posted February 11, 2013 09:12 PM            

On the other hand, I have easy Moon to Venus and was an unabashed player operating a revolving door. No shortage of demand and I made supply readily available. I was like washed up by the time I got married. Seen it all and done it all. Desentisized to the whole experience. Seriously, what's the point of a lot of experience?

posted February 11, 2013 09:19 PM            

It's what makes one happy that matters.

We should be able to be free and make our own choices and go for what brings us personal happiness without all the social repercussions and crap.

posted February 11, 2013 09:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
"Sun, sea and sex: More than 40% of women under 30 admit to having one-night stands on holiday"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2161003/More-40-women-30-adm it-having-night-stand-holiday.html

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posted February 11, 2013 09:22 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I understand this, though in a cynical way, and it's for 2 different reasons:

1. It's a polite way of asking if you want a virgin because very few (especially men) are going to admit to being that. Many people want virgins for a variety of reasons, ranging from practical to religious to egotistical. This gives a roundabout way to find people you're interested in without them having to admit to being virginal.

2. It's also a way for many men (and I suppose a few women) to find people for a brief fling or even one night stand. That is they're not looking for a relationship, they're looking for a quickie, and in fact may already be married. Men are notorious for this. And if a woman is "experienced" then he figures she's going to be that much easier for him to play before he tosses her aside like a used toy that no longer amuses him.

And the dating sites don't care, they just want people to use them so they can sell advertising space (and conduct other market research) so to actively discourage that would be for them to lose a lot of men, and as a result create a lot more frustration for women and thus lose money and perhaps even go out of biz. Therefore they facilitate cruel games like this with questions like that.

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Some guy also told me that men are attracted to virgins for the chase. And I dislike that. I dont find that flattering either. I mean to be seen as a mere trophy or a chase sucks sh *t.

posted February 11, 2013 09:28 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I find most porn ridiculous, too, and it sucks that too many men (and even some women) try to learn from that garbage.

That said, I think the "beauty and the beast" drivel that's rampant in the romance genre (be a loving doormat to a total jerk and he'll transform into a prince) is even worse. Actually, both porn for men and romance for women makes life harder for women, IMO.

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Oh I totally agree. I admit I was brainwashed by that disney nonsense. Thinking that the guy will be so perfect and some sort or hero. lol How lame right?

Bunch of bull.

I just want a guy who at the end of the day I can say I am good friends with. I want to be able to goof off, take like as a challenge like say set up a business together, learn a language, go live in a foreign country for a month, try climbing a mountain, just traveling and enjoying what he has to say, having him enjoy what I have to say. So I guess that sexual tension for me personally is very very low on the list.

I dont need that Fabio type of guy to sweep me off my feet nor do I want a guy next to me 24/7. I hate the idea that some women nag their men to spend time with them. To me that is a huge red flag. I mean if he doesnt willingly want to spend even 30 mins with...that is not a good sign and forcing him to be attached to your hip is like throwing rocks at an enraged elephant. Nothing good comes from it.

posted February 11, 2013 09:30 PM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
no i think tiger gave lots of money. i think they were all hookers/ pornstars no? correct me if i am wrong.

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Who knows?

I do know that one of the women was a manager of a club. I dont think she was an escort, porn star or hooker.

But if you have read his texts it seems like he knew what he was doing sexually lol...

He just didnt know how to be a good husband and father.

posted February 11, 2013 09:34 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Did someone say a 25+ virgin is a loser?

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i didn't but i pretty much did call the males that. normally high school and college is enough to at least experience a significant relationship. ...and work! i mean social circles broaden in a big way as you get older at least that has been my experience.

posted February 11, 2013 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by T:

Dear lord. Only guys would think of it like a sport - a trophy to win, or competition.

Over time it becomes better.

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posted February 11, 2013 09:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Who knows?

I do know that one of the women was a manager of a club. I dont think she was an escort, porn star or hooker.

But if you have read his texts it seems like he knew what he was doing sexually lol...

He just didnt know how to be a good husband and father.

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posted February 12, 2013 02:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Yes.. because all the women who HAVE quickies - don't want quickies... so women play the 'used toy' LOL (read: poor lil red riding hood attacked by the big bad wolf)

RIDI-cu-LASH.

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I've heard too many women...and men (gay & bi)...crying over a guy who said he wanted a relationship on a dating site who used them sexually and discarded them (and he sometimes turned out to be already married, and I've also heard of people catching their guy they're devoted to using those sites for quick hook ups as well and lying about being single to those they hook up with). If you'd keep your knee from jerking then I think what I meant would be obvious to you and not twist my assertion into something RIDI-cu-LASH.

And men tend to use dating sites (like Grindr) a lot different as well when they don't have to wave false intentions so much (though I have heard enough men complain about it).

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Originally posted by Odette:
"Sun, sea and sex: More than 40% of women under 30 admit to having one-night stands on holiday"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2161003/More-40-women-30-adm it-having-night-stand-holiday.html

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posted February 12, 2013 03:58 AM            

i dont see the connection between sex appeal and bad boys to be honest- i mean some bad boys have sex appeal some do not, some good boys have sex appeal some dont.

i also think you should take a closer look at the girls attracted to him because like attracts like - maybe they are not such great catches themselves-there was this article about this man who had fathered i think 11 children or something insane and you should have SEEN the women who let him spunk into them- honestly most men would take a pass and grab a girlie mag instead- i bet the yare the type to cheat, be lazy and selfish jsut as much as he is.

ive met guys who say that they are the nice guy and girls only like bad boys and honestly one guy in particular- he wasnt nice at all- i found him quite rude and surly and i would sure as **** choose a ''bad'' boy who might be unreliable from time to time to him being bitchy and critical and bitter but always turning up on time- i mean jeez if that is the choice i might as well have fun!

i jsut dont think it is your place to ''warn'' women and to be honest if some man tried to warn me off another man id probably ignore him as well because i would wonder what his game was.

to be honest the ONE time i got involved with a ''bad boy'' i really was not interested as i knew he was a bit of a ''modeliser'' but he was so persistant, at the same time as being persistent he was really rude to me and mean and just ugh anyway after i slept with him he got very needy and always wanted to see me and the dynamics changed- i just find once you sleep with a guy the power shifts into my favour and i feel more secure- but yah bad boys are not always so clear cut and if you show them something a bit different they can show you a different side to them as well. in the end i ended it and he was still contacting me 9 months later whilst i was living abroad.

posted February 12, 2013 04:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
There is a difference from one culture to another and from one country to another.

Which country are you from?

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My post above was made in response to aquaguy saying that 'things are different in the US' with regards to most women falling for losers/players/womanizers.

posted February 12, 2013 04:17 AM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jessica2407:
[b]But I think if a woman is saying out loud for everyone to hear that she wants a ''good and honest man'' She needs to be able to put her foot down when she finds out that the guy she has fallen for is actually a player. I know a girl who is going with a guy for 2 years and she knows pretty well that he is a player but still can't make the right move to get rid of him and has the audacity to tell me that she craves for something more serious. I often do not have patience for women like her, so I will be quite blunt. If you say you want a honest man, look for men who are honest not men who only want to screw around!

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posted February 12, 2013 04:17 AM            

I don't really believe being a virgin has to do much with zodiac signs. I know three girls that were born the exact same day, same year, probably different hours (so that would change the houses), and they were totally different regarding to sex.

The first one has been sexually active since we were like 14 or 15,and was an early bloomer. She was you know the rock, edgy type, not a very good student, though she was really smart. Looks like Avril Lavigne, if anyone has seen the film Poison Ivy, maybe a girl like that (without the family drama and the involvment with older guys)

The second one was a normal typical teenage girl,good student, she had her first boyfriend when 17 and they had sex by that time, when she was 18-19. So you could see this was pretty normal.

And the third one, well she grew up in a very conservative house, where her parents pushed her constantly for good grades, but she's a very conservative person herself too. She is 22 now and from my knowledge she hasn't had sex yet, probably not even had her first kiss.

So you see, three girls, born the same day & year, and so diffirent regarding to their sexual life (and their life in general I'd say)
So I beleive being a virgin hasn't really anything to do with signs.

I could post their chart if anyone is interested.

posted February 12, 2013 07:23 AM            

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So I beleive being a virgin hasn't really anything to do with signs.

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posted February 12, 2013 07:38 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

You can believe,although I don't know why you deal with astrology if you came up with this type of conclusion. (of use it as a premise)
3 girls,3 different Asc,same planetary potential (with exception of Moon) with 3 different genetic & personal background,bringing up,and probably 3 different temperements.

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I love astrology and that's why I'm here, but I think that some things probably depend more on the way you were raised than your chart.

A thing like that is virginity. For instance I'm not from the US, and in my country having sex before getting married is considered normal and expected, but from my knowledge there are many places in the US (and correct if I'm wrong) where people wait till marriage, mostly due to their faith.

So if two people are born even the same hour, year and day, many differences between them will exist due to the different way they were raised.

posted February 12, 2013 08:46 AM            

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Originally posted by sharpei:
you can believe in astrology but not be RULED by it...

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And your point would be? I was refering to the conclusion that could very well be faulty due to not taking into account all the info.
Obvously,I won't be sending you my extra ticket for astrosatanic get togethers,well,not with that attitude won't. You are missin out on loads of bloody fun.

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
I love astrology and that's why I'm here, but I think that some things probably depend more on the way you were raised than your chart

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You can't deferentiate things like that. One's upbrining favours one or the other part of your astro potential. I have angular Aries Mars but my upbringing always favoured books over sports. So,my Mercury grew stronger (Virgo Mercury) than Mars.

posted February 12, 2013 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
You can't deferentiate things like that. One's upbrining favours one or the other part of your astro potential. I have angular Aries Mars but my upbringing always favoured books over sports. So,my Mercury grew stronger (Virgo Mercury) than Mars.

Your examples are 3 different worlds,a mixture of their nurture meets mature and astro potential. Not to mention you totally (or conveniently) forgot about their rising sings. The ASC is the making of a chart : you understand how Sun in H8 is different from Sun in H3,for example.

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Yeah you're definitely right about the house of the Sun. But in general they have common traits in their behaviour. The virginity thing/their sexual life, is probably one of the few things that sticks out between them as something very different.

posted February 12, 2013 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
in other systems you can tell how you interact with your environment. still it's hard to decipher virginity. in theory i suppose if one has peach blossoms stars they are more likely to not be.

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Re: peach blossoms (honestly hadn't it been for this rather cool name,I wouldn't be interested at a l l )

I found out I don't have peach blossoms but something that is called red peach blossom. Ring any bell?

posted February 12, 2013 09:11 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
^And it still wouldn't be a good experiment... Let's say 3 person born with same bday + time of birth. Then same culture. The same social standings of the parents. And then comparisons.

Re: peach blossoms (honestly hand't been for this rather cool name,I wouldn't be interested at a l l )

I find out I don't have peach blossoms but something that is called red peach blossom. Ring any bell?

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u have them just not the way i know how to tell. i.e. the simple way

...and they come in transits so lots of opportunities to lose it there. i believe u did actually lose yours during your transit but those things last a decade anyway.

posted February 12, 2013 09:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Some guy also told me that men are attracted to virgins for the chase. And I dislike that. I dont find that flattering either. I mean to be seen as a mere trophy or a chase sucks sh *t.

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posted February 12, 2013 09:17 AM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
u have them just not the way i know how to tell. i.e. the simple way

...and they come in transits so lots of opportunities to lose it there. i believe u did actually lose yours during your transit but those things last a decade anyway.

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*le sigh*

Transit? (nevermind those pesky 15-25 blossoms,just natally)

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