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Topic: CDC: At Least 20 Million Americans Have Had Coronavirus.
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PhoenixRising Knowflake Posts: 1489 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted June 28, 2020 01:12 PM
Trump is definitely doing the bidding of the Israelis. But who are the Jews bidding for ? The blacks ?By being in the democratic party? and is that why many whites support Trump? Hmm, it is so convoluted with people mixing groups and political affiliations. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4214 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 28, 2020 03:00 PM
PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE ME!@ IQ, I am sorry for the family losses. I know it must be a hard time for you and your loved ones. I remember in my other thread on Global Coronavirus, back in mid-May, you stated that India was doing well with very minimal death, or at least the poor Tamils, due to their exceptional diets. I was surprised and I remember posting saying that diabetes was rampant in India and I posted an article from India Times calling India the diabetes capital of the world. Is it possible that those who passed passed had co-morbidities, some of them they did not even know? Also, keep in mind, people don't always tell you their medical conditions, even when they are relatives. Again, sorry for your loss, and I am hoping and praying my post is not offensive to you. If it is, please let me know and I will delete it. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4214 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 28, 2020 03:18 PM
Nordicsoul, I agree with your posts and I appreciate hearing from someone who lives in Europe and can think for himself/herself.20 years ago, if we had been told that the government would force us to stay indoors, and would force us-young and old-to stay 6 feet distant from one another, would force us to wear a facemask, and would soon force us to get vaccinated with a risky virus that is being concocted in haste, would willing crush the economy, all to save .6 percent (that IS the current mortality rate of Covid-19) of the population. most of us would have laughed it off. If we had made a movie with this theme, the movie would have bombed as having an unrealistic plot. But this is happening to us right now, folks. Due to this amazing propaganda machine called the media. Due to the silencing of alternative opinions. Due to the lack of fact checking from the general population. Due to the relentless guilt shaming and virtue signaling now griping our society. The masks. Oh the masks. The masks craziness deserve its own rant: At the beginning, we were told we should NOT wear masks, lest we would interfere with front line worker's need for them, and that unless those masks were N95 masks, they were useless. Remember that time? That good ole time of circa February-March 2020? Then we were told, if we wear masks, we must never touch our face. Yet, there is a mini video of Fauci touching his masked face multiple times. Just google it. We were told masks can be dangerous because wearing them can give you a false sense of security so you will take more risks while wearing a mask. The masks are useless unless you keep the 6 feet distance. Well, the protests blew that one up didn't it? Then after people stated, you should not worry about me not wearing a mask, if you are wearing a mask, you are protected from me. That is when they pulled out the ultimate weapon, the ultimate mindphuck, the guilt tripping hammer: If you wear a mask, it is not to protect yourself (because apparently it won't, funny, isn't it?) but to protect others. I mean...  I feel like I am living in an alternate universe... IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1981 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 29, 2020 12:52 PM
Belage, thanks!I think we are living in a parallel universe. I do hope that people realize (better sooner than later) how easy we humans (no exception here) are so easily manipulated. Once we become aware how easy is to be manipulated, then we become more aware of our own bias and trigger points and start bringing common sense to any bombardment. at any rate I advice people to detox from news on daily basis, to be in contact with nature on daily basis and leave the smart phone at home... it is incredible how you start connecting with your own body and star recovering that humanity in contact with nature.. the more human we remain, the less automatic response/programmed responses we make.. Blessings! IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4214 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 29, 2020 10:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by nordicsoul: Belage, thanks!I think we are living in a parallel universe. I do hope that people realize (better sooner than later) how easy we humans (no exception here) are so easily manipulated. Once we become aware how easy is to be manipulated, then we become more aware of our own bias and trigger points and start bringing common sense to any bombardment. at any rate I advice people to detox from news on daily basis, to be in contact with nature on daily basis and leave the smart phone at home... it is incredible how you start connecting with your own body and star recovering that humanity in contact with nature.. the more human we remain, the less automatic response/programmed responses we make.. Blessings!
You and I are eye to eye on this. <3
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iQ Moderator Posts: 6443 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 01, 2020 04:38 PM
Nothing wrong in your post Belage.Those with a great diet are sailing through without much trouble despite infection. It is the 65+ who are falling like 9 pins in India. I think even youngsters with co-morbidities can survive but not the elderly.
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 4214 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 01, 2020 08:19 PM
Thanks for the update, IQ. I know that whenever one opens his/her mouth to state an opinion nowadays, chances are someone will be offended, so one has to be at peace with this possibility. But I don't think I could be at peace with offending you. You and I go way back...
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 18241 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2020 08:29 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/the-virus-didnt-stop-a-washington-socialite-from-throwing-a-backyard-soiree-then-the-tests-came-back-positive/2020/07/01/841041ba-ba19-11ea- bdaf-a129f921026f_story.htmlIP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 18241 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 02, 2020 08:39 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/asia/india-wedding-coronavirus-infections-scli-intl/index.html Groom dies two days after Indian wedding, 80 people infected with coronavirus A friend of mine in Australia said that they're entering their second lockdown. This isn't a liberal versus trump thing, it's a pandemic. I wanted to try visiting a beach at the weekend, because we so rarely get to do things like that, but I'm not even sure that the quiet corner and the trails I prefer, will be safe. I lost most of the Spring to depression, but dealt with it as best I could, because it was helping to keep people safe. That's all gone now. Cheers. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 18241 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 03, 2020 01:21 PM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 18241 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 03, 2020 01:24 PM
I read this morning, that there seems to be a new, deadlier strain of this circling now. My first thought, aside from, "Oh, **** " was: "I know who will say 'that's convenient' instead of taking precautions."IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 18241 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 03, 2020 01:26 PM
Seen on FB: quote:
This week I was one of the COVID doctors in the hospital. Before I went on service, I had planned to share my experiences when I got home after my last shift. That didn't happen because I was mentally and emotionally exhausted after being at the hospital for 15+ hours.
I am going to try to break things down so that the general public can understand, because I want everyone, not just my fellow healthcare workers, to be as scared as I am. This is going to be long, but hopefully will be worth the read for someone. For references purposes, I am a Hospitalist, which is sort of like your primary care doctor when you're in the hospital. We manage your chronic medical conditions and most of your acute issues in the hospital and consult specialists when we need additional help with complex decision making or a specialized procedure to be performed. We are also the primary point of contact for your nurse on most issues. I live in Arizona, the current COVID-19 hot spot. Arizona never really closed. Any level of closure that we obtained was the result of petitions with thousands of signatures from physicians. Despite pretty much being able to do anything you wanted to do except get your hair/nails done or eat out at a restaurant (carry out stayed open), people protested the state being closed. The state reopened immediately when criteria were put out to guide how and when states should reopen. To be clear, Arizona did not meet a single criteria for reopening. In addition, masks were not mandated. Governor Ducey avoided mandating masks and made it the responsibility of city Mayors to make any mandates. Mandatory masks were just implemented a few days ago. As you have almost certainly seen in the news, the rapid reopening without mandated masks has been catastrophic. In a couple of weeks we have gone from a few hundred cases per day to around 3,500 cases per day. A few weeks ago, I was working at the COVID-free hospital designated to be the primary elective surgery campus within the network. The past few days, our recently reopened COVID Unit has been near or completely full. I shared the patient's on the unit with one other hospitalist. Before I went on service this week, I read anything and everything I could to prepare myself to be the COVID doc. I was up to date on all of the latest recommendations. I was a little nervous, but felt like I was armed with the information that would allow me to help my patients. I quickly learned that there is no possible way to prepare for how to treat a COVID patient. There is no rhyme, reason, or pattern. There is no possible way to predict what will happen with your patient. In my sign out to the doc taking over for me today, I prefaced the individual patient sign outs with, "one slightly improving, one with less oxygen requirements but possible new liver failure developing, everyone else getting worse." I have never seen anything like this. None of us have. We have no idea what we are doing. We are sharing evidence from small studies that could help and utilizing treatments that we think and hope are helpful. Of course, we also thought hydroxychloroquine was helpful a couple of months ago. So, we're hopefully helping people, maybe hurting them, and trying our best. We are flipping people on their stomachs while wide awake on a machine pushing oxygen into their lungs to try and help; this is called the prone position, and it works, but you're stuck in that position for as long as we can keep you there. The longer the better. Anyone on supplemental oxygen is receiving dexamethasone based on the European study that came out last week. We were using Remdesivir, but a patient I admitted two days ago is the last one that will receive it from our current stockpile. Convalescent plasma from patients that had COVID, recovered, and donated plasma is being administered, but studies suggest that antibody concentration diminishes by up to 90% within 2-3 months, so who knows if that's even doing anything. I realized in the past two days that oxygen saturation numbers that you see on the machines are completely worthless in many COVID patients. So, the one thing we thought we knew, that COVID causes profound hypoxia, was true, but it's actually much worse than we thought. In order to figure out if you are hypoxic (low blood oxygen levels), a needle is stuck into an artery in your wrist as often as is needed. It hurts. A lot. I will have a needle stuck into your artery as often as I need to. I'm sorry, I know it hurts, but it's for your own good. In any other time, most of my patients would already be intubated on a ventilator. We are managing so many critically ill patients on regular hospital floors. If we sent everyone to the ICU that would normally be there based on their current status and put them all on ventilators, all resources would be depleted in a day. The patients I cared for the past few days were the most miserable, uncomfortable, terrified patients I have seen in the past four years. I sat with them while they cried because they are scared that they will get worse and get intubated and die without ever seeing their loved ones again. I can't comfort them by saying they'll get better soon, because I don't know that they will. All I can tell them is that we're doing everything we can and I really hope they improve. I held a patients hand while she cried and screamed, "oh my god, I'm going to die, aren't I? I'm dying" when I told her we couldn't give her more oxygen without intubating her and putting her on life support. I then tried to comfort her children over the phone after I informed them they were not allowed to come in to the hospital to be with her. They asked if someone could be there to comfort her if she is going to die. Many of my patients were young. Many have no underlying conditions that predispose them to a bad outcome, yet are one bad blood oxygen reading away from needing to be intubated. COVID does not care who you are. I am scared and you should be, too. All of that is to send the following message: Please, please, stay home if you can. If you need to go out, WEAR A MASK! Do not touch your face. Wash your hands and sanitize often. I can't promise you won't end up in the hospital with COVID even if you do all of these things, but I promise it's the best shot you've got. P.S. THANK YOU to all the amazing RNs, RTs, PCTs, Pharmacists, Pharmacy techs, lab techs, physical, occupational & speech therapists, social workers, case managers, environmental service workers, and everyone else that makes it possible to care for these patients in the best way we know how. You don't get enough credit. You all are the real MVPs. ______________________________________ ADDENDUM: To be clear, COVID-19 is caused by a virus. This is a PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS. It is not, never has been, and never will be a political issue. Politics have played a huge role in getting us into this mess, and it's time to cut them out. COVID doesn't discriminate, and it definitely doesn't care who you're going to vote for. When you see/hear/read anything related to COVID-19, pay attention to who is posting the information. If it is not coming from a medical professional, question your source. ______________________________________ ADDENDUM-2: I am so incredibly shocked at how widely this has been shared. Thank you all! Please continue to share! Since people are reading this, I would like to use this platform to ask you to PLEASE talk with your loved ones about your wishes. If you have an advance directive, please bring it with you if you are unfortunately in need of hospitalization. If you do not have an advance directive, it's time to get one. If we do not know what you would like to be done, we assume that the answer is everything. If your loved one or listed MPOA is unaware of your wishes, they will likely also err on the side of doing everything. Help them to make those very difficult decisions by making your wishes known. Do not wait until you are in the hospital, because it may be too late. Please look up what it means to be "full code" vs "DNR/DNI." Know what you would want done to you.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 18241 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2020 12:22 PM
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 4214 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2020 01:30 PM
^^^ Hilarious!Teasel, perhaps, if you and the rest of the mask advocators posted a randomized, double blind study (you like to do everything by science, don't you) showing the efficacy of the variety of facemasks people are now wearing (cloth, bandana, scarf, homemade etc), the rest of us hicks would gladly join the flock. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 18241 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2020 01:41 PM
http://twitter.com/danioliver/status/1279155358666305541?s=2 Twitter thread from a woman who is still recovering, after catching it in March. Details her symptoms, still getting fevers. IP: Logged |
Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted July 04, 2020 01:58 PM
Belage, I'm sure there's one coming from the renowned Facebook science journal. lolIP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 16004 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2020 05:54 PM
Imagine, Dr. Doom praised the WHO to the high heavens. Now, we find out the WHO has been lying to the world for more than 4 months about Communist China's reporting and cooperation on coronavirus.WHO Quietly Admits Chinese Communist Party Never Reported Coronavirus Outbreak by Kristina Wong 4 Jul 202094 The World Health Organization (WHO) quietly updated a timeline this week to reflect that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) never reported its discovery of the coronavirus to the WHO and that the global health agency had to learn about it by itself, despite the WHO’s praise of Chinese transparency.... http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/04/who-quietly-admits-chinese-communist-party-never-reported-coronavirus-outbreak/
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Dhyana Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: US Registered: Sep 2019
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posted July 04, 2020 07:15 PM
Masks Don’t Work: A Review of Science Relevant to COVID-19 Social Policy By Denis G. Rancourt, PhDIncludes a review of the medical literature. There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles. snip The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical and political history. snip Conclusion Regarding That Masks Do Not Work No RCT study with verified outcome shows a benefit for HCW or community members in households to wearing a mask or respirator. There is no such study. There are no exceptions. Likewise, no study exists that shows a benefit from a broad policy to wear masks in public (more on this below). snip ...if anything gets through (and it always does, irrespective of the mask), then you are going to be infected. Masks cannot possibly work. It is not surprising, therefore, that no bias-free study has ever found a benefit from wearing a mask or respirator in this application. Therefore, the studies that show partial stopping power of masks, or that show that masks can capture many large droplets produced by a sneezing or coughing mask-wearer, in light of the above-described features of the problem, are irrelevant. For example, such studies as these: Leung (2020), Davies (2013), Lai (2012), and Sande (2008).
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 4214 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2020 09:55 PM
^^^ Thanks for posting. I love the work of Del Bigtree. He has kept me sane throughout this frenzied Covid madness, coming with real facts instead of fear mongering. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 16004 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2020 11:44 PM
Michigan Hydroxychloroquine Study Shows Significant Benefit for Treatment – Media Shocked… July 3, 2020 sundance A Henry Ford Health Clinic study shows significant decreases in the death rate among patients to used Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment. Many U.S. media outlets are ignoring the result; however, even CNN has admitted the “surprise” study findings.MICHIGAN – A Henry Ford Health System study shows the controversial anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine helps lower the death rate of COVID-19 patients, the Detroit-based health system said Thursday. Officials with the Michigan health system said the study found the drug “significantly” decreased the death rate of patients involved in the analysis. The study analyzed 2,541 patients hospitalized among the system’s six hospitals between March 10 and May 2 and found 13% of those treated with hydroxychloroquine died while 26% of those who did not receive the drug died. Among all patients in the study, there was an overall in-hospital mortality rate of 18%, and many who died had underlying conditions that put them at greater risk, according to Henry Ford Health System. (more) Speaking to reporters at the White House, Peter Navarro, drew attention to the Michigan study as well as another in New York. Navarro pointed out that media opposition to the treatment has likely resulted in unnecessary death. NAVARRO – “A new study came out from Henry Ford hospital system that shows that if we take the medicine hydroxychloroquine In early treatment, we can observe a more than 50% reduction in mortality, without any adverse effects.” “Now what, what, practically, that means is that if we had been using hydroxychloroquine at the very beginning, we could have saved 10s of thousands of lives already. And moving forward If hydroxychloroquine is used under the advice of the physician in early treatment, this study suggests that we could save hundreds of thousands of American lives over time and perhaps millions worldwide.” “And the same day that that came out, a similar study came out from Mount Sinai Hospital system, which had a similar conclusion that hydroxychloroquine basically lowers the mortality rate.” Navarro said he found it “reprehensible” only two outlets covered the news and reflects a “very strong bias media.” “This is an undue and unnecessary fear of medicine is the use of more than six decades relatively safely. This is a drug that is regularly prescribed for lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, pregnant women take it. It’s, it’s a drug that that has gotten this hysterical bad rap, on the basis of the media selectively pro promoting studies which on their face are flawed studies. (more) The media manipulation of the political discussion has so divided our nation that people have actually been killed by the efforts of fake news and their Democrat allies. All of this collective resistance has created a toxic stew of distrust and unease in the American people. Distrust and division are extreme; and there’s a very good reason why so many Americans are angry toward the media and those who are weaponizing news. Obviously CNN has to ignore all the column inches and hours of broadcast where they politicized the treatment. As often said: in order for left-wing ideologues to maintain the fallacies within their political positions, they must pretend not to know things…. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/07/03/michigan-hydroxychloroquine-study-shows-significant-benefit-for-treatment-media-shocked/ IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 16004 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 05, 2020 12:02 PM
July 5, 2020 Evidence is in: Hydroxychloroquine works! Howard Richman The media is doing its best to ignore the solid new evidence that hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) works. Although they claim to be pro-science, they only report scientific studies that agree with their narrative. Although they claim that black lives matter to them, they purposely keep knowledge about successful treatments away from COVID-19 patients, a disproportionate number of whom are black. Here are some details of the two new studies that almost all of them are ignoring:1.Henry Ford Health System. Last week, the International Journal of Infectious Diseases reported that hydroxychloroquine cuts the death rate in half when it is administered to hospitalized COVID-19 patients soon after they are admitted. The retrospective study of 2,541 patients was conducted by the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit Michigan. Only 13% of the patients who were given HCQ died as compared to 26% who were not given HCQ. HCQ worked whether or not it was given with the antibiotic azithromycin, but it appeared to work slightly better with azithromycin. Key to the study was early treatment with HCQ, with 91% in the HCQ group starting that medication within 48 hours of hospital admission. 2.Mount Sinai Hospital. Also last week, Nature Reviews Immunology published the results of the small but ideal type of experiment (a double-blind, randomized clinical trial) conducted by Mount Sinai Hospital in New York which found that 0 of 31 patients in the HCQ group progressed from mild to severe as compared to 4 of 31 patients in the control group. The media is also ignoring the May 8 study of 932 patients by the New York University Grossman School of Medicine which compared the HCQ/azithromycin treatment with the HCQ/azithromycin/zinc treatment. NYU found that the addition of zinc sulfate pills to the HCQ/azithromycin treatment reduced the death rate from 23% to 13%, but only if given before the patients got so sick that they required intensive care. If these results are extrapolated, they show that early treatment with HCQ could prevent about 50% of the deaths from COVID-19, and the addition of zinc sulfate could further reduce the death rate by an additional 20%. For every 100 patients who are currently dying without effective pharmacological treatment, only 30 would die if they were treated early with the the HCQ/azithromycin/zinc combination. The studies which appear show that HCQ doesn’t work should be considered as well. Two of them, based upon data provided by a small company named Surgisphere and published in reputable medical journals, were retracted by the journals when it turned out that the data were suspect. And the other studies either overdosed their patients with a toxic dosage of HCQ (200mg to 400mg per day for 5 days is normal), or they often waited until COVID-19 was severe before beginning the HCQ regime. The media seems to be exceptionally incurious about why countries in Asia have much lower death rates than those in Europe and America. According to worldometers, only 3 people per million have died in China, 6 per million in South Korea, 8 per million in Japan and 14 per million in India. Compare that with 400 per million in the U.S.A, 537 in Sweden, 651 in U.K. and 843 in Belgium. You have to read Asian newspapers to learn how COVID-19 patients in Asia are being treated. According to India’s The National Herald: A Shanghai-based Noida doctor says China is close to winning the battle against COVID-19, and the combination of zinc, hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and antibiotic azithromycin has been able to save the lives of coronavirus patients. Speaking to IANS, Dr Sanjeev Choubey, Medical Director Internal Medicine at St. Michael Hospital said this combination has been adopted as a line of treatment for patients infected with coronavirus, and, as a result, patients are recovering, decreasing their need for intensive care. Unfortunately, the health bureaucracy in Washington DC, has been actively suppressing the use of HCQ in the United States. Economist Peter Navarro, in charge of procuring sufficient COVID-19 treatment supplies for President Trump, had a great interview with America’s Voice on July 3 in which he discussed this week’s HCQ studies, the press ignoring them, and the FDA standing in the way. Here’s what he said about the FDA (at the 12:55 mark): The next shoe that has to drop here is that the FDA really has to revisit these decisions that it made over the last several months which effectively killed hydroxy demand and also has made it very difficult to conduct the additional clinical trials we need, not just for therapeutic, but also for prophylactics. The Washington bureaucracy and the mainstream media have blood on their hands. Both continue to kill people by ignoring the scientific studies which show that the HCQ-zinc combo, if given early, could reduce the COVID-19 death rate by about 70%. To the main-stream media, only the lives of thugs killed by the police matter. The lives of COVID-19 patients do not. So, if you get sick, buy some zinc over the counter and, like it says in all the TV ads, talk to your doctor to see if an HCQ prescription might be right for you! http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/07/evidence_is_in_hydroxychloroquine_works.html
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nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1981 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 05, 2020 01:17 PM
the fact that that infame "observational study" published by LANCET against the effectiveness of hydroclörine and then retracted says all. what is shameful is that the same outlets that were making so much noice about the fake results derived from the study were silent after the article was retracted.the corruption of sciences has no limits.. what is FAUCI saying now about these new findings? interested to hear what this evil creature has to say about it IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4214 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 05, 2020 01:43 PM
^^^ The deception is so deep. Fauci, aka Dr. Faust, will surely find a way to spin this. 2 things worked against Hydroxychloroquine 1) that Trump sang its praise. In the current climate, that alone would be a death blow to it. 2) That there is not much money for big pharma to make of this medicine since it has been around for so long, no one has a patent on it anymore. They would rather push for its rival, Remdesivir, sold by Big Pharma Gilead Sciences. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 18241 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 05, 2020 09:13 PM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 18241 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 05, 2020 09:50 PM
http://www.thenation.com/article/society/schuchat-truth-pandemic-coronavirus/ Clearing up my tabs, this one was supposed to be posted last week. Not that it matters. Nobody gives a crap. IP: Logged | |