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andstuff
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posted February 11, 2013 08:22 AM
  
well, i personally think that late bloomers would get too obsessed when they finally get their hands on a romantic relationship. this is something i don't want and don't need. i want as much as someone who knows how to act around the opposite sex and doesn't stammer when asking out for a coffee - late bloomers are more prone to do this than others. i have seen too many guys who have that wistful air of Waiting! For! The! One!, that horrible emotional hunger, all that unwasted libido and whatnot - help me God to run away. IP: Logged |
LoVeLy
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posted February 11, 2013 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Im extremely picky though.
I would prefer a virgin actually. Not that virginity is about religion etc. To me its means the person has no baggage. I like the idea that he would not have been banging other chicks, no stds etc. Also with me telling men that Im not gonna sleep around helps me filter guys quickly and save time. The ones that cant live without jumping into bed, probably cant control themselves and that to me is extremely unattractive.
I would suspect that those men would be the ones that fall to urges since they never really had enough self discipline to begin with. To me that isnt stable marriage material. I like the idea of being someones first and sharing something intimate with my husband. The first time might be awkward and not as beautiful as people make it but to me it is special. I mean a guy, who shares my mentality and decides he would rather wait for the right girl rather than poke every girl on the street, would be really strong mentally, someone, who can delay immediate gratification for his values or priorities, someone, who to me has his life in order. Also I dont like that ick factor of one night stands. Having to be so close to someone I barely know. His breath. His nail dirt. Did he clean down there? How does he eat? Is he hygenic or just one who sprays on tons of cologne? Is he a nut, psycho, serial killer? Did he just kill someone before getting here to have a one nighter with me? Does he hurt animals? Does he have a weirdo habit? Are his family memebers lunatics? Does he have an ex gf who might stalk me? What about a wife? Has he raped someone? Is he a pedophile? Does he have HIV? Does he have an STD? Just too many negative things would be running through my mind. There are so many girls killed, raped, drugged etc like this. I think there was a recent one? Elizabeth 'Lizzi' Marriott. I would be more happy when I felt safe and secure and in the right mans arms. sun: gemini-cancer
moon: scorpio
asc: scorpio
venus: leo
mars: gemini
jupiter: sag
saturn: libra
uranus: sag
neptune: sag
pluto: libra
true node: gemini
chiron: gemini I seriously would not rate sex as the most important thing for me to have an emotional mental, and even physical connection.
And say he was a perfect man who didnt know what he was doing? Why in the world would I dump an otherwise perfect man for a sex addict? If you need lots of experience to have/ learn sex then there has to be something wrong with you upstairs. Seriously. How does one need so much experience to figure out a basic biological experience? You have to be a modern day dodo bird not to get it right. So when I hear: *Oh girl, I have tons of experience.*
*Damn I know how to run this motor.*
*I have spent year perfecting this...* *Years of experience all packed down there. It runs on automatic.* I have to laugh in that persons face for what they just un wittingly admitted to me. Anyway....It is what it is. I am not preaching my point just stating my opinion. I know it isnt popular in this country but in other countries it is. : /
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Hera
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posted February 11, 2013 08:29 AM
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If you need lots of experience to have/ learn sex then there has to be something wrong with you upstairs. Seriously. How does one need so much experience to figure out a basic biological experience? You have to be a modern day dodo bird not to get it right.
Depends what you want from the experience. Tantric sex requires tons of experience.
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andstuff
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posted February 11, 2013 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Depends what you want from the experience. Tantric sex requires tons of experience.
i lol'ed besides it's really weird to reduce sexual relationships to sheer technique. there's tons of other issues involved that require experience. power play for example. IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 11, 2013 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Depends what you want from the experience. Tantric sex requires tons of experience.
Diddy sez u just have to scatter rose petals and moisturize. He is a scorpio.  #instatantra IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted February 11, 2013 08:47 AM
Well it's instinctual, organic and comes easily for some of us.. It depends on the person's chart and their synastry with the partner. Not everyone psychologically complicates the crap out of sex. I wouldn't have a problem with it if the guy was a virgin as long as he's my kind of person and we have chemistry. andstuff - what you said about being too keen doesn't make sense. Supposedly this person would have more self control than the average Joe, not less. And power plays happen in many different ways and areas of life. You don't have to have sex to be aware of that either. Also it depends what we mean by virgin because the guy/girl in question could've done sexual things with no penetration involved.. they could've had a dozen relationships and not actually had vaginal intercourse.. It depends on what we define as sex..
Gay couples would be in a different basket of cookies as well. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted February 11, 2013 08:54 AM
Hera - I'm really attracted to tantra. I've never tried anything like that though. But my impression was that tantric techniques awaken something that is already there emotionally/instinctually. You still have to let go and go with the flow of the experience. I think people 'let go' and give into things when they get to a point where they realise its OK and it can feel great. Practising doesn't always get you there though..IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 11, 2013 09:43 AM
taoist interests me more than tantric. idk y... earthy me just sees no point in much about spirituality and meditation. but longevity and better health sounds great to me. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted February 11, 2013 09:48 AM
i always find the logic that people who are unlucky in the love/sex department must be defective /losers kind of funny... especially when you consider the kinds of people who get the most action.. lots of guys who are successful getting tons ofwomen into bed are losers,plain and simple... that goes with women who are good with men too.. its assinine imo to think that somebody would meet somebody who is a good person, educated, has a good job etc.. but pass them up because they are a virgin or sexually inexperienced... so instead they choose an unemployed druggie with a narcissistic personality because he is "experienced" therefore he is somehow superior to the other man .. i'm sorry but that just doesnt add up..
also if you think someone who has been rejected and had bad luck finding a partner is defective by default, you have way too much hope in the human race ... because by thinking that way you assume that men/women always/or almost always make good choices.. if you dont think that lots of people pass up good men/women everyday you are an idiot. just my thoughts on the matter.IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 11, 2013 10:11 AM
^it's sex. not logic.  u cannot quantify sex appeal or energy and say this man is a druggie that doesn't have a job. therefore he is not sexy or worthy of bedding women. haven't u seen someone dance or sing and just want to bed them? it's the vibration and the giving off of this energy and that it is intangible and irrational that makes it so interesting. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted February 11, 2013 10:20 AM
well i live in the realm of rational thought, so i wouldnt know anything about all of that. all i know is that stuff ****** me off . my dad was a real ladies man back in the day but he had tons of issues, tons.. he was a drug addict, alcoholic, cheater, abusive, and wasnt exactly the best dad either... however he, and other men like him are very popular with women. now even though i'm not a virgin, i have had very little experience if you consider how promiscuous people are these days. which is all well and good , but i draw the line at being called a loser for not being good with women, because they tend to choose the types of men i mentioned above, is that my fault? no... IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 11, 2013 10:22 AM
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good person, educated, has a good job
many women are like this too and they are single. i suppose because they are base requirements. almost everybody strives to be "good". most people are educated and work. with nothing to differentiate them from everyone else. i might call this mediocrity even. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted February 11, 2013 10:25 AM
Basically you can have chemistry with another completely regardless of whether or not they are a virgin or a drug addict, employed or unemployed IMO
Whether or not you act on the chemistry is another matter. IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 11, 2013 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
well i live in the realm of rational thought, so i wouldnt know anything about all of that. all i know is that stuff ****** me off . my dad was a real ladies man back in the day but he had tons of issues, tons.. he was a drug addict, alcoholic, cheater, abusive, and wasnt exactly the best dad either... however he, and other men like him are very popular with women. now even though i'm not a virgin, i have had very little experience if you consider how promiscuous people are these days. which is all well and good , but i draw the line at being called a loser for not being good with women, because they tend to choose the types of men i mentioned above, is that my fault? no...
and what kind of women did your father attract? would you be into those types of women? (i don't mean your mom btw.) you can have tons of experience without being promiscuous. just have longer relationships. so u blame... women? IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted February 11, 2013 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by peregrine:
many women are like this too and they are single. i suppose because they are base requirements. almost everybody strives to be "good". most people are educated and work. with nothing to differentiate them from everyone else. i might call this mediocrity even.
well i know guys who are unemployed and sit on their butts all day , heck one doesnt even have a drivers license or a high school diploma.. but yet guys like this get women, but yet i'm the loser , oh wait its because i dont have "sex appeal"...it all makes perfect sense now
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Odette
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posted February 11, 2013 10:37 AM
Personally I see these things as collateral, not substantial. I mean anyone, given difficult life circumstances can end up drug addicted.
If person A was sexually attracted to person B when person B was clean&sober.... they would still be attracted if B became an alcoholic. But obviously if their relationship deteriorates due to B's alcohol problem A might dump B. That doesn't necessarily mean A is no longer sexually attracted though.I do understand your logic aqua guy.. and it makes perfect sense that we should all choose people who meet certain criteria and who are good for us.. But attraction is not something you can really control. I mean you can't control *who* you feel attracted to.. although you can control how you choose to handle your attraction and whether or not you take things further. For some people it's not so easy to say "no" though. I mean imagine a situation that is closer to home for you. You were very much into the Libra girl you mentioned. Lets say she had some serious problems and turned to drugs and alcohol. Do you think it would be so easy to let her go simply because she would now be a drug addict or unemployed? IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 11, 2013 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by peregrine:
[b] many women are like this too and they are single. i suppose because they are base requirements. almost everybody strives to be "good". most people are educated and work. with nothing to differentiate them from everyone else. i might call this mediocrity even.
well i know guys who are unemployed and sit on their butts all day , heck one doesnt even have a drivers license or a high school diploma.. but yet guys like this get women, but yet i'm the loser , oh wait its because i dont have "sex appeal"...it all makes perfect sense now [/B][/QUOTE] quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
^dont hate the player.. hate the game!
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aquaguy91
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posted February 11, 2013 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by peregrine:
and what kind of women did your father attract? would you be into those types of women? (i don't mean your mom btw.)you can have tons of experience without being promiscuous. just have longer relationships. so u blame... women?
do i blame women ? yes and no... i blame modern culture as a whole for bein effed up... the bottom line is most people have a sheep mentality and want what everyone else wants... they dont think for themselves... so if a man /woman is desired by lots other people everyone else desires them as well... and its sad and pathetic in my opinion.IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 11, 2013 10:49 AM
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I mean imagine a situation that is closer to home for you. You were very much into the Libra girl you mentioned. Lets say she had some serious problems and turned to drugs and alcohol. Do you think it would be so easy to let her go simply because she would now be a drug addict or unemployed?
word. i myself am very aware of red flags and your friends will say u deserve better or find somebody else but it's not really what i deserve... it's what i want!  IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted February 11, 2013 10:53 AM
i know i have already told this story a few times, but i.think it is extremely relevant to this discussion , so i'll tell it again... a few years ago i was interested in this girl and we had lots in common and got along great and i was interested in having a relationship with her, but she wasnt interested in me that way.... so i decided to play a little trick on her, i started being aloof and telling her all kinds of lies, i told her that i was going to clubs to meet random girls to hook up, and all of a sudden she changed her tune.. she was calling me and texting nonstop, she even told me she loved me... so the moral of the story is "I" wasnt good enough for her by my own merits, she had to think i was some stud who was desirable to a large number of women... our amazing mental/emotional connection wasnt enough, what others thought mattered more.... and the majority of people in the world are alot like her, they dont think for themselves and care too much what others think.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted February 11, 2013 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Odette:
Personally I see these things as collateral, not substantial. I mean anyone, given difficult life circumstances can end up drug addicted.
If person A was sexually attracted to person B when person B was clean&sober.... they would still be attracted if B became an alcoholic. But obviously if their relationship deteriorates due to B's alcohol problem A might dump B. That doesn't necessarily mean A is no longer sexually attracted though.I do understand your logic aqua guy.. and it makes perfect sense that we should all choose people who meet certain criteria and who are good for us.. But attraction is not something you can really control. I mean you can't control *who* you feel attracted to.. although you can control how you choose to handle your attraction and whether or not you take things further. For some people it's not so easy to say "no" though. I mean imagine a situation that is closer to home for you. You were very much into the Libra girl you mentioned. Lets say she had some serious problems and turned to drugs and alcohol. Do you think it would be so easy to let her go simply because she would now be a drug addict or unemployed?
well i agree that attraction isnt something that you can control, but there has to be more to a relationship then attraction. i'm not saying that druggies and such dont deserve love, because everyone needs love.. all im saying is the notion that people who arent lucky in dating/relationships are flawed losers is offensive and false... plenty of good people are single and plenty of bad people are in relationships.... people have a fairytale notion that the world is always just, but its not.IP: Logged |
Luminosity
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posted February 11, 2013 11:01 AM
I am still a virgin at 25 and am waiting until I find someone who really loves me and is dedicated to me. So far all the guys I have met have been very immature and incapable of supporting me emotionally. I have never met a guy who was on the same wavelength as me before either- there was always some way in which I felt misunderstood. I think it's worth the wait even though it's REALLY hard. I have sun in the 8th house in capricorn, mars in scorpio, pluto in scorpio as well...but I also have saturn in the 7th and I think that really effects how I view relationships. Sex nowadays is meaningless. It's just a fun hobby for a lot of people. It's not about having a deep connection for a lot of people, in fact, I have heard so many horror stories from women who have slept with guys they really were crazy about only to have the guy pull away and start ignoring them. This must be so heartbreaking. That's why I think it's a good idea to really get to know someone before you have sex with them. You never know what someone's motivations are until you are able to really get to understand them as a friend. Romance clouds our ability to view our love interests objectively but I think it's really important to try to do this. Otherwise we are selling ourselves short. For me sex is reserved for the people that really prove to me that they love me. While this does make my life harder in many ways I have been spared so much of the drama and heartache I have seen so many others go through. Being alone isn't easy but if you don't truly love yourself first and feel a sense of satisfaction on your own then your ability to love another will be very limited. Anyhow, I didn't mean to write a novel. This is just a topic I am passionate about  Luminosity IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 11, 2013 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by peregrine:
[b] and what kind of women did your father attract? would you be into those types of women? (i don't mean your mom btw.)you can have tons of experience without being promiscuous. just have longer relationships. so u blame... women?
do i blame women ? yes and no... i blame modern culture as a whole for bein effed up... the bottom line is most people have a sheep mentality and want what everyone else wants... they dont think for themselves... so if a man /woman is desired by lots other people everyone else desires them as well... and its sad and pathetic in my opinion.[/B][/QUOTE] i suppose theoretically it can seem to be like that ...but i think it goes back to energy and it's not that people are sheep but they pick up the same vibe from that person. sounds abit like different things btw. mc/ac. it's like this one person i had no idea y people kept getting infuriated with him. then he stayed with me for a few months and i ended up getting infuriated with him too! if u ask me y right now i cannot tell you but it was definitely from their actions and vibe.peregrine i think it's definitely in the charts. the placements. the aspects. all there. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted February 11, 2013 11:08 AM
She is one person.. and yes, some people would be like her. That doesn't mean it's a majority. There are other factors to take into account like age, background, overall life experience, psychological predispositions based on her parents & their own relationship, her natal chart.. etcDoing this with one girl or a couple of girls does not exactly give you accurate statistics about the rest of the world. Also we don't have her side of the story. Based on what you are saying, as I've told you before - it could've been a misunderstanding on your part eg. if you were friends so she cared about you as a friend and panicked about your sudden behaviour change... Or... if she had always had a crush on you but it was purely her personality to be distant towards people in general (some people are more guarded than others) but due to your crazy behaviour she freaked our thinking she would lose you and decided to be more forward -- this kinda thing happens.... So not having her side of the story, I'm not sure what to think of this anyway. I think I've already mentioned this as well... but basically, I've been in this kind of situation with a guy where he pretended to be something he wasn't and he completely misinterpreted my own behaviour. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted February 11, 2013 11:11 AM
I typed that ^^ after your earlier post. My comp is playing up :/ IP: Logged |
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