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Topic: Cancers: How do you feel about Earth signs?
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RunAroundScreaming
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Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 05, 2010 08:15 AM
  
Peri, people can be annoying. They probably annoy themselves, too, from time to time.  . But other times they're pretty calm and charming and even-keeled and not annoying lol. So, even if they're acting annoying, in my experience giving them a chance to show that they can also NOT be annoying is nice to find out. I know it's hard, but the only way you will find out is taking the initiative and being nice to someone and see if they are nice back , right? They probably will. I know u dont think u judge people but by judging them as annoying from that glance u had at their personality u are judging their personality as annoying.All i'm saying is give them another chance. Also, nobody would take someone seeming preoccupied with themselves personally. It's not like they think that you're um, doing it on purpose. Well, unless that person was paranoid of everyone. Usually people notice when someone is like that with everyone or just with you, so they wouldnt tbink that ur doing it to ignore them personally. But, they might still get annoyd that it felt like they have to do all the work in the friendship, like them trying to make u smile but you never really trying to do that for them maybe? But there are a lot of people who dont care about that and listen to and value what u say rather than the comfort level ur expressing with ur body language. and i've never seen people bashing on earth signs. Mostly it's geminis and aries they bash on. Lol. And cancer men...they say they are cheaters and liars or something. Lol. So thay's why i thought u were just whining. But if u noticed differently then it's not whining so yeah, ur right. IP: Logged |
Peri
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From: 49N35 34E34
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posted November 05, 2010 08:20 AM
lol, you sound like my mom, RunAround 
yes, you are right, everyone deserves a chance
I am working on it, on being more sociable, after all, I have NN in Libra but it can be hard at times...IP: Logged |
charmainec
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From: on the other side of the rainbow
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posted November 05, 2010 08:22 AM
Peri  was waiting for you the other day....
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"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies with in us."
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 05, 2010 08:25 AM
Wherever the NN is, it is hard
Mine is in Sag and I hate to travel .
I am not bold, courageous or adventurous.
These are my aspirational qualities  ------------------
Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Peri
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posted November 05, 2010 08:26 AM
hey Charm  you mean on gmail? Ami, yes, NN is hard but I do have Draco Sun in Libra so it helps IP: Logged |
charmainec
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posted November 05, 2010 08:27 AM
Yes Peri.------------------
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"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies with in us."
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Peri
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posted November 05, 2010 08:30 AM
I will message you when I am home IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 05, 2010 08:30 AM
Lol, but see everyone goes through this everytime they have to meet new people. It's a scary experience. Unless it's a group of people who are especially charming and talkative. But everyone has the same fears. . Not just you!Don't compare urself to others...you are not introverted. Don't call yourself that. You are just a normal person, you dont have to label urself anything. Plus labeling urself gives u an excuse to keep being afraid. Certain ppl may act crazy cuz they were constantly having to meet new people when they were little, so they got used to it, and now theyre not so fearful of having to meet new ppl. You are not introverted, introverted is someone who needs very very few people to be happy, whether people are the nicest in the world or not. But dont worry people are not going to judge you as harshly as u think. Most people are nice . Be entertaining, try to make others laugh, try to spread the joy in the world! More people need smiles on their faces LOL IP: Logged |
Purple
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posted November 05, 2010 08:35 AM
My draco planets are all in Aries. Does that make me Cancerish arie-ish IP: Logged |
Peri
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posted November 05, 2010 08:36 AM
RunAround, I dont worry that people are going to judge me or be mean to me, it's not about my fears, it is about me really being introverted >> Sun on IC quote:
introverted is someone who needs very very few people to be happy
it's exactly how I am IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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From: Avendesora
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 05, 2010 08:53 AM
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And what's wrong with being entertaining? What's wrong with trying to make others smile? You're givingto others by making them smile. You might have made an impact on someone who was feeling a bit sad. What about Making new friends? Peri...... Don't judge people right off the bat. The person sitting next to u could easily turn into someone u care about with just starting some friendly conversation.
This sounds like something someone more heavy in air and fire would say. You actually sound alot like my Gemini Moon sister, now that I think of it. What are the rest of your placements? Because I have 3 planets and two asteroids in Cancer and I do not think like this at all. Not everyone wants to be he life of the party or entertain all the time....its draining to have to do that 24/7, and pretty selfish to expect that of others IMO. Some people enjoy quiet time and there's nothing wrong with that. I am one of those people who can go out and have fun, but I need time to myself to recharge after a while because I literally get drained by the presence of lots of other people.
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Benedict Moon*
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posted November 05, 2010 08:59 AM
And 'boring' is relative...up to everyone's interpretation. You may find that bookworm who doesn't go out to be a complete drag, but I may find them very interesting because we can discuss every subject under the sun.
Cancer Sun, Mercury, Chiron,Juno, DC, and Valentine
Virgo Moon/8th
Gemini Venus/5th
Aries Mars/3rd
Taurus Jupiter/5th IP: Logged |
Agent_009
Knowflake Posts: 530
From: Planet Shining
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 05, 2010 09:00 AM
[RUN: "...have this depressed workaholic aura about them...and like they're controlling or feel they have to be in control of everything. Especially of themselves."][LARA: Actually, l have found pisces and cancer to be more controlling than me.]
First of all I'd like to say, I like water signs as long as they dont have a HUGE stellium of planets focused on that one water sign. I also dont deny Earth signs are perhaps more serious when it comes to the most primal thing, "survival." Depressed? No, it doesnt necessarily have to come from a place of depression, (mis-perception on other's part). Perhaps Earth is forced to face with survival & it's primal instincts (& deal with it effectively), early on in life.
I gotta say, being CEO's & Directors isnt easy...but someone's gotta do it. World wont go around if everyone's spontaneous at the same time.
Controlling?? Not at all, another misperception. There's "controlling," which is ineffective/malfunctioning decrees thrown at people. Then there's "STRUCTURING," which is effective leadership so a corporation actually has a fighting chance at survival. HUGE difference...! You CANNOT control & cling onto ideas & methods if you constantly need to restructure it to make it work. Earths are good at "letting go," of what's not working. I agree with Lara on this one. I dont want to generalize, but I've found Cancer & Pisces stellium people (3+ planets) to be really controlling. I think it's because, in general water signs have stress mis-management (whether they realize it or not). It usually leads to rampid, atomic explosions, hence "potentially," triggering series of anger mis-management. Call it emotional, passionate (as waters would have it)...whatever you want. I still think it's mis-management of emotions. I think one can be passionate in life without being a total basket case. I once worked on a movie where the DOP (director of photography) and a producer were both Cancer stelliums. They were SO stressed out they turned into a double case of Mr. Hydes, (James Cameron style). I quit in protest, not only because they'd swear at me but they were seriously abusing other crew members. One of my actor friends (male) was severely physically abused by his ex, cancer stellium. Their relationship finally ended when the COPS put in a restraining order. My mom, a pisces stellium...issues with rage. My dad's pisces sun too (no stellium), so he's got a broader perspective on life compared to my mom. Waters have big time issues letting go of dysfunctional situations & feelings. Now that's controlling. Desperately clinging onto ultimate dysfunct...instead of restructuring, aka transforming malfunction into function. I do small talk. I just dont do "useless talk," like constantly whining or b*tching about problems on replay.
Once again, I dont mind water signs...it just depends on the person I guess. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon*
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posted November 05, 2010 09:10 AM
I have a whole stellium in cancer and I have no problem letting go of what doesn't work for me anymore. I put 700 hundred miles distance between myself and the people who crapped on me but called themselves my friends It could be my Gemini Venus or this Pluto transit but I honestly don't care what other people do as long as it doesn't affect me.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted November 05, 2010 09:13 AM
Peri, you sound like the Taureans I know (mostly male ones). Warm people, but not so big on talking for hours, with most people. Those I know can be very warm, and funny/entertaining. Moody, too - but then two of them I'm just not keen on anymore. My father isn't moody, as long as he can get on with the things that he needs to or wants to do. I don't know many Cancers, but those I know here don't seem to wallow in their past. My Uncle is a Cancer, and he can also flit between being excessively moody or having a laugh (he also embarrasses easily), but I don't know the rest of his chart. Cappy sister is wonderful, smart/clever, hard-working, and hilarious. She looks good, takes care of herself, and doesn't give up easily. She still has the discipline that I used to have (more, actually), and I'm totally impressed by my little sister. I'm not a Cancer, but I have a Cancer Saturn aspecting three of my Aries planets. I can get stuck wallowing in the past, if I'm not careful.  IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted November 05, 2010 09:18 AM
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Wherever the NN is, it is hard
Mine is in Sag and I hate to travel .
I am not bold, courageous or adventurous.
These are my aspirational qualities
I have that NN in Sadge, too, and I can be bold, courageous and adventurous, but I sometimes need a push. It's too easy for me to become discouraged, unless I'm feeling strongly that I need to do something (and am not getting obstacle after obstacle thrown at me). Moon/Venus conjunct South Node obviously hold me to my SN, somewhat, but if I'm learning about something, then I usually want to experience what I've learned - either through travelling, or putting into practice what I've read about. (I also have the Mars in Pisces squaring the Nodes, and almost started a thread asking about that yesterday.) Totally off-topic. Sorry. Now, see: this is the time that I might start to wallow in the past. I could have renewed my passport seven years ago; I could have gone to stay in the family friend's house on the coast of England, all by myself, after she'd made the offer; I could have done this or that.. I remember in Jan Spiller's book on the nodes, her saying something about our intuition being strong, and something about spiritual protection (a certain amount), I think? It's been too long since I read the book, but it inspired me. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted November 05, 2010 09:21 AM
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And 'boring' is relative...up to everyone's interpretation. You may find that bookworm who doesn't go out to be a complete drag, but I may find them very interesting because we can discuss every subject under the sun.
Me, too. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 05, 2010 09:23 AM
I know we always have the discussions about wallowing in pain vs "moving on" and leaving it behind and "living"
I am just gonna add what I have learned. I don't care to debate it cuz it is just my experience , to date.
I think people on LL could say that *I* wallow in pain, maybe more than anyone on here 
However, if someone IS wallowing in pain, it is because they HAVE pain.
It has to be resolved in a real way so that they do not have the wound existing there.
IF the wound exists ,they will be in pain whether or not they SHOW it.If the wound exists, it WILL manifest in some way.
It could be messed up relationships, addictions, etc etc etc
The wound has to be cleaned and mended. Then, it will not BE there. ------------------
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Benedict Moon*
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posted November 05, 2010 09:28 AM
I completely agree, Ami Anne. I guess earth and water just has different ways of coping. What we see as reflecting, they see as wallowing. What we see as repressive, they see as productive. It goes both ways, ppl. And Teasel  IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted November 05, 2010 09:28 AM
Right. I don't think anyone really wants to feel bad or stuck. I know that when something keeps coming up for me, it affected me deeply, and won't just go away - especially when it's thanks to someone you trusted, deliberately hurting you. If that person was a significant part of your life in any way, those feelings aren't just going to disappear. You can go and party, only to come home and cry for a while, if/when the feelings re-emerge for a while.
In the case of abuse, it definitely isn't going to go away just like that. IP: Logged |
Unmoved
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posted November 05, 2010 09:38 AM
*edit*I wish I could say what total BS this topic is, but I'd rather say nothing if I don't have anything nice to say, right? And, please don't take my comment (or lack thereof) personally, or get defensive about anything... It's said in jest. IP: Logged |
Unmoved
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posted November 05, 2010 09:44 AM
My bad. That was supposed to be a big thumbs up for Agent 009 woopsie IP: Logged |
Agent_009
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posted November 05, 2010 09:46 AM
Unmoved,No offense taken. I recognize we all have our differences & preferences in whichever signs or traits. Benedict,
["I guess earth and water just has different ways of coping. What we see as reflecting, they see as wallowing. What we see as repressive, they see as productive. It goes both ways, ppl."]
--I like how you put it. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted November 05, 2010 11:36 AM
As far as Tauruses go, I've known them to be charmers in most trivial or business relations, and quite relaxed and reserved in their more serious relations. They get along with people with ease for the most possibly thanks to their Venusian nature. It can be a show for them, however. One of my Taurus friends was once having a bit of a problem with his Capricorn wife's perception of him. She expected him to always be on, to always be that charming, outgoing personality. He told me that he wasn't really like that. He's as much himself (or more himself) in his retiring, quiet moments.I'm a Capricorn myself. I don't mind opinions against Earth signs so much. There are some valid points. I think that maybe the attention is misplaced...or misunderstood. It's not that there's a problem with Earth signs so much as you understand that the masculine signs activate better things in yourself. You're not attracted to your fellow feminine signs. There is an interaction between masculine and feminine signs that works on some level. The masculine inspires that gregarious, competitive optimism in feminine signs, while feminine signs inspire sensitivty, creativity, and realism.
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katatonic
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posted November 05, 2010 12:00 PM
how ignorant is it to assign a quality to one type of sign? is anyone all one sign? i have known fiery cancers and tauruses, earthy leos and pisces, and so on...no one is just one element, quality or anything. it would be IMPOSSIBLE.more likely it is a combination of YOUR chart with the other person's that causes the reactions you are having. maybe their saturn is on your venus or moon? what is a leo like? is a different question than what is leo like? IP: Logged | |
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