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I'm so cappy
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posted February 11, 2013 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What in someone's natal chart would make you think "holy crap, she/he still might a virgin"?

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peregrine
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posted February 11, 2013 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there has been a lot of talk on this in the forum but say u started at the legal age of 18. 7 years is not a lot of experience. in other words what i am saying is that it is easy to catch up lol!

it really depends... on may not feel worthy of love (venus-saturn) and if they have a conservative mars like (ahem) scorpio then they can wait for the right partners. it can easily take them late twenties to have sexual experiences. i was highly venus neptune in my youth. v v cheesy and mushy. but then sh1t got real.

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Haplesschild*
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posted February 11, 2013 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ haha all the Scorpio mars I've encountered are total ***** haha.. It is more mars in Cap or Pisces.

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posted February 11, 2013 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@peregrine: what's cheesy/mushy about Venus Neptune ? My loveliest romance took place during a Neptune - Venus transit and like hell am I ever gonna believe it wasn't real

Re OP I dunno. Retrograde Venus in Capricorn in an aspect to Saturn in the 7th. Something like that

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posted February 11, 2013 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
^ haha all the Scorpio mars I've encountered are total ***** haha.. It is more mars in Cap or Pisces.

I have scorpio sun-mars-pluto in the 8H, I'm an adult and never been intimate

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posted February 11, 2013 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@peregrine: what's cheesy/mushy about Venus Neptune ? My loveliest romance took place during a Neptune - Venus transit and like hell am I ever gonna believe it wasn't real

oh i don't wanna talk about it lol! but i may or may not have watched almost every romantic comedy up to the late nineties. thanks mom! i also probably fancied myself as the poorest man's pablo neruda! am much cooler now.

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posted February 11, 2013 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ haha all the Scorpio mars I've encountered are total ***** haha.. It is more mars in Cap or Pisces.

total whats?

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posted February 11, 2013 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i seem to be attracted to alot of virgo ascendants and they always have that vibe about them imo.

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peregrine
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posted February 11, 2013 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^no way! some are sex on fire. not the librarian type IMO. besides it's only a mask. i'd post my ex.. virgo rising, cancer sun, leo moon but you'd come closer and closer to deciphering my real identity.

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posted February 11, 2013 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I fall into this bunch.

And no Im not hideous, a geek, or a nun.

Im extremely picky though.
I would prefer a virgin actually.

Not that virginity is about religion etc. To me its means the person has no baggage. I like the idea that he would not have been banging other chicks, no stds etc.

Also with me telling men that Im not gonna sleep around helps me filter guys quickly and save time.

The ones that cant live without jumping into bed, probably cant control themselves and that to me is extremely unattractive.
I would suspect that those men would be the ones that fall to urges since they never really had enough self discipline to begin with. To me that isnt stable marriage material.

I like the idea of being someones first and sharing something intimate with my husband. The first time might be awkward and not as beautiful as people make it but to me it is special. I mean a guy, who shares my mentality and decides he would rather wait for the right girl rather than poke every girl on the street, would be really strong mentally, someone, who can delay immediate gratification for his values or priorities, someone, who to me has his life in order.

Also I dont like that ick factor of one night stands. Having to be so close to someone I barely know. His breath. His nail dirt. Did he clean down there? How does he eat? Is he hygenic or just one who sprays on tons of cologne? Is he a nut, psycho, serial killer? Did he just kill someone before getting here to have a one nighter with me? Does he hurt animals? Does he have a weirdo habit? Are his family memebers lunatics? Does he have an ex gf who might stalk me? What about a wife? Has he raped someone? Is he a pedophile? Does he have HIV? Does he have an STD? Just too many negative things would be running through my mind. There are so many girls killed, raped, drugged etc like this. I think there was a recent one? Elizabeth 'Lizzi' Marriott.

I would be more happy when I felt safe and secure and in the right mans arms.

sun: gemini-cancer
moon: scorpio
asc: scorpio
venus: leo
mars: gemini
jupiter: sag
saturn: libra
uranus: sag
neptune: sag
pluto: libra
true node: gemini
chiron: gemini

Also, I know of one girl that told me I should test out the car before buying. I seriously would not rate sex as the most important thing for me to have an emotional mental, and even physical connection.
And say he was a perfect man who didnt know what he was doing? Why in the world would I dump an otherwise perfect man for a sex addict?

Also, it isnt damn rocket science. Even someone with a low IQ person figures it out. And think about it. Biological needs such as urinating, defecating, crying, eating, breathing are not taught. I have heard people actually brag about how much experience they have or needed.

*Hmmm well you need lots of experience to be any good at it.*

If you need lots of experience to have/ learn sex then there has to be something wrong with you upstairs. Seriously. How does one need so much experience to figure out a basic biological experience? You have to be a modern day dodo bird not to get it right. So when I hear:

*Oh girl, I have tons of experience.*
*Damn I know how to run this motor.*
*I have spent year perfecting this...* *Years of experience all packed down there. It runs on automatic.*

I have to laugh in that persons face for what they just un wittingly admitted to me.

Anyway....It is what it is. I am not preaching my point just stating my opinion. I know it isnt popular in this country but in other countries it is. : /

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posted February 11, 2013 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peregrine:
^no way! some are sex on fire. not the librarian type IMO. besides it's only a mask. i'd post my ex.. virgo rising, cancer sun, leo moon but you'd come closer and closer to deciphering my real identity.

i never said they were actually innocent, they just give off that vibe or have that look about them. one girl i was interested in a few years ago was an aqua with virgo ascendant and i got that virgin vibe, but she was actually very promiscuous..and i know who you are.

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posted February 11, 2013 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm... batman!

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andstuff
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posted February 11, 2013 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Dreaming

I wouldn't condemn people with values different from yours

I would NEVER sleep with a virgin/late bloomer

If there's no buyer there's a 99.9% probability that something's wrong with the product, id rather not give it a chance.

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posted February 11, 2013 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i'm... batman!

you are whats by the ocean.... the stuff that stings when it gets stuck in ur buttcrack!

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posted February 11, 2013 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Dreaming

I wouldn't condemn people with values different from yours

I would NEVER sleep with a virgin/late bloomer

If there's no buyer there's a 99.9% probability that something's wrong with the product, id rather not give it a chance.


Did you ever consider the possibility that a virgin may be turning down offers? It is not hard to get sex. I've seen men sleep with the most crazed, psychotic, hideous women and vice versa. A lot of people (not saying everyone) will sleep with anyone who has a pulse. It doesn't matter who they are, what they look like or even whether they have terrible hygiene as long as they are physically able to have sex.

If ugly (both inside and out) and truly psychotic people can get sex, what makes you think an average looking and pleasant virgin can't?

One of my coworkers brags quite a bit about his prowess in bed since he is so experienced. It is true that he has slept with many women. However, experience does not necessarily indicate that a person is good in bed. Quality matters far more than quantity. The worst ones are those who do not care about their partner's pleasure. Virgin or not--as long as the person is considerate of others, eager to please and refuses to lie there like a dead fish, they will be good.

Also, each person likes different things. Something that may have driven one person wild in bed may be a complete turn off to someone else. That's why sleeping with plenty of people doesn't matter: each person has different preferences. A person who is good in bed actually learns what their individual partner likes.

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posted February 11, 2013 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by peregrine:
[b]i'm... batman!


you are whats by the ocean.... the stuff that stings when it gets stuck in ur buttcrack! [/B][/QUOTE]

Jellyfish?

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posted February 11, 2013 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Biological needs such as urinating, defecating, crying, eating, breathing are not taught. I have heard people actually brag about how much experience they have or needed.

Actually, a lot of those ARE learned from experience. Take eating for example, just to get more food in than out takes some babies a long time to learn. And then there's table manners, how to use silverware (or chopsticks, etc) proficiently, how not to burn yourself in preparing & handling food, how not to disgust everyone around you, how to eat healthy, and...most of all...how to make food that's delicious and enjoyable rather than berries (careful they're not poisoned!) from the bush. That all takes years of learning & practice. Sure, anyone can pick an apple off the tree (and even then some have to learn not to pick up an apple off the ground!) but a person who has learned what to do can make apple pie, apple sauce, apple cinnamon biscuits, apple skillet, etc, which is far more pleasant than eating another apple. Many people take a lot of pride in their cooking skills (while others are derided for their unhealthy eating habits and uncouth table manners), and rightly so. Sure, anyone can eat, but to make eating enjoyable and fulfilling takes skill & practice.

Of course a lot of experience doesn't equal expertise. A person who ate a thousand apples off an apple tree could still not be able to serve up anything better or practice cleanliness or avoid being gross, and that's same for sex. For example, it's amazing to me how many men (even very experienced ones) believe that all he has to do to be good is to "be really big and last longer than 2 minutes." Not to mention a really important detail so many men don't even think of...well, this is not Sweet Peas so I won't say, so I'll just say that just like cooking & eating, there's plenty to learn, practice, and try.

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posted February 11, 2013 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andstuff:
@Dreaming

I wouldn't condemn people with values different from yours

I would NEVER sleep with a virgin/late bloomer

If there's no buyer there's a 99.9% probability that something's wrong with the product, id rather not give it a chance.


That's a false assumption to believe the only reason someone is a virgin/late bloomer is because no one would get that close to them, and a ridiculous one given how plenty of men will go for any crack they can find and how easy it often is for a man to pay for sex if he were really that determined to lose his virginity.

And besides, maybe there's something to be said about being chosen by someone so discriminating.

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posted February 11, 2013 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nikisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 11, 2013 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think there are so many Scorpio Pluto people who have waited longer than usual. It's the "I am serious cat. Sex is serious situation" generation!

If you're wondering about people with sexual problems/issues whether emotional or physical, I'd go with Mars in either Scorpio, Pisces or Capricorn.... or.....Mars in harsh aspect to Pluto,Neptune, Uranus or Saturn.

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posted February 11, 2013 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On top of everything else said - astrologically-, I`d suppose there might be some constellation tied to the 5th or 8th house, probably through Saturn, Neptune or in some instances Pluto, and possibly also including the 2nd and 11th house ruler. But it depends for which reasons one chooses to stay virginal. Not in all cases it has to do with a lack of confidence, feelings of insecurity and being not loveable enough.
Sometimes it is a very conscious decision.


Anyway example:

Venus, as ruler of 5th house, in Capricorn squaring Pluto, as ruler of 11th and 12th house

Mars conjunct Neptune on ASC

Saturn, as ruler of 2nd house, being retrograde and in Cancer in 8th house (with the 8th house ruler also being in 2nd house)


EDIT:
of course the same constellation could have also led to overcompensation

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posted February 11, 2013 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Astra, PixieJane

Lets look at it differently: if the person doesn't want/need romantic love and relationships and doesn't have them then fine, I sure can respect that.

Just like with money, I wouldn't condemn a person with modest demands for making too little money.

BUT I think that if one needs something one should work towards it and use ones head to come by it. Otherwise what's in the way?

A virgin guy in his late 20s ??? Naah thank you

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posted February 11, 2013 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I fall into this bunch.

And no Im not hideous, a geek, or a nun.

Im extremely picky though.
I would prefer a virgin actually.

Not that virginity is about religion etc. To me its means the person has no baggage. I like the idea that he would not have been banging other chicks, no stds etc.

Also with me telling men that Im not gonna sleep around helps me filter guys quickly and save time.

The ones that cant live without jumping into bed, probably cant control themselves and that to me is extremely unattractive.
I would suspect that those men would be the ones that fall to urges since they never really had enough self discipline to begin with. To me that isnt stable marriage material.

I like the idea of being someones first and sharing something intimate with my husband. The first time might be awkward and not as beautiful as people make it but to me it is special. I mean a guy, who shares my mentality and decides he would rather wait for the right girl rather than poke every girl on the street, would be really strong mentally, someone, who can delay immediate gratification for his values or priorities, someone, who to me has his life in order.

Also I dont like that ick factor of one night stands. Having to be so close to someone I barely know. His breath. His nail dirt. Did he clean down there? How does he eat? Is he hygenic or just one who sprays on tons of cologne? Is he a nut, psycho, serial killer? Did he just kill someone before getting here to have a one nighter with me? Does he hurt animals? Does he have a weirdo habit? Are his family memebers lunatics? Does he have an ex gf who might stalk me? What about a wife? Has he raped someone? Is he a pedophile? Does he have HIV? Does he have an STD? Just too many negative things would be running through my mind. There are so many girls killed, raped, drugged etc like this. I think there was a recent one? Elizabeth 'Lizzi' Marriott.

I would be more happy when I felt safe and secure and in the right mans arms.

sun: gemini-cancer
moon: scorpio
asc: scorpio
venus: leo
mars: gemini
jupiter: sag
saturn: libra
uranus: sag
neptune: sag
pluto: libra
true node: gemini
chiron: gemini

Also, I know of one girl that told me I should test out the car before buying. I seriously would not rate sex as the most important thing for me to have an emotional mental, and even physical connection.
And say he was a perfect man who didnt know what he was doing? Why in the world would I dump an otherwise perfect man for a sex addict?

Also, it isnt damn rocket science. Even someone with a low IQ person figures it out. And think about it. Biological needs such as urinating, defecating, crying, eating, breathing are not taught. I have heard people actually brag about how much experience they have or needed.

*Hmmm well you need lots of experience to be any good at it.*

If you need lots of experience to have/ learn sex then there has to be something wrong with you upstairs. Seriously. How does one need so much experience to figure out a basic biological experience? You have to be a modern day dodo bird not to get it right. So when I hear:

*Oh girl, I have tons of experience.*
*Damn I know how to run this motor.*
*I have spent year perfecting this...* *Years of experience all packed down there. It runs on automatic.*

I have to laugh in that persons face for what they just un wittingly admitted to me.

Anyway....It is what it is. I am not preaching my point just stating my opinion. I know it isnt popular in this country but in other countries it is. : /


i think people with your views meet people with your views eventually and stay together forever coz well okay idk y lol but they do. my cousin uttered something about companionship but he was just speaking jibberish to me. if i want that i have a really cute dog that is the funniest. but seriously i've seen it quite a few times with the older gen and said cousin. he was also a cancer. it's just that i've been there. i am v v conservative. or was lol! sometimes it just doesn't work out to your favor. i thought my first was going to be forever lol! turned out to be a year and a half or so.

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posted February 11, 2013 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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A virgin guy in his late 20s ??? Naah thank you

depends... if he is trying and doesn't get any i'd think something is wrong with him too.

some don't have the luxury to date. responsibilities. hard life. who knows i dun wanna imagine the other circumstances but some are understandable...

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posted February 11, 2013 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people stay virgins due to religious convictions like Tim Tebow(sp) I am not a sports fan

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