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jane
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posted November 06, 2010 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Generalizations" is such an ugly word. I prefer "essence." Every sign has an essence. But a sign's essence is an abstraction. It doesn't really exist. That pure essence is always corrupted since it's always being shaped by its context.

Even the energy in the air is like this. The transiting Sun in Scorpio feels different when there's also a retro Sco Venus than when there's a Libra Venus, and so on. All the energies as a whole shape one another to give the whole time its particular essence. And that's what happens with individuals. Individuals have an essence that comes from all that they are.

I find this thread's question interesting - studying how a group perceives another group. But I think it's nowhere near specific enough to capture the reality of people. Not only will the Earth signs vary considerably depending on their whole chart, but so will the the perception of the perceiver based on her whole chart.

RAS, as you know , you have Venus in Leo. That alone will make you value and adore exuberant personalities. Venus is particularly important since it rules your chart.

But it's quincunx your Saturn-Neptune cnj. Saturn's in Cap, so strong. Reserved people may trigger that quincunx in you, making you feel too heavy. You may feel, on the inside, like it's heavy Saturn realism or Leo fun and excitement. The more Saturnine (reserved) someone is, the more your own Leo Venus feels Saturn's onslaught. Reserved energy kills your Venus's pleasure and your Moon's comfort.

I'm a little tipsy so I hope this doesn't just seem to make sense in my own head.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, jane that's perfect! Or maybe it's just that my first name is like the sign of gemini according to asiaflash.com or in english, astrologizeme.com

It said in the description that geminis and gemini-ruled names can't stand seriousness for a second.

Acoustic God, I'm remembering something. I used to be DainBramaged around here a long long time ago. I think we once had a conversation about that asiaflash website and you said your name was either Jason or Joshua, amirite?

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jane
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posted November 06, 2010 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure the name contributes.

I can't remember what mine is like...I think it might be Taurus? Must contribute to my fondness for Earth signs, along with my Cap Venus & Taurus Dsc.

edit: yes, it's Taurus. Thanks for mentioning the site's name.


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# Your existence is centered on an immense love for life and on its pleasures. Your sensuality is therefore very well developed, but this sensuality is wholesome and very close to nature. You know how to savor the pleasure that comes from the satisfactions of the senses. In trying to better extract the joy included in each moment of life, you give precedence to gourmandise and enjoyment.

I gourmandised a bit too much recently.

It forgot to add that Cancers wouldn't like my name.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think generalizations are bad per se, it's only that on a board like this you are bound to have a genralization that applies to a group of people, and since people are people, they get defensive and get their feelings hurt.

Some people say, "I can't stand Pit Bulls," and surely some would agree and disagree, yet we know that not all pit bulls are bad and dangerous, but we still have understanding towards the person who was traumatized in some way by a Pit Bull.

Same thing with a certain sign. Why can't we feel compassion for a person who maybe had three Capricorn boyfriends in a row, who were all cold and unfeeling? After all, it's her perception, not ours, and the person is just sharing and seeking to find if there are others that feel the same way.

I don't see much difference in saying, "I don't like Scorpios," to saying.. "I don't like people with Venus square Uranus."

Just because there are more of the first one than the second, doesn't mean it's still not a generalization.

It's only natural to want to defend ourselves and our loved ones.
But, we have to keep in mind that none of us are friends, in the real usage of the word, or loved ones of RunAroundScreaming, so we shouldn't take it that personally.

She should be allowed to have her own astrological journey her own way, IMHO.

To me, it's worse when you hear things like.... "A person who has their Moon in Capricorn comes from a cold and unfeeling Mother."
I read stuff like that and cringe, because my son has that, and I'm probably the farthest thing from a cold unfeeling Mother, especially with him!
But I gotta take a step back and like with everything,.. take it with a grain of salt.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Acoustic God, I'm remembering something. I used to be DainBramaged around here a long long time ago. I think we once had a conversation about that asiaflash website and you said your name was either Jason or Joshua, amirite?

You are right. Wow! I remember that. In fact, you said my name, Jason, corresponded to Scorpio, which I thought was odd at the time. However, since then when I see other Jasons I think about that Scorpio comment. It may be true.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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jane
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posted November 06, 2010 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Gypsee

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Same thing with a certain sign. Why can't we feel compassion for a person who maybe had three Capricorn boyfriends in a row, who were all cold and unfeeling?

I know this wasn't your point, but if someone like that came along, I'd wonder why they're drawn to cold and unfeeling men. I'd rather help them look at their own chart to understand that, than rag on Caps.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That wasn't my quote that you have my name above.

Oh, and how odd, I have a brother named Jason, who is a Scorpio. Now that will be stuck in my head. Thanks peeps!

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posted November 06, 2010 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
edited my post. Sorry gypseewind, haha. I *was* going to reply to you right after i wrote your name, but then i saw Acoustic God's comment and got distracted and replied to that. Haha.

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posted November 06, 2010 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane: Did you know about this website before? (Asiaflash.com)

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jane
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posted November 06, 2010 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, thanks to you. You gave the link here a few years ago, but I foolishly didn't bookmark the page. I won't be amking that mistake again.

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posted November 06, 2010 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GypseeWind: Yo brotha must be somethin else!

No, I'm kidding. He's gotta be, like, really intense, though ... O_O

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Is he...*revengeful*? Lol.

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted November 06, 2010 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, thanks to you. You gave the link here a few years ago, but I foolishly didn't bookmark the page. I won't be amking that mistake again.

Ooooh wow. Yayness!

By the way, asiaflash.com has a section on the sign of last names and the compatibility of two first names and two last names. It's incredible and so true. They also have numerous other things like, the compatibility of you and your parents, what your life stages are like, etc etc. and they even have a section combining ur numerology numbers and ur name and/or sun sign, ur name and ur sun sign and/or chinese sign, ur sun sign and numerology, and even your eye color. I found it all to be accurate. Be sure to check it out! it's too cool to miss out on.

Just put asiaflash.com into translate.google.com

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posted November 06, 2010 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, he is very intense. His eyes are so peircing (he has the blue lazer beam kind) that some people cannot look directly at him.

Umm, is he vengeful?? Welllll, he's in prison, for assault. Soooooo.... YUP.
But, now I feel bad.. He's also extremely lovable and loyal, and funny as hell.

Heh, his name is Jason, and he was born on FRIDAY, nov. 13th, 1974. By the time he was a teen the 'Friday The 13th' movies were all the rage, he never lived that down.

Last apartment he had, he put a collection of hockey masks on the wall. That would be true Scorpio humor if you ask me.!

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posted November 06, 2010 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woah! Lol. Hmm. I had a friend with aqua sun moon and mercury..and virgo rising with a scorpio name. She always dressed in black, and said she was a pyromaniac and that she hated people at heart and would always cry in corners . I tried to help her as much as i could, but then she decided i wasn't good enough of a friend for her. She was pretty unrealostic, sadly. Very much ruled by her emotions, but being an aquarius she absolutely hated that fact and would always say she hated emotions.

I also know someone with a scorpio last name. She was pretty intense also, and i guess equally irrational and emotional. But she was a leo with an aquarius moon whcih i read makes for a very charming personality, so she was very popular, but an intense scorpio type that ud be scared of making angry at the same time. Hah.

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“Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone elses opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.”
Oscar Wilde

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posted November 06, 2010 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oscar Wilde would have a conniption if he were alive to see Facebook.

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posted November 06, 2010 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, not going to go back to our earlier discussion because clearly we are at a crossroads but I LOLed at my Name Description:

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# The native is often viewed by some as "misogynist." Although a woman, she has little sympathy for other women, accusing them of being "frivolous", not knowing what they want and always seek to take the men to their trap. Are hardly aware of the oppression and injustices perpetrated by the strong against sex said she and her sisters, she sees a dim view of the Movement for the Liberation of Women. Far from cooperating as is expected, it is considered more or less as a new form of blackmail women to get the appropriate privileges. If it does not constitute an obstacle to the progress of women toward gender equality, it does not make it the apostle either.

My goodness. This made my day. This is the exact opposite of me. I am a feminist (and not the kind of feminist that Sarah Palin calls herself or whatever).

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posted November 06, 2010 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol, you're funny, Amowls

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posted November 06, 2010 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now I'm really curious. Going to the website....

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The reason why I hate generalizations is I already get generalized as a "black" person..why do I want to get generalized by my sign too..?

Just get to know me as me, not for the fact Im black, young, or my astrology sign..*sighs*

You just don't know how annoying it is to have a person say "black women get mad so easily thats why I don't date them, but your different Kat.."

Like seriously give me a break man..

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Oscar Wilde would have a conniption if he were alive to see Facebook.

Damn right he would! FB is just insane lol

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posted November 07, 2010 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cheshire Kat, you can't avoid that whether you're black or white. I've had people tell me sometimes: "you're so quiet, why are you so quiet?" or they either ask me if I'm shy or tell me that I am. They ask me all kinds of things like, you're a very private person, aren't you? Some either freely give me advice telling me I need to be more this way or that way. I'm not kidding lol. People are crazy!

I've had people tell me, too, that I'm Cuban so I should know how to dance salsa, or all about santeria. Or that I'm a bookworm because I can't go to parties because I need to study for a test. (btw hello? This is why the person who told me that is failing. Lol)

If astrology were accepted by everyone as true I'm sure people would tell you all the time that you're not the typical virgo or scorpio. But my point is that, it's rude regardless. And they should know not to say that. And my other point is people are gonna be rude and tell u some stupid shiz ANYWAY lol. You know? You can't be like "oh no, let's not do this because it's one more reason for ppl to stereotype me." If I had that attitude I would listen to people when they told me the ish they do. I would try to change my personality and think there's something wrong with me, I would go learn santeria and salsa just cuz they said i should, and i would be failing school LOL. So, my point is, people are gonna be rude anyway, so that is NO reason to say we shouldn't see sun signs as having key traits in common.

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posted November 07, 2010 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is gonna be late but....I get what you mean, Runaroundscreaming. Yes, we shouldn't generalize sun signs but even sun signs themselves have some sort of uniting 'essence' (sorry Jane, I'm stealing your words). I mean, if we are so bloody adamant about counting the rest of our chart, why should we completely disregard the sun which symbolizes psychologically what we identify with? Its just sooo hypocritical to me when people do that. I understand that maybe some people are unhappy with the way others poorly interpret their astrological signs but that problem is with the author, not the planet.

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posted November 08, 2010 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sorry to hear that you don't like us earth signs, RAS.
I would say it's because of the leo in your chart. Usually leos don't get along with earth signs (especially not with us Virgos).
My closest friends are cancers and they never complained about me being too boring.
I was pretty boring and depressed in high school though...but that was because I was really unhappy. Now I am quite jovial :-)
I am always the one talking to everyone first to get to know them.

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