posted January 14, 2021 12:06 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
[URL=http://www.today.com/health/children-apologize-spreading-covid-19-relatives-death-beds-officials-say-t205684?cid=sm_npd_td_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR0QiS_HtrKhH9WH2AHwZqBIOTFkTiNyul28l t2OZM]http://www.today.com/health/children-apologize-spreading-covid-19-relatives-death-beds-officials-say-t205684?cid=sm_npd_td_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR0QiS_HtrKhH9WH2AHwZqBIOTFkTiNyul28 lt2OZM[/URL] WNA94t-yzsZUUx888

This is one thing that we were warned about.

Children apologize for spreading COVID-19 to relatives on death beds, officials say
“Please don’t let this be your family ... Please for your loved ones stay home, stay safe."

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Just a reminder the CDC said only 6% of deaths can be attributed to corona.the other 93% had a average of 2.6 come morbidities.

posted January 14, 2021 05:44 AM            

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Originally posted by todd:
Well you have managed to use the non existent science behind masks a d social distancing,.....repeat .the non existence of scientific evidence these political mandates..mask and social distancing,to ignore the plain fact that before vqccinations these spikes did not exist.
Interesting how you are reflecting the main steam media...spouting scientific lies to support the propaganda of vaccination s.
I have a thread on other deaths due to the covid-19 vaccine...but of course these reorts are just twisted anti VAX propaganda. ...move on folks there is nothing to see here

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That's not accurate Todd. Cases and deaths have been spiking here since long before Christmas. You are cherry-picking information. Why not just look for actual evidence instead of speculating through fear?

The vaccine takes 14 days to be effective. Cases and deaths were already increasing, a vaccine can only stop that after 14 days in an individual who has had the vaccine.

posted January 14, 2021 06:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
That's not accurate Todd. Cases and deaths have been spiking here since long before Christmas. You are cherry-picking information. Why not just look for actual evidence instead of speculating through fear?

The vaccine takes 14 days to be effective. Cases and deaths were already increasing, a vaccine can only stop that after 14 days in an individual who has had the vaccine.

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posted January 15, 2021 08:01 AM            

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Originally posted by todd:
You keep worming out of the facts.. I didn't say here...I said the nursing home specifically had no deaths before the vaccination nations were given...
You will just not accept facts and keeping accusing me of twisting words.I suggest your look in a mirror before you find another example me twisting facts

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Todd, the article states that the outbreak began on Dec 21, and vaccines started on Dec 22:
http://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2021/01/covid-19-o utbreak-at-auburn-nursing-home-infects-137-residents-kills-24.html

The straw that broke the camel's back was Christmas and New Year gatherings. One of the stupidest decisions from the government yet, although what choice did they have? People would have done it anyway and probably on a larger scale if it had been forbidden. Reverse psychology. But either way, we were going to get increased cases from festivities, allowed or not.

By the way, my grandparents are still kickin' it after their first dose of the vaccine

posted January 15, 2021 01:15 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
[URL=http://www.today.com/health/children-apologize-spreading-covid-19-relatives-death-beds-officials-say-t205684?cid=sm_npd_td_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR0QiS_HtrKhH9WH2AHwZqBIOTFkTiNyul28l t2OZM]http://www.today.com/health/children-apologize-spreading-covid-19-relatives-death-beds-officials-say-t205684?cid=sm_npd_td_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR0QiS_HtrKhH9WH2AHwZqBIOTFkTiNyul28 lt2OZM[/URL] WNA94t-yzsZUUx888

This is one thing that we were warned about.

Children apologize for spreading COVID-19 to relatives on death beds, officials say
“Please don’t let this be your family ... Please for your loved ones stay home, stay safe."

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This is severe emotional abuse of children and the perpetrators promoting this crap should be ashamed of themselves. But apparently, some individuals have no shame or conscience!

How come children defense groups are not hopping on this and sounding the alarm? I am disgusted.

posted January 15, 2021 07:46 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
[URL=http://www.cantonrep.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/01/15/ohio-surpasses-10000-covid-19-deaths/4172179001/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ghf-cantonrep-ma in&fb]http://www.cantonrep.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/01/15/ohio-surpasses-10000-covid-19-deaths/4172179001/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ghf-cantonrep-m ain&fb[/URL] clid=IwAR3DhwH1uELdHNgmLaDY4xzeuUaDa1tsBoRTPGnDHbeE-KKZtE2AA8b1jvM

Covid deaths accelerated over the last six weeks. Real news. No gaslighting - unlike what you get out of rump and his people.

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Sorry I don't believe he any of this...the PCR can not be used to diagnose anything except to give false and inflated rates of nothing,corona virus has never been found in lungs..the CDC tried to infect human cells with corona and failed..the CDC has be caught telling doctors to mark all death as covid even if false. Yet now when fauci is frothing at the mouth to destroy the remaining remnants
of middle class economy and society(no hugging,no speaking,no restaurants,no bars ,no family get togethers...nothing except watching MSM news about the corona virus lurking to kill you)
you expect the elite to change and tell the truth about thier previous lies?whoops that is a rhetorical question for teasel.

posted January 16, 2021 06:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The science says that two doses of the vaccine are needed.

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That's the deal over here. My grandparents are due to get their second dose in 12 weeks. Although if Todd and his 'science' are correct, they will be dead before they can get their second dose.

posted January 16, 2021 03:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The science says that two doses of the vaccine are needed.

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posted January 16, 2021 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
Here some data

1. Italian ICU specialist leading 16 Hospitals in the Lombardy Region in Italy where the spread of the disease was higher. he says that there is no reason for lock down anymore... here the original video (in Italian sorry) but this is hard evidence.. he is not receiving more than 2 patients per week in any of the network of hospitals he is working with...in his own words "from a clinical perspective there is no virus" meaning the hospital is not receiving patients in ICU as a result of the virus

(Dr. Zangrillo)
https://www.raiplay.it/video/2020/06/porta-a-porta---galli-e-zangrillo-confronto-sul-virus-clinicamente-scomparso-d0810ed2-6409-492c-943c-05a8a4463e3a.html
this article discussed the most recent data... data, data, speaks louder. The is no reason to lock down.

2. this link is an article discussing all lock down measures and linking to evidence for each statement. key take aways:
- for the non sense of wearing masks
- for asymptomatic patients not spreading the disease
- for the low case fatality rate for population younger than 60 and for almost non-existent fatality rate for younger than 9
- for the unavailable evidence of this being an airborne disease..
- the lack of impact of the lock down in flatting the curve.

https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/lockdownlunacy

3. here is a video (interview in German, sorry). Here a retired microbiologist in German who dared to challenge the official narrative and criticized the measures. he published in Amazon his critics. the book is a best-seller as it is one the few braves experts who dares to speak up. he analized all the data and saw no reason for a lock-down, send a letter to Angela Merkel calling for an open discussion of specialists with dissenting views and nothing. the official narrative won.. but here is a video published by an Austrian TV channel.. apart from this interview, only alternative media were publishing his interviews, but none of the German TV MSM aired him at all.

here is the link to the book (in German)
https://www.amazon.de/Fehlalarm-Hintergr%C3%BCnde-Zwischen-Panikmache-Wissenschaft/dp/3990601911/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&qid=1593350074&refinements=p_27%3ASucharit+Bhakdi&s=books&sr=1- 1

here is the link to the video (in German)
https://www.servustv.com/videos/aa-23zjmvcz51w12/

we can decide to believe the people of the links provided or to believe to people like Fauci, who has a record of false alarms with all previous pandemies/epidemies ... it is your call... evidence is there for people to look at it and question the official narrative. want to believe Fauci? is your call...

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posted January 24, 2021 04:40 PM              

Sweden schools have been completely open and functioning normally and not a single death among the children the entire time. Nursing homes, a very different matter, and maybe that is the biggest difference between this virus and say flu strains, or bacterial illnesses like pneumonia. SARS-CoV-2 does affect the elderly proportionally worse and children least, compared to these other ones.

Skepticism of corporate media is an important and necessary balance. Teasel, please answer me this, why back in the earlier days of all this, did CBS use Italian hospital images and try to pass it off as New York hospital?

They were caught red handed doing this. They knew. They were deliberately lying/deceiving. They were fear mongering and hyping it up. The Italian situation was a true mess because of many factors--least of which being Covid itself. Covid was just the straw that broke the camel's back in that very particular, and unusual situation. For some examples of the shite show of Italy at the time. Major economic problems with the hospitals themselves pre-Covid, very high elderly population, high incidence of preexisting lung issues in that area due to high smoking and high pollution, high obesity and co-morbidity factors in that area pre Covid, many health workers (many who were immigrants) and younger people literally fled the area leaving many elderly people to fend for themseles, etc.

CBS is not a Fox news type channel now is it? Please explain rationally and logically the need for deception/manipulation in this case?

It simply amazes me that so many have the degree of trust in corporate media that many do.

Remember back in the Bush days and WMD's? Every news channel you turned to back then, some "expert" was on some corporate media station telling us about how Iraq most certainly had WMD's, the intelligence was good, and that we needed to stop them from using these (i.e. needed to invade i.e. WAR).

There was no "left right divide" back then on this issue. They were all drumming the war drums. But what happened? We were lied to big time to get us, the common people, into a war we didn't want. This is one of those never ending scenarios that we keep going through, but now it's not just about war...is it?

Where was all that journalistic ethics, honest, objective research, etc that we hear so much about being the bedrock of media and journalism? There WERE indeed a few journalists here and there that were calling out this b.s., but they got drowned out in the loud voice of consensus, mainstream media all chanting the same thing more or less.

Then, anybody remembers Vietnam and all the outright lies and b.s. the American people were sold via politicians and corporate media? Got us into another pointless, unjust, unnecessary war. One that MANY protested nonetheless.

It really just simply amazes me the amount of trust in these sources after the many, many times and degrees we have been outright lied to, over and over again. It hasn't "improved" since those Vietnam days, in fact, the record shows that its only gotten worse and more pathological as time as gone on.

People would be better served by turning off the telly, FB, and all corporate media, and doing a combo of the following: Go through a bunch of independent media sources--see where they all or most agree. And does that contain holistic logic? Then, also, go deep within during meditation and under ideal circumstances (feeling love and/or gratitude and asking to connect only to positive, helpful, love based, spiritually mature sources), ask Expanded Guidance, "What is really going on?" with no preconceptions, beliefs, etc.

If the two match up to some extent, then chances are, you're probably closer to the truth than the average commoner who is not in the know of the super wealthy and powerful. These are and have been two of my main methods for figuring out truth.

But "belief" in corporate media is likely not going to lead a person to full and accurate truth.

Btw, if you didn't know this very interesting bit of information, there has been some intitial, "soft" research that has indicated that media is one of the top 10 most preferred professions of people within the ASPD spectrum (psychopaths and sociopaths). IF THAT, doesn't give one a little pause for thought, I don't know what will if all the past, known lying/deception on VERY important issues hasn't.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2013/01/05/the-top-10-jobs-tha t-attract-psychopaths/?sh=1d1757114d80

And btw, if you didn't know, what is one of the common traits of people within the ASPD spectrum besides severe lack of felt empathy and conscience? One of the other most common traits is pathological lying.

Now, some psychological researchers argue that corporations and corporate structure is inherently psychopathic in nature and induce a kind of "field sociopathy effect" on their local environments (see the documentary, The Corporation for such references). What happens when you put these two together? You get a higher percentage of people within the actual spectrum of ASPD gravitating towards media profession AND simultaneously, the collective, corporate nature of the job starts shifting the non ASPD folks into sociopathic like behaviors like lying and deception, concern with appearance and status over more important, deeper issues, selfishness, etc.

posted January 24, 2021 05:11 PM              

There would be some people, who liking this person so much (say they are they are popular, charismatic, you're the type to be attracted to abuse, they're in love with them, or the like), might look past these "indiscretions" and continue to like and/or mostly listen to them. And before one scoffs, we see this fairly often in some closer, romantic type relationships where one partner is low empathy and negatively behaving and the other partner is higher empathy and overly forgiving. For example, it's not uncommon for empaths and narcissists to end up together, and despite all the lying and bad behavior of the latter towards the former, often the empath person stays in the relationship far longer than they should.

But the healthy response and person would be the above latter; becoming ever more skeptical and questioning of them--not taking anything they say at face value. And the healthiest response? Breaking off the relationship/connection entirely.

This is my current relationship with corporate media. Just like a person caught lying to me several times about very important matters, I no longer trust them and have more or less completely severed the connection. I know it's "preachy" of me to say this, but I recommend people doing similar based on the past evidence.

posted February 03, 2021 08:35 PM            

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457,856 deaths, in less than a year.

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Once again n you as simply spew your agenda and ignore that the CDCs own records do not show a spike of 450000 deaths.
Last year at the corresponding was ek there were over 1500 flu cases...this year at the corresponding week,there were around 50 diagnosis flu cases.from the beginning of this hoax ,the propaganda has not matched by the statistics