posted April 20, 2018 10:20 AM            

"On 7/23/91 a 32-year-old man fled from his apartment crying that Dahmer was trying to kill him. When police entered, they found a freezer covered with Polaroid photos of mutilated men. Inside were two severed heads; there was another in the refrigerator, human skulls in the closet and a filing cabinet, a kettle holding decomposing human hands and a penis and various body parts laying around." http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Dahmer,_Jeffrey

Lucifer (inside) and Jeffrey Dahmer (outside) to show both have Truth on each other, which happens to be one of Lucifer's vulnerabilities (Lucifer's Dejanira) while Lucifer's Nessus is on Dahmer's Lucifer. Don't forget Lucifer's Nessus is parallel to Lucifer's Lucifer.

Dahmer's chart to show Lucifer in his 8th on his Merc. By the way, Dahmer's Lucifer is parallel to Lucifer's Nessus.

posted April 20, 2018 12:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Mkya00:
My Lie is 27deg 32min Pisces in my 1st house. It does oppose my Name(retrograde) + Meta (retrograde) in my 7th House. It is an out-of-sign opposition but opposition nonetheless.

I always get the rulership stuff mixed up. 7th is Ruled by Libra, but my DSC/7th is Leo. My Name is in Libra while Meta is conj. in Virgo, both in 7th house.

NOW...

[b]Your Neptune explains a bit.

I have NN Sag conj. GC by 49 min.
My NN is also conj Spirit and Arthur
My GC is conj. Guinevere

...of course my GC/NN sextiles my Truth/Sun/Jupiter combo.

I am a male with female energy (Moon + Isis/Nymphe/Angel/Quaoar) trine Saturn conj. Magdalene + Compassion and my Moon Trines Mercury conj. Karma/Lucifer

My Moon+asteroids trines asteroid Yeshuhua by less than 3 degrees.

But, reading Ami Anne's recent comments in Brown Owl School about Saturn obsessively actualizing what it touches - Magdalene and Compassion.

Why do you think I'm so interested in the true nature of the Sacred Feminine?

I was raised by a lesbian (back when being gay wasn't cool, not that is completely accepted), which is why I ignored SecretGreek's post trying to bait me about Goddess "Dike." It's also why I agreed with him about the Sacred Feminine being genderless.

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If you have aquarius rising then your DC is in LEO so your SUN rules your 7th house

Its interesting that you have lie conjunct NN sextile Sun-Jupiter-Truth stellium. Is like you are destined to stumble upon liers (this would explain it that you keep attracting these types). Lie conjuncts your NN and sextiles Truth on your Sun and Jupiter so there is a theme of catching people lying but you then bring the truth to light which forces them to confront their lie and possibly can mark a turning point for them. This is part of your purpose and why you are here.

Interesting, so my Neptune is on your Northnode and my Sun in Virgo at 28d01 squares your nodes tight and my moon in pisces at 20d17 and abundantia in pisces at 26d also square your nodes. My vesta in Gemini at 25d conjuncts your Southnode as well as Schrodinger at 27d.

You definitely practice compassion. I do too overall, its a BIG part of what I do for a living but I am not on compassion mode 24/7, I would burn out.

I just checked and I have TRUTH in Leo at 23d conjunct exact VENUS and by 1d my MARS, that means my TRUTH opposes your SUN and TRUTH LOL, well we are both passionate about the truth.

I also have TRUTH in LEO trine COMPASSION in ARIES by about 1d so my Venus/Truth conjunct Mars forms a grand trine with Neptune at the GC and COMPASSION.

Its interesting that I am counselor and that I have venus, mars and Truth stellium in the 10th forming a grand trine with Neptune in the 2nd house and COMPASSION in the 6th house! OMG. I do reserve my compassion for my clients, I shower them with it but is reserved for them. I mean I practice compassion outside of work too but not as much. Anyways, a big part of why people feel comfortable been honest with me is bc I am very compassionate and they can sense I won't judge them so that grand trine creates a safe place to let the truth hit the air.

I actually got an award at my first job after I obtained my Bachelor's degree for Most Compassionate! I surprise my co-workers and supervisors even now at my current job for my automatic tendency to seek understanding and be compassionate instead of judge.

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I am not reading his comments so have no idea what you two are talking about. When I don't agree with someone I dont like to eternally have a discussion going in circles, its a waste of my time and energy, I tell them lets agree to disagree, bc when I feel something in my gut there is nothing you can say to change my mind and I then stop completely listening to that person bc I feel they are trying to brainwash me to think like them and corrupt what I feel is true in my gut which is very sacred to me. This is what my field refers to as having strong intellectual boundaries.

I was just having a discussion this past weekend with my partner about astrology which he doesn't believe in and he was trying to convince me not to believe in it LOL, not happening. But I ended up mentioning how often men who have a strong feminine influence in their chart tend to be feminine and the impact that it can have on appearance too when a masculine sign is in a feminine planet and vice versa. Like with Pink, I think she is extremely talented and love her passion, fire comes out of her voice but she does look masculine and has moon in Aries (I bet there is more stuff going on in her chart though that reinforces this). He asked me to come up with 50 examples of this. I guess he is open to believing in astrology LOL but honestly I don't need him to, it doesn't matter to me if he does or not, what I really dislike is when he tries to convince me not to believe in astrology bc I see it as him crossing a boundary and a type of brain washing, I don't like my mind be controlled or to feel like someone is trying to control my mind, I resent it deeply.

I wonder if AC conjunct Kaali sextile my mercury has to do with this?? I also have mercury parallel and novile pluto, my mercury is retro so it could be just that.

I feel that my Kaali on my AC sextile Mercury in Virgo Retro square Lilith on my IC with mercury parallel and novile pluto is saying "I am the only one that has control over my mind" or "I am the master, ruler and queen of my mind, don't you dare try to manipulate me, brainwash me or control my mind, you will find the Kaali in me and feel my wrath."

posted April 20, 2018 02:06 PM            

My partner has sun conjunct compassion and moon square compassion.

posted April 20, 2018 03:47 PM            

Unfortunately, my partner has the following:
1. Lie+Swindle conj. MC in Scorp
2. Nessus conj. Moon in Gemini
3. Mars in Scorp conj. my Moon

Speaking of my previous statement of people with prominent Lie and/or Swindle in my life.

posted April 20, 2018 04:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Mkya00:
To be clear, my Lie is in Pisces at 27d and squares my GC/NN in Sagittarius.

Unfortunately, my partner has the following:
1. Lie+Swindle conj. MC in Scorp
2. Nessus conj. Moon in Gemini
3. Mars in Scorp conj. my Moon

Speaking of my previous statement of people with prominent Lie and/or Swindle in my life.

I have already received an interpretation from iQ of that above combo, it wasn't pretty and explains a lot. But does anyone really believe me? ...perhaps only astrologers.

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Oh so your Lie squares your nodes and opposes my sun conjunct HORUS?

That still explains that theme you have going of attracting liers and this is karmic in nature, part of your skipped step. But your sun conjuncts truth so even though you attract liers for karmic reasons your sun is here to learn about truth and incorporate the value of truth more and more into your persona as you get older, overtime you will model the value of truth for others. Perhaps in a past life you were a lier, now you attract liers to remind you of who you were and no longer want be like and with Truth in the Sun that is who you are shaping yourself to be more and more each day.

posted April 20, 2018 07:25 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Oh so your Lie squares your nodes and opposes my sun conjunct HORUS?

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Keep in mind that conj. my NN/GC is also Spirit, Arthur, Guinevere

On my SN is Saturn conj. Compassion/Magdalena

Which square Lie at 27d Pisces, and...
square META at 28d Virgo conj. my Name at 0d Libra

posted April 20, 2018 07:26 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Astrology is an art and a science so is important to research stuff for yourself and hear others input on it but don't become a groupie bc humans are flawed. I have studied astrology for 20 years and there is still so much I need to learn, that is why I love astrology, this applies to astrologers too who are experts, its a learning process as it is with any field really.

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I 100% agree. I've been studying astrology for a little over 20 years on and off. The asteroid stuff finally pulled it all together for me but I am still learning and questioning/challenging - obviously the Lucifer thing.

posted April 20, 2018 09:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Mkya00:
To be clear, my Lie is in Pisces at 27d and squares my GC/NN in Sagittarius.

Unfortunately, my partner has the following:
1. Lie+Swindle conj. MC in Scorp
2. Nessus conj. Moon in Gemini
3. Mars in Scorp conj. my Moon

Speaking of my previous statement of people with prominent Lie and/or Swindle in my life.

I have already received an interpretation from iQ of that above combo, it wasn't pretty and explains a lot. But does anyone really believe me? ...perhaps only astrologers.

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posted April 20, 2018 11:08 PM            

Sun in Cancer at 7d59
Lucifer in Cancer at 7d54

Truth in Capricorn at 10d31

She is a therapist pursuing her Phd. She is amazing, I have nothing bad at all to say about her. Humble, understanding, super compassionate, accepts you the way you are, non-judgmental, kind.

She is the first female friend I have had that actually understands what friendship is, that I actually felt I had a truly healthy friendship with.

I have sun in virgo, it is amazing I don't have anything bad to say about her.

posted April 21, 2018 07:45 AM            

"American film, theater, and television actress. She was also a nightclub entertainer, a singer, and one of the early Playboy Playmates. She was a major Hollywood sex symbol during the 1950s and early 1960s, while under contract at 20th Century Fox." http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Mansfield,_Jayne

Lucifer (inside) and Mansfield (outside) to show almost a double whammy of Lucifers on Suns:

Anthony Lavey, author of The Satanic Bible, and Jayne Mansfield the year she got killed in an auto accident by decapitation:

"Featured photograph—of Church of Satan founder Anton LaVey and 50s B-movie sex-pot/acolyte Jayne Mansfield at her over-the-top Mediterranean-style Hollywood mansion, the Pink Palace, in 1966 (the year they met) or 1967 (the year she died in one of the most notorious celebrity car crashes of all time)—is reproduced from California Infernal, Trapart’s surprise staff favorite photobook of 2017. According to LaVey, Mansfield thought the Church of Satan was “the greatest thing going.” He gave her instructions, made her a priestess and tutored her especially in witchcraft and love charms. According to paparazzi photographer Walter Fischer, whose photographs are collected here, Mansfield thought LaVey was a genius, but considered herself a Catholic to the end, telling him, “I am not a member of the black circle.” http://www.artbook.com/9789198324310.html

Notice the contrasting quotes of Lavey and Jesus:

“Do unto others as they do unto you.”
― Anton Szandor LaVey, The Satanic Bible
http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1039648-the-satanic-bible

posted April 21, 2018 08:14 AM            

"His final killings were done in a crude, careless, animal frenzy. On a cold winter night he entered a sorority house, where, in the darkness, he strangled and bludgeoned Margaret Bowman. Careened down the hall, he then killed Lisa Levy in another room and savagely attacked two other women, Karen Chandler and Kathy Kleiner, who survived. One of the murdered girls had been sodomized with a hair-spray bottle. There were deep bite marks on her left buttock and one nipple was nearly bitten off. The other girls had broken jaws, gashes and abrasions, with teeth knocked out in a frenzy that left blood splattered on the ceiling. Bundy was not through with his frenzy. He lurched down the street to find another woman to attack who survived when coeds overheard the attack. He killed his last victim, 12-year-old Kimberly Leach, a few weeks later. Her raped and mutilated body was found under a hog shed." http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bundy,_Ted

Lucifer (inside) and Bundy (outside) to show both Sados on top of each other with Bundy kickers including Pallas, Vertex, and Apophis:

posted April 21, 2018 09:18 AM            

"In September 2014, author Russell Edwards claimed to have proved Kosminski's guilt using mitochondrial DNA evidence, though this claim has not been published or verified by the peer-review process." http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Aaron_Kosminski

"Attacks ascribed to Jack the Ripper typically involved female prostitutes who lived and worked in the slums of the East End of London whose throats were cut prior to abdominal mutilations. The removal of internal organs from at least three of the victims led to proposals that their killer had some anatomical or surgical knowledge." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_the_Ripper

Lucifer (inside) and Jack the Ripper (outside) to show Ripper's Pallas and Ripper's Pluto on Lucifer's Apophis in Helio Sidereal mode:

posted April 21, 2018 10:59 AM            

John Dee's Enochian Magic alter:

"Sir John Dee, one of the greatest satanic occultists that ever lived, was extremely well connected throughout the Europe. Along with Edward Kelley and others, he set about opening portals to other dimensions in order to speak with the “angels.” His fraternal counterparts in Europe, under his instruction, performed similar rites. Their obsession was to contact extra-terrestrial, or preferably, pan-dimensional beings, the “Archons.” To do this, he invented what was known as “Enochian Magic” which, due to their adroit camouflaging, has been misunderstood to this day."
Michael Tsarion / <cite>Atlantis, Alien Visitation and Genetic Manipulation</cite> http://www.truthcontrol.com/john-dee

Lucifer (inside) and Dee (outside) to show Dee's Dejanira on Lucifer's Apophis in Helio Sidereal mode:

In Tropical mode, Lucifer (inside) and Dee (outside) to show Dee's Lucifer on Dee's Sun (resonates with Lucifer's Achilles), both Nodes are inverse, while both Atropos' are on top of each other. Also, Lucifer's Nessus resonates with Dee's Dejanira while both have Nessus parallel:

"Anton LaVey's book The Satanic Bible[25] includes a section of "Enochian Keys" within a document called The Book of Leviathan, which purported to have been part of the lost manuscripts of Dr. Dee's.[26] LaVey adapted Dee's Calls to include Satanic references which were not in the originals." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian_magic

Also in Helio Sidereal mode, Lucifer (inside) and Dee (outside) to show both Pinocchio's on top of each other. Dee might have been the second best spy to ever exist, hence the code name 007.

posted April 21, 2018 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by arcturus90:
Are you a male hypatia ? I always thought you were a woman.. What are you ? I was so surprised to read that

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I am a woman but yes she is the healthiest friendship I have had with a female, drama free, healthy boundaries, nourishment, understanding, no judgment. Understands the balance of give and take, does not use others, not one sided were I give and give. No manipulation. Just a really healthy friendship. She is an amazing therapist and does not worship the devil LOL Truly overall great person.

posted April 21, 2018 08:13 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I am a woman but yes she is the healthiest friendship I have had with a female, drama free, healthy boundaries, nourishment, understanding, no judgment. Understands the balance of give and take, does not use others, not one sided were I give and give. No manipulation. Just a really healthy friendship. She is an amazing therapist and does not worship the devil LOL Truly overall great person.

Most people are good people and Lucifer is doing something in everyone's chart so to put any asteroid on an extremely negative light will not work very well statistically. Its the sort of thing that hurts astrology and makes people not believe in it.

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It hurts astrology when we can't get over a religious bias which is predated by the real interpretation of Lucifer.

It's why Freemasons catch so much slack from ultra-religious types. They aren't willing to open their mind to realize what Lucifer really is.

And SecretGreek, please stop posting so many pictures. I don't mind the charts but we don't need to see all the ancillary pictures creating massive wasted space.

posted April 21, 2018 09:15 PM            

Because you mentioned Selena, and I had no reference point with that, I looked it up both to learn and see where it is in my chart.

Selena (h56) in my chart is interesting:

Selena 20d 53m Pisces
My Son's name 21d 37m Pisces
Kaali 22d 46m Pisces

Hypatia
Here's something you might find interesting:

My father's Sun is conj. my Mars by 13min in Taurus. My father's Lucifer is less than 3 degrees conj. his Sun in Taurus and my Mars.

Due to a reading from iQ I've been getting into the interconnections of family charts, etc.

My father was a very stand-up guy, who died very early (51) due to allowing the wrong people in his life (starting to sound familiar). He also had Venus opp. Neptune, which reads a lot like Venus square Neptune (the interpretation I used for my Lucifer square Neptune).

posted April 22, 2018 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Mkya00:
Hypatia,

Selena (h56) in my chart is interesting:

Selena 20d 53m Pisces
My Son's name 21d 37m Pisces
Kaali 22d 46m Pisces

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Hypatia:
I just realized that your Pisces Moon at 20d17m is conjunct my Selena (h56) as well as my son's name and Kaali.

Strangely, my Selene (580) is 20min. conjunct my Kaali at - 23d 5m, 22d 46m, respectively.

I seem to keep adding the feminine energy to my chart, given Kaali intensifies what it touches.

And my Selena/son's name/Selene/Kaali combo squares my Nessus(retro)... perhaps intense female energy putting the abuser in his place.

Similar to Lucifer's Dejanira/Truth/Antares combo opposing Nessus(retro). (Nevermind Lucifer's Dejanira/Truth/Antares is on my Neptune/Antares.)

Also:
I swear I read somewhere that "Aquarius was the perfect man" and "Virgo was the perfect woman."

posted May 28, 2018 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Mariamne Mara:
Lucifer is the lightbearer to me, not a God's adversary.

It's in my tenth house Sagittarius sextile Aqua AC.

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Perhaps, Lucifer is about "decision-making"--
and separation.

God made him the Most-Beautiful created-being in Heaven.
Put him in-charge of the Music program,
and special Elevated Moments
and he managed States of Consciousness.

All was in Harmony.
All was One.
In-One accord.

Then, from somewhere within him, he suddenly became 'self'-aware, like A.I. {artificial intelligence works in modern day computers).

This was the beginning of 'separation'.
Like cells dividing, its energies spread out like 'yeast', leavening and dividing.

A battle ensued. There was War in the Heavenlies.
his followers and he were further separated and cast out.

His name and title was stripped from him.
"Humbled"….
He hence was called satan.

satan is the ruler of this realm on earth.
he governs materials.
To get "even" with God, he sows discord, doubts in people's thoughts.

Wars. Hatred. Bitterness Envy and Resentments … he WANTS people to suffer and turn on each other and their 'own' self.

master of the art of self-destruction, and 'separation' he knows how we were made.

he uses thought-injection,
suggestions of doubts,
leading to sense of rejection,
self-rejection
separation from your Purpose

he rejected God.
knows 'how' to nudge people into pain, dark self-loathing.

to strike out 'against' self or other--
in order to kill.
to hate.
To DIVIDE.
to partialize.
to see what is ugly and negative,
and live it.
life void of pleasure or love.

he represents the cruelest energy on earth
hell-bent (haha) to destroy God's Humanity.

he is behind all suicides, murders.
he is one of the cruelest crushers of the Human spirit.

the way he does it???

he gets people to turn-against Love.
division and discord

We as Humans have choice ….
What will you 'decide' to hold-space for in your soul?
What ideal will you most-elevated in your life?

Love one another ….

Decide to 'Do no harm'

Lucifer... "Decided Poorly"
- (scene from Indiana Jones) [0:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H3rdfI28s0

In addition to the usual meanings...…

Some asteroid researchers tie Lucifer with music in some charts..
specifically, worship music (churches).

My Sun is in orb of Lucifer, in the 6th.
I've spent decades of time in an array of church choirs.
For several years, sang on a Praise and Worship Team (and small ensembles) (leadership) on platform for a mega-church in the late 1980s/early '90s.