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Jessica2407
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posted February 11, 2013 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
you fail to see the point i'm trying to make.. i'm saying that most people go with the crowd and dont think for themselves. yes ryan gosling is a good looking dude imo, and he is regarded as such by pretty much all women, but how many of them actually find him attractive for who he is, and not just because everyone else finds him attractive? its the same with guys and women like megan fox , i personally dont find her all that attractive, but basically every other guy does...

* I do not find Ryan Gosling that attractive*

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ail221
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posted February 11, 2013 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrologically I don't think there is one aspect that could signify virginity well maybe asteroids, asteroids tell you everything

It could be mars in hard aspect to saturn but also mars & saturn touching the ascendant I have seen in two cases, the ruler of the 8th in the 7th, saturn in the 5th 7th, or 8th etc. Plus many people have different definitions of what is considered a virgin especially with the ideas of gender identity varying.

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I'm so cappy
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posted February 11, 2013 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neither I, so what?

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Do you have some chocolate?

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aquaguy91
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posted February 11, 2013 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
LOL, true. I can smell guys who are playing games like that, and further more I tend to "know" Aqua guys. For one Aquarius' can't argue and two, I can make a guy feel so stupid and he'll end up regretting pulling that kind of trick on me. PEW PEW.

its funny that you say that because you openly admit you like guys who are mysterious and a challenge.. i hate to be the one to break the news to ya but those
are only pretty words to substitute for player, thats all they are... i was a challenge to that girl... when i was open and honest about who i was and how i felt i wasnt attractive to her. but when i became a "challenge" cough*cough*player cough*cough*manipulator, i was suddenly desirable. funny how that works isnt it?

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ail221
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posted February 11, 2013 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WELL you aren't 25 yet come back in a few years.

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posted February 11, 2013 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
you fail to see the point i'm trying to make.. i'm saying that most people go with the crowd and dont think for themselves. yes ryan gosling is a good looking dude imo, and he is regarded as such by pretty much all women, but how many of them actually find him attractive for who he is, and not just because everyone else finds him attractive? its the same with guys and women like megan fox , i personally dont find her all that attractive, but basically every other guy does...

#gametheory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d_dtTZQyUM

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Odette
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posted February 11, 2013 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aquaguy - the day you bump into this girl again and openly & honestly discuss what happened and she tells you her side of the story and then she comes on here and posts it on LL ---- if that story sounds like yours, I'll take back everything I said. LoL

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posted February 11, 2013 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sharpei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i know i have already told this story a few times, but i.think it is extremely relevant to this discussion , so i'll tell it again... a few years ago i was interested in this girl and we had lots in common and got along great and i was interested in having a relationship with her, but she wasnt interested in me that way.... so i decided to play a little trick on her, i started being aloof and telling her all kinds of lies, i told her that i was going to clubs to meet random girls to hook up, and all of a sudden she changed her tune.. she was calling me and texting nonstop, she even told me she loved me... so the moral of the story is "I" wasnt good enough for her by my own merits, she had to think i was some stud who was desirable to a large number of women... our amazing mental/emotional connection wasnt enough, what others thought mattered more.... and the majority of people in the world are alot like her, they dont think for themselves and care too much what others think.

the fact you would even think to play such a game says alot about you though- it ends up a self forfilling prophecy that kind of thinking and those kind of actions. just be chill and girls will like you.

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Odette
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posted February 11, 2013 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it says that he is 22.. and he was prolly 19 at the time.. and we all hope he'll grow out of this whole, whatever it is.

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posted February 11, 2013 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
its funny that you say that because you openly admit you like guys who are mysterious and a challenge.. i hate to be the one to break the news to ya but those
are only pretty words to substitute for player, thats all they are... i was a challenge to that girl... when i was open and honest about who i was and how i felt i wasnt attractive to her. but when i became a "challenge" cough*cough*player cough*cough*manipulator, i was suddenly desirable. funny how that works isnt it?

I like guys that are challenging mentally as in competitive, who inspire me to be better! It's a lot different than a guy who's f*cking with my emotions by lying to me. I don't like that and I don't have time for it. A guy who is bragging to me about going to a club to pick up girls, hook up with girls, get "tail" is not mysterious - he's a douche in my eyes regardless if I'm interested in him or not. Nice try though.

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posted February 11, 2013 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think being a virgin out of choice despite having had relationships is really admirable. I mean getting sex is easy, but holding out when people ask u out often and if u do get in relationships take strong self-control.

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Jessica2407
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posted February 11, 2013 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I like guys that are challenging mentally as in competitive, who inspire me to be better! It's a lot different than a guy who's f*cking with my emotions by lying to me. I don't like that and I don't have time for it. A guy who is bragging to me about going to a club to pick up girls, hook up with girls, get "tail" is not mysterious - he's a douche in my eyes regardless if I'm interested in him or not. Nice try though.

A mega douche.

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posted February 11, 2013 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Challenge in the sense they have opinions, have a backbone and ain't just a yes man.
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
its funny that you say that because you openly admit you like guys who are mysterious and a challenge.. i hate to be the one to break the news to ya but those
are only pretty words to substitute for player, thats all they are... i was a challenge to that girl... when i was open and honest about who i was and how i felt i wasnt attractive to her. but when i became a "challenge" cough*cough*player cough*cough*manipulator, i was suddenly desirable. funny how that works isnt it?

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Jessica2407
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posted February 11, 2013 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If a guy brags to me about picking up other girls, I WILL drop him like a hot potato. Sorry. He's not a challenge. He's an A-hole-To ME.

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posted February 11, 2013 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Challenge in the sense they have opinions, have a backbone and ain't just a yes man.

See, I knew everyone else understands what being a "challenge" means.

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posted February 11, 2013 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Luminosity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that it's true that people tend to fail to think for themselves when it comes to who they are attracted to. However, I also think it is worth mentioning that there are a lot of people out there with really low self-esteem who get excited at the idea of dating someone who is a player. If a person had a lot of self respect then they wouldn't settle for someone who obviously was only going to feed them crumbs, refuse to commit, and treat them poorly. I dated a couple of players myself when I was younger and it wasnt necessarily because I was following what everyone else did, it was mostly because I didn't value myself enough at that point in time.

Now that I know better if someone shows the signs of being a player like those guys did that I dated in the past, I would confront them about it and ask them to be clear about what they wanted. These types of people mostly all have similar patterns of behavior that I am much better at catching now.

I have heard a lot of people, especially girls, say that they wished they had waited a little bit longer to have sex because the person they chose to lose their virginity with wasn't worth it and didn't truly appreciate them.

But I do agree about the herd mentality. A lot of people lose their virginity largely because they are scared that they will be ostracized by their peers if they keep it. It's very sad in this day and age that losing your virginity at 14, 15 is considered normal. I mean, if you are in a loving relationship with your high school sweetheart perhaps that is one thing, but I know so many girls who would go to parties in high shool and college and hook up with people they didn't even really know that well. If that's the lifestyle that someone chooses then perhaps I have no place to judge but I can't help but feel sad that people are so jaded these days. Sex isn't special anymore because its so readily available.

I think that a lot less guys would be douchebags if women started holding back and letting them know that disrespectful behavior isn't acceptable. But a lot of girls put up with it because they have really low self esteem. This of course puts nice guys in a difficult situation that they don't deserve to be in. They are the guys we REALLY should be focusing our attention on instead of ignoring or friend-zoning.

Again, it all comes down to knowing that you are worth it, anything worth having is worth waiting for.

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posted February 11, 2013 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nevertheless, I've noticed there is a good bunch of very strong women, who know their worth in this forum, so I believe the herd mentality can turn things around in the end.

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posted February 11, 2013 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with everything you said except saying "a lot" of girls. Some do have low self esteem. Others do not have this problem. Just because aquaguy chooses to focus on girls with issues that doesn't mean they are the only girls alive or that they are in the majority.

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aquaguy91
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posted February 11, 2013 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
Challenge in the sense they have opinions, have a backbone and ain't just a yes man.

by that logic i should be crawling in women lol. ya'll have seen me on here enough to know im going to speak my mind even if people hate and shame me for it... i speak the truth the way i see it even if i suffer for it... and its not just on this forum , i do the same thing in my everyday life... i am not a pushover by any means.. in my interactions with women i have been interested in i have been honest for the most and been real, except for that time lol. but they are never interested in me , i see them with the type of guy i pretended to be that time... but yet i speak up and try to have an open dialogue about all this and i'm the bad guy lol. go figure

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posted February 11, 2013 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't hate you aquaguy!

You seem to have a linear way of thinking when it comes to women. There are women out there, who don't have low esteem issues, there are women who don't think the way you think they think, that's all.

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posted February 11, 2013 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I agree with everything you said except saying "a lot" of girls. Some do have low self esteem. Others do not have this problem. Just because aquaguy chooses to focus on girls with issues that doesn't mean they are the only girls alive or that they are in the majority.

first of all, you dont live here in the u.s. things are alot different where you are i'm sure. plus most of the people who have the issues i'm talking about will deny them just as vehemently as the people on this forum, my mom being one of those.

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Odette
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posted February 11, 2013 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. That is all.

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posted February 11, 2013 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
first of all, you dont live here in the u.s. things are alot different where you are i'm sure. plus most of the people who have the issues i'm talking about will deny them just as vehemently as the people on this forum, my mom being one of those.

Except you don't talk about PEOPLE with issues. You talk about women with issues ONLY, and you do so frequently just to stir up s.it and watch it transpire. Checkmate.

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posted February 11, 2013 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok.. So the people denying this are all lying and you are the only one who is correct and seeing things clearly?

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posted February 11, 2013 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Except you don't talk about PEOPLE with issues. You talk about women with issues ONLY, and you do so frequently just to stir up s.it and watch it transpire. Checkmate.

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