posted November 05, 2010 12:01 PM              

Yes, l think cancerians whinge a lot about their lot! Yes, earth signs can appear too serious because they can pull focus which water signs can't do, although earth signs are perhaps less intuitive than water signs.

posted November 05, 2010 12:14 PM            

LOL. I've met some VERY jovial earth suns (myself not included though my 5th house sun and Aries moon can make up for a lot).
As for Cancer it's been a mixed bag. I've noticed a lot of Cancer men (heavy Cancer charts) are jokers and have an incredible sense of humor. I have my SN, Cancer, and sun/moon midpoint in Cancer and I like Cancers but they sometimes rub me the wrong way.

IMO, I don't think the issue is really earth signs or earthiness. I think some people just don't have a sense of humor. Heavily fixed signs, a lot of Saturn can come off as harsh (early on, later years they soften up). I've even noticed a lot of Aries without a sense of humor since they don't like being off-guard. Same for many Scorpios. Same for lotsa Leos.
Tauruses have always had a fab sense of humor to me. Capricorns or heavy Cappy influence = corny humor.

posted November 05, 2010 12:32 PM              

Do you have something causing you pain at the moment? If not, then the "pain" you feel is MEMORY.
The way to cease memory pain is to say "stop!" and it will!!

posted November 05, 2010 12:37 PM              

is that like a guy wearing orange tweed trousers, a jock strap depicting an elephant with a large trunk and a skin-tight, shiny pink 'do you think i'm serious" top?

posted November 05, 2010 01:47 PM            

his twin brother could be a member of the monty python cast any day of the week.

of course they have venus in leo conj their suns...this is why you can't relegate a sign or element to particular qualities.

posted November 05, 2010 01:55 PM            

Santa Claus = Taurus

posted November 05, 2010 02:36 PM            

Astrology is not black and white and astrology is not all about your Sun Sign. If you polled all the Cancers in LL, you will get different responses. Why? Because some Cancers have Leo/Virgo Mercuries and Venuses. They might have an Earth rising sign.

Perhaps you should examine your own chart to figure out why you don't like earth signs, or maybe analyze the specific charts of earth signs you've encountered and look at your synastry.

At best this post is useless and at worst it's a blundering folly.

I am an Aqua Sun. I don't particularly like Virgo characteristics, but it's because I have several close friends with Virgo placements (particularly their Moons), and that's because I have a Virgo IC and SN (also my Sun is in the Virgo dwad).

I always seem to get crushes on Caps/Cap Venuses. I have Saturn conjunct my DSC and square my Venus.

I have little to do with Tauruses but that's because Taurus is on my 12th house cusp.

posted November 05, 2010 03:09 PM            

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posted November 05, 2010 04:00 PM            

As a Scorpio sun, I can tell you that I can focus on a project or a mission like nobody's business. And I know many water signs (even Pisces) who graduated law school with me, some with top honors, and passed their bar exams. If that doesn't require focus, what does?

This thread, and others like it, have a tendency to go off in directions that I'm not thrilled with, but nevertheless, I have to add that my father (now in heaven) was the jolliest Taurus, even when he was working, and so was my law school roommate - totally raucous. And an ex-boyfriend (Taurus) was really outgoing and funny; so I think any time we speak in terms of Sun signs without seeing the chart in its totality, we end up with astrological jibberish.

posted November 05, 2010 04:29 PM            

This thread will come off as annoying to anyone who doesn't see what I see. I can't even tell who's a cancer and who isn't but I think so far only Purple agreed with me?

And astrology is about generalizations....I am attracted in some way to ever Capricorn I've ever met. Why is that? Because sun signs ARE valid. Sun signs share general traits that can be said for all the people with those sun signs. Jesus, they even look alike. So how can u say that earth signs, water signs and fire signs don't all share certain characteristics in the way tey come off, think, or express themselves? In my opinion, the beauty of astrology is finding truth in generalizations. Even aspects are generalizations of people's charts.

posted November 05, 2010 04:44 PM            

"And astrology is about generalizations...."

True, but it's best not to perpetuate them usually. It's better to me at least to look at the whole chart. Better yet to just get to know the person regardless of their chart

"I am attracted in some way to ever Capricorn I've ever met. Why is that?"

I don't know. You tell me. What house does Capricorn fall into in your chart?
Maybe put up your chart, pretty pleasE?

"Because sun signs ARE valid. Sun signs share general traits that can be said for all the people with those sun signs."

No, see, this kind of thinking perpetuates generalities. It's very outwardly focused. Yes SOME validity is there but more importantly where someone's sun falls in your chart has to do with how YOU perceive them, not how they are. I'm sorry but it is not that black and white.

"Jesus, they even look alike."

Maybe to you. You're the one who is effected by them, and now more so since you are looking at astrology and your mind is going to basically look for even more similarities to back up your perceptions.

posted November 05, 2010 04:50 PM            

"So how can u say that earth signs, water signs and fire signs don't all share certain characteristics in the way tey come off, think, or express themselves?"

I don't, can't, because there are always exceptions. I choose to be surprised by people because I deplore predictability. As you're putting it, if I 'know' all these traits of the zodiac by heart then I have a handy dandy guide to always refer to. I'm sorry, I just don't buy into that because I have seen way too many exceptions. And I think it's kind of a trap to think in that way because we don't even know enough about astrology to draw conclusions.

"In my opinion, the beauty of astrology is finding truth in generalizations."

There's always truth to generalizations in the same way there is always truth to gossip and rumors. I don't know if this is always beautiful though.

"Even aspects are generalizations of people's charts."

Yes, I agree kind of. Which is why I don't like to fixate on astrology too much. I prefer to just get to know someone one on one and sometimes something in their chart will make sense, and sometimes it won't, because the aspects do play out differently for everyone.
Astrology is not the same as the law of gravity. It's too esoteric, and needs the space and room to be loosely interpreted so there's room for looking at things in a different way.

posted November 05, 2010 04:53 PM            

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And astrology is about generalizations....I am attracted in some way to ever Capricorn I've ever met. Why is that? Because sun signs ARE valid. Sun signs share general traits that can be said for all the people with those sun signs. Jesus, they even look alike. So how can u say that earth signs, water signs and fire signs don't all share certain characteristics in the way tey come off, think, or express themselves? In my opinion, the beauty of astrology is finding truth in generalizations. Even aspects are generalizations of people's charts.

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Been saying that around here for years. Some people refuse to believe, which is odd for a person into astrology.

I'm a Capricorn, and I had lots of Cancerian girlfriends to start off my dating life, but, perhaps like you, I found that they didn't work. I don't hate them or anything.

Peri's a woman, and I don't think she really needed advice, but you're right that she handled it well.

posted November 05, 2010 04:54 PM            

you may or may not be ccompatible or need earth,whatever it is, you feel you need the partner to be jovial somewhere to a degree, thats where your chart speaks for you not your sun-sign generelizations.

its very very hard to avoid, but everyone must avoid labeling signs a certain way based on hwo they have experienced them. itdoesnt mean there isnt that sign out there thats more compatible for you or even perfect.

and also, think of our house system as 1 big giant house. the windows are how we view the outside world.

another analogy could just becalled particular colour glasses.

if sagittarius is on the cusp / window of my 5th house, i might see them through romantic glasses, that might be how i view them.

but some one else with my sun sign or evenchart with a different asc might feel very different about them.

what doesnt change much between the charts though (without the asc) is how the chart works with placements in sadgie-tear-i-us.

posted November 05, 2010 06:52 PM            

"Generalizing is giving a general form to something. You can't have astrology without generalization. That would make astrology moot."

So you say. But people who become initially interested in astrology only BEGIN with those generalizations - because they don't know any better. It's just a starting point. Usually, if a person is interested in a subject at least, they begin to open their minds a little as they learn. They go deeper.

Otherwise, what would be the point of learning? To gather more genralizations?

posted November 05, 2010 07:11 PM            

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