitals are to bypass CDC, then the fairest way is to post all cases in the public domain from their Websites, the allow programmers to Aggregate it.

Bypassing CDC and sending to a White House Controlled Authority is something of a Communist China Move as there will always be suspicion of rigging by those like Dan Scavino who hate Scientists.

CDC/WHO etc have had their failings but this overreaction seems more Putin Driven than Patriotism Driven. More Pandemics and Virus Releases are planned by the bad guys and the Novichok Crowd. CDC and WHO have some genuine Scientists who are indispensable under those circumstances.

There has to be a better way, perhaps increasing transparency in the CDC was the right way forward so that the Cabal Scientists could be forced out if caught fudging.

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posted July 17, 2020 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dr. Zev Zelenko, a hero

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God protect this fine Doctor. Dr. Zev Zelenko worked himself to exhaustion treating over 2,200 patients suspected of Covid19.

He saved all but two.


Rudy Giuliani

https://twitter.com/AKA_RealDirty

Dr. Zelenko did this while he himself had a heart condition that led to emergency heart surgery.


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posted July 17, 2020 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1284209505660801037

July 7th, Trump claims 2 to 2 and a half million American deaths was a reasonable number discussed earlier with his team.

But earlier he told 100,000 could occur, and they were controlling it to 60K level which itself was high.

Never forget that he said in March that there would be zero deaths, and that the Virus would magically disappear.

He has now sub-consciously seeded into the Minds of his Cult that 1.5 to 2 million American deaths is OK because 2.5 million was "Reasonable".

I am seriously worried now about the preparedness of Red States. They are where Italy was in March and Brazil in May, and we all know what happened after that.

The Mortality Rate is between 4% to 5% at best. Not 0.4%.

5-10 million each in Florida, Texas and Arizona might get infected as the public have been conditioned to consider this as just another Summer Flu. Overall, 50 million new infections will occur if the Lacuna continues into Winter.

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posted July 17, 2020 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@IQ

Sounds like the one who's been 'conditioned' is YOU!

Obviously, there's serious problems with reporting covid-19 cases and deaths. They've been grossly overstated. Of course President Trump wants these reporting errors...or, intentional, purposeful misreporting stopped.

It would be helpful is you stopped making shiiite up. And while you're at it, find yourself some credible sources. Twitter, on it's best day, is a total shiiite source.

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posted July 18, 2020 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Florida Health Officer Lables Motorcycle Crash Victim a Coronavirus Death
Kyle Morris
17 Jul 2020

An individual who was killed in a fatal motorcycle crash in Florida was recently listed as a COVID-19 death for the Sunshine State, according to a state health official......

http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/17/florida-he alth-officer-lables-motorcycle-crash-victim-a-coronavirus-death/

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posted July 18, 2020 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dr. Deborah Birx said 'there is nothing from the CDC that I can trust' in a White House coronavirus task force meeting

Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House's coronavirus task force response coordinator, blasted the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention during a discussion on COVID-19 data in a recent meeting, The Washington Post reported on Saturday.

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"There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust," she told CDC Director Robert Redfield, two people familiar with the meeting told the newspaper.

The Post reported that Birx and others feared that the CDC's data-tracking system was inflating coronavirus statistics like mortality rates and case numbers by up to 25%.

Birx later told The Post in a statement that "mortality is slowly declining each day."


https://www.businessinsider.com/deborah-birx-cdc-comments-coronavirus-task-force-meeting-2020-5

This could be, is likely, the reason the White House cut the CDC out of the loop on Covid case reporting.

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posted July 18, 2020 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My local county had reliable numbers until the tracking was taken over by the state beginning June. I don’t trust the stats anymore, especially since the definition of a positive was changed, and other suspect methods have since been employed. That these questionable numbers are being cited as cause and evidence for various political decisions is aggravating.

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Dhyana
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C.D.C. Labs Were Contaminated, Delaying Coronavirus Testing, Officials Say

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/health/cdc-coronavirus-lab-contamination-testing.html

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The CDC is now claiming its labs were contaminated which caused many false-positive Covid tests.

A convenient cover story for tests that were intended to inflate the number of positive results?


https://twitter.com/prayingmedic

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http://www.cnn.com/2020/07/18/health/texas-infants-coronavirus-trnd/index.html


85 infants under age 1 tested positive for coronavirus in one Texas county

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