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Padre35
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posted April 02, 2013 01:09 AM
  
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
And that's why I don't go to bars, and don't date women who go to bars. And when I was in my teens and 20s, I wasn't trying to pick up women to get into pants. I had enough supply and wasn't that desperate.You are a product of your environment and your choices.
Hmm, suspecting YTA has a soft spot for AG. Thing is though, if one has ever hunted, one then knows young bucks are not exactly logical at times mi timo IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted April 02, 2013 01:34 AM
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Padre35: Thing is though, if one has ever hunted, one then knows young bucks are not exactly logical at times mi timo
Good thing I'm a tom cat and not a young buck. Way cuter!  IP: Logged |
freebrainstorms
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posted April 02, 2013 02:53 AM
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D'oh! Yeah, pubs are different. But I've only rarely been to one of those (and haven't been to one in about 10 years), so I didn't think of them. I used to go to a goth watering hole that was different, too. That was more about seeing and being seen and probably could've done alright for itself even without selling alcohol and doubling the door price/admission. 
yeah whoops, sorry! i frequent bars with sticky dance floors and horrible music and lighting so rarely that i don't even think about their existence anymore to be honest lol IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 02, 2013 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Hmm, suspecting YTA has a soft spot for AG.Thing is though, if one has ever hunted, one then knows young bucks are not exactly logical at times mi timo
The ones I like are always logical. And all of them turned out to be extremely successful. Thank you. But that's my point. I never needed to "hunt." Got enough by just being myself. I would venture to say one would be far more likely to be successful at La Boheme than the neighborhood bar/pub. The odds at the opera house are six of them to one of you. Versus the bar where there are ten of your type versus two of them. Who would you rather drive home? A drunk chick all wasted and stinky from booze who is too toasted to get laid or a cultured and hormonal one in an evening gown who is all hot and bothered after Puccini? IP: Logged |
Padre35
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posted April 02, 2013 09:02 AM
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The ones I like are always logical. And all of them turned out to be extremely successful. Thank you. But that's my point. I never needed to "hunt." Got enough by just being myself. I would venture to say one would be far more likely to be successful at La Boheme than the neighborhood bar/pub. The odds at the opera house are six of them to one of you. Versus the bar where there are ten of your type versus two of them. Who would you rather drive home? A drunk chick all wasted and stinky from booze who is too toasted to get laid or a cultured and hormonal one in an evening gown who is all hot and bothered after Puccini?
I'm one of the odd fellows who does not care for live music very much YTA. So 4 hrs of La Bohemme is not particularly attractive to me. And everyone hunts YTA, the only difference is if one is the pursued or the pursuer.
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ghanima81
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posted April 02, 2013 09:20 AM
Judgy McJudgerson, simmer down. Not every "bar" is full of "drunk chicks". And not everyone would go sit through an opera just to get laid. Apparently you did, but that's not for everyone. Ugh. Let's just let AG fend for himself. Life is a lesson after all. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted April 02, 2013 10:26 AM
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I met my husband on Match.com. He was my first online date. 
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T
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posted April 02, 2013 11:13 AM
LOL ghani!&.......I didnt realize so many people had such strange ideas as to what "bars" are. Sounds like people think they are the same as dance clubs and picture drunk people stumbling around or dancing or grinding on tables, fighting or like the kids on Jersey Shore ..... Weird. The ones I went to were similar to pubs or were beautiful bars in local restaurants, especially as I got older (I was never into the dance club scene) The people at these bars were classy, successful people who can handle themselves. A very different picture than what a few people here think of bars being like. What sheltered lives some of you have led! Sure I've been to plenty of dives and when I was younger we had our favorite spots to go to, but I find it surprising how many people here have an extremely off base impression of bars. And can only think of them as dark, sleezy, smoky, "pick up joints". I realized earlier on, after some comments from people here, that they really had probably never been to a bar and imagined them to be like some scenes they'd seen in movies or something LOL And I love how a couple love to point out how they would NEVER EVER go to one! Ugh! gross! How slimy or whatever. They are SO much better than that!  You've never even sat at a restaurant's bar section when all their tables were full and ate there? I mean, that's pretty much it. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 02, 2013 12:21 PM
No, I don't like bars and make it a point to avoid them. I personally find them disgusting. No, I wouldn't eat at a bar of a restaurant. I would just go somewhere else. And I've been to more bars than I care to go. Even the Oak Bar at the Plaza Hotel or Sir Harry's at the Waldorf are where disgusting drunk idiots congregate - only in dresses and expensive suits. You can put Chanel lipstick on a pig, but expensive attire and/or cosmetics doesn't change a pig from being a pig. You may think I've led a sheltered life but you haven't encountered half the adversity and hardship that I have undergone, so I'll just forget that. You can opine on myself all you want, and I have zero issue with that. However, don't call the kettle black even as the copper pot is charred at the bottom. IP: Logged |
T
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posted April 02, 2013 05:08 PM
Yeah, we know guy. I think you are being a bit dramatic with your extremely harsh opinions. You sound like a psycho right now.This is disgusting?   Just two examples of many. You are too good for a table at any bar, anywhere? Well, well, well! & I agree, having money, nice cars, Chanel bags and lipstick does not change a pig from being a pig or a *bleep* from being a "bleep*.  BTW, I wasnt directing my entire post to you, so take a ******* chill pill. Youre allowed to make your ridiculous whacked out opinion known and I am allowed to tell you what's really up. & I know, yes, you and another lady here have had the worst lives ever and love to talk about it and try to gain sympathy. We all know the stories. You win first place. Happy now? Idiot. Can't believe i'm even responding to this whack job. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted April 02, 2013 06:33 PM
Making it classy doesn't change the nature of the beast. How do I know? Because in addition to my observations that's what the media is all about, that is it's what draws people in, sex sells because people want it (even if they have it they tend to want better), and even fetuses masturbate showing how primal it is to our natures. Interesting enough women's magazines (such as Cosmo, which sells millions monthly) are even more obsessed with sex (and getting guys to offer it, sometimes even just the sex without much thought to relationship) than the men's magazines I've looked at. And the romance genre is filled with finding & taming exciting bad boys (preferably rich) or turning beasts into princes, and where better to find bad boys and beasts than at a bar (a higher class bar if you want to make sure he has money and hopefully a nice car)? It's where even a shy woman can go because the alcohol will make him bolder and more likely to take the lead (thus reducing her guilt, and many delude themselves in thinking she can tame him after if she likes him), and some women also like to blame the alcohol if their behavior becomes unacceptable to other women (not to say men don't take advantage of naive women who can't hold their alcohol and even use rufies, but I've seen too many women let out their inner nymph, aka "bad girl," after a couple of beers which I do not believe is from the alcohol itself as she later claims). Furthermore, Ladies' Night. The bar draws in women because it will draw in the men who are after the women (women who are encouraged to drink on top of that). I find it hard to believe that a woman wouldn't realize that this is the reason why they're getting cheap (I've even heard of free, at least the first one) drinks. If someone says s/he doesn't want to be hit on at a bar (as opposed to a pub, and not counting extraordinary bars, and not counting most restaurants that serve liquor on the side) I'm not going to believe it. It's always about the sex for too many people. Even here on LL I've seen multiple posts by women who moan that a man is nice to her without even trying to kiss her, and that's even when going to places like museums (example) instead of bars. That many men say outright (along with a few women) that it's all about sex (that "men and women can't be friends") adds to that. So with that as the case, sex dominating people at least at a subconscious (*) level (and I think it's conscious for the majority, though women are less likely to admit to it due to social pressures), then what happens when you get a bunch of people together and add alcohol? If a man should kiss a woman he socializes with at a museum (according to plenty of women!), then why not at a bar, especially in a place where many flirt (if not outright hook up) and after a few drinks to make him bolder? (That really should be a rhetorical question, btw.) I can't imagine people pay jacked up prices to drink beers they can have at home with friends (and use hopefully cleaner bathrooms) or at a restaurant that also serves beer with meals at a more reasonable price if it were just the alcohol. Sure, other reasons can exist, like live bands, which I mentioned before. However, men are going to come onto women (and I've experienced women who treated me as competition for male attention just by being there), and my getting sick of it is why I stopped going (and I've been to bars in multiple states, including expensive ones which still had the same primal dynamic). I'm skeptical of women who go to bars regularly who say they're not wanting male attention save under extraordinary circumstances (though I could see an asexual or whatever meeting with other friends hoping for male attention). I know if I decided to go to a bar just to have a drink with lady friends it would be to a gay male bar. If anyone still wants to claim that the typical person going to a regular bar isn't looking for attention by the opposite sex then please share why they pay more for the same thing when they could get it cheaper, better, and with less bother elsewhere. (*Interesting enough there's a Subway where I've gotten to prefer being served by men because they put more food on it. At first I thought this was because women decided I was watching my weight, though the kids got less as well, but then a guy let me know it was the opposite for him, the women gave him more than the men, so I guess it's a provider thing, the men subconsciously want me to think of them as good providers and women subconsciously want men to think of them as good with food, at least there, I haven't been able to closely observe if it's like this elsewhere.) IP: Logged |
Padre35
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posted April 02, 2013 06:40 PM
I suspect what YTA has in mind is bars a huge waste of time and counter productive and basically you can find better things to do with that time.In some ways he is correct, in some ways not, all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy so to speak. My local watering hole has plenty of outdoor space so I enjoy getting a beer (or two) and studying flashcards and what have you. During the late afternoon bars are quiet as libraries, for me have a hard time paying 3.50 for a cup of coffee with crappy tables and poor wifi connections. IP: Logged |
T
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posted April 02, 2013 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Padre35:
I suspect what YTA has in mind is bars a huge waste of time and counter productive and basically you can find better things to do with that time.In some ways he is correct, in some ways not, all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy so to speak. My local watering hole has plenty of outdoor space so I enjoy getting a beer (or two) and studying flashcards and what have you. During the late afternoon bars are quiet as libraries, for me have a hard time paying 3.50 for a cup of coffee with crappy tables and poor wifi connections.
Exactly. And I guess you can't expect people who don't go to them to get it. But to go so far as to call them all disgusting is going too far. If you go to them all the time maybe you'd be wasting valuable time. Sometimes one is looking to relax and have a nice day or night out - out of their house or whatever. Anyway, you get it. I agree that daytime is a great time because they are usually quiet, especially if it's an outdoor one you can bring your dog to and read at or use WIFI or chit chat with interesting locals or tourists. My favorite one is on the sand under tiki umbrellas and watching the skyscape and sunset unfold. I'd "waste time" more often like that if I could. __________________________________ on topic though, I still think aquaguy's best bet for meeting someone might be through friends, at his age. Maybe online dating too, since more people go that route in this day and age. IP: Logged |
freebrainstorms
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posted April 03, 2013 01:18 AM
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What sheltered lives some of you have led!
...or we don't have a ton of money and sometimes don't live in that kind of city where those classy kind of bars are available for us.... Key point, when you were younger you went to dive bars, meaning that now you can afford to go to fancier ones where the people are more polite and classier....we have different people of different ages here, and a lot of us have to deal with the younger kind of bar. IP: Logged |
T
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posted April 03, 2013 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by freebrainstorms:
...or we don't have a ton of money and sometimes don't live in that kind of city where those classy kind of bars are available for us....Key point, when you were younger you went to dive bars, meaning that now you can afford to go to fancier ones where the people are more polite and classier....we have different people of different ages here, and a lot of us have to deal with the younger kind of bar.
I prefer more low key bars to the really uptight classy ones. So, don't get me wrong. I was more trying to make a point. I'd rather go to a bar with a relaxed, cool atmosphere and good live music any day of the week - better people there, more down to earth and you don't have to break your bank to have a good time. Don't get it twisted. That was my whole point in posting. Seems some people have it twisted and want to make people that visit bars out to be scumbags or "disgusting". Was screwing their heads back on straight. That's all. IP: Logged |
freebrainstorms
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posted April 03, 2013 01:25 AM
perhaps sorry is in order? i thought you were saying that ppl on this thread weren't considering all the real kind of bars that exist and people you meet at bars (like these pictures) are always classy, polite, etc.IP: Logged |
T
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posted April 03, 2013 01:29 AM
No worries. A couple of rabid people where going nutso again. Nothing new.We are used to them not knowing what they are talking about and insulting the lower class: Snobby McSnobbenberger for example 
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/004054-3.html we've got a few regular comedians up in this joint. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 03, 2013 08:27 AM
It's so nice that you have to resort to personal insults and defamation. It's alright. I so t give two sh1ts about your derogatory remarks. Its not intended to be comedic but if's your perrogative in which ever manner you want. I'll give my opinion when ever I choose to and there's nothing you can do about it. So you'll hear from me whether you like it or not. And your views of me doesn't amount to two f's worth. IP: Logged |
T
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posted April 03, 2013 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
It's so nice that you have to resort to personal insults and defamation. It's alright. I so t give two sh1ts about your derogatory remarks. I'll give my opinion when ever I choose to and there's nothing you can do about it. So you'll hear from me whether you like it or not.
No, I won't have to hear your remarks whether I like it or not, because I don't have to listen and don't usually read your repetitive ego-boosting, shallow posts. It's nice that you do the same for me, tough guy. Please continue to do so. Just giving you back what you give out. You sound foolish to me, just as I'm sure I do to you. I don't give two or three ***** what you have to say either. Because I don't believe most of it. It sounds like mostly bs to me. I believe, at most 5% of the crap you dish out. Have a nice day. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 03, 2013 08:36 AM
Dittos and touché. IP: Logged |
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posted April 03, 2013 08:38 AM
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lilithpluto
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posted April 03, 2013 08:40 AM
I don't like going to bars too.. classy or not... I've been to all types of bars, the sleezy ones in Thailand, classy in Italy etc.. but never visiting the same one again even in the country I am in. Well, the aura there never attracts me, the same as I feel uncomfortable when i visit a hospital. Why do I still visit? To observe ppl - sleezy ppl, so-called classy ppl, one time visit to the bar that everyone raves about, accompany friends/colleagues/sisters. I'm not so much into bars as I am into food and coffee. Not all the bars have good food. Bars are just not where I like but I've been told I'm strange, as usual, with strange taste. IP: Logged |
T
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posted April 03, 2013 08:52 AM
Try to stay on topic or start another one about bars if you must. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted April 03, 2013 08:57 AM
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&.......I didnt realize so many people had such strange ideas as to what "bars" are. Sounds like people think they are the same as dance clubs and picture drunk people stumbling around or dancing or grinding on tables, fighting or like the kids on Jersey Shore .....Weird. The ones I went to were similar to pubs or were beautiful bars in local restaurants, especially as I got older (I was never into the dance club scene) The people at these bars were classy, successful people who can handle themselves. A very different picture than what a few people here think of bars being like. What sheltered lives some of you have led! Sure I've been to plenty of dives and when I was younger we had our favorite spots to go to, but I find it surprising how many people here have an extremely off base impression of bars. And can only think of them as dark, sleezy, smoky, "pick up joints". I realized earlier on, after some comments from people here, that they really had probably never been to a bar and imagined them to be like some scenes they'd seen in movies or something LOL And I love how a couple love to point out how they would NEVER EVER go to one! Ugh! gross! How slimy or whatever. They are SO much better than that!
i'm mrely responding to your post tat ppl who don't like bars never been to bars. And I'm offended.  Anyway, sticking up for YTA and his right to his opinions IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted April 03, 2013 09:02 AM
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