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posted August 14, 2013 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Jessica:

I was wondering, can Jyotish predict when a person will relocate to another city, country or continent?

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posted August 14, 2013 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ms Prism,

"I have Saturn retrograde and I reflect and stress and my mind is constantly turning ideas over and over again."
Yes, I am the same. Sometimes feel like literally chewing on these things.


"Like wanting to achieve something and feeling like I'm never getting there until BAM I'm there and I look back and say "Wow, I was giving it my all.""
Yes, I can relate to that. I mean I know that I am working, but usually it is just plodding along, doing what needs to be done, and pretty much pushing away the discomfort of stress (because I have no time for it, until the project is finished), and then when the final line is reached it is almost like: Wow! How did I get here? And what now?

It happens at the end of each term, it takes time to get into the work-mode, but then when I am in there, I am just working and working, and when it is done (and Inever really believe that it will ever end), it is like I am falling in a bit of a black hole, as I have put such a singular focus on the project/ work, that without it, I am getting a little purposeless for a while.

"The 8th House can give you a brilliant mind predisposed to the occult if Saturn is strong there in Gemini."
I don´t think saturn is strong in Gemini. Isn`t it it peregrine there?
Well at least it is not in fall. lol

But it definitely orients me to the Mercurial-business, yes.


"Does this hinder or help your career?"
Hmm, I am not so keen on a big career to be honest. But in terms of my profession I think it helped. It gave me a lot of stubbornness to stick to learning.

" I think you know my thoughts on combustion in western astrology"
I am not sure what your thoughts are, but I know that mine are a bit different from most astrologers.

While I am always reading that the combust planet practically burns to ashes and disappears, I haven´t experienced it like this.
Actually I have seen the opposite happen (in my chart and others), it is like the planet becomes totally loaded with the energy of the sun, it becomes very dominant in a person`s personality; but at the same time there is such a strong focus on it, that it might push away other planets or energies.

In my case that means that Mercury is extremely strong in the way I am dealing with the world, how I perceive and process things. It is all channelled through my mind.
If you forced me to stop analysing and thinking, I think I might stop existing.

"I'm thinking that it's beneficial because I think everyone can agree that you have a brilliant mind."
Thank you. I don´t think it is that brilliant though. I just like to study and learn and research, and after a time, if you have gathered enough informations/ tidbits, patterns start to emerge and THAT is the beauty of it, if it all becomes synthesized.

Well in Vedic I have Moon in 3rd house, (though being in Capricorn it is debilitated I think).


"Also, the 8th House relates to astrology and other esoteric teachings. It can't be a coincidence that your Saturn is ruled by your combust Mercury."
Yes, I noticed that as well.
I think maybe here the mental capacities of gathering informations of Mercury (though often in a big flighty way) combines with the Saturn in 8th, digging deep and long, really wanting to get to the bottom of things, even if it takes years to get thre.

"Saturn is ruling that 3rd House for you too which is the house of your ambitions. Your ambitions would naturally gravitate toward 8th House matters then?"
Yes, I think so.


" http://www.9graha.com/eng/articles/houses.htm

http://www.9graha.com/eng/articles/9planets.htm
Thank you for these links. They are interesting.

I read that the 3rd house is related to artists, musicians, performers, dancers, etc.
And this make quite some sense with my Moon being there, right?

"Jyotish is fascinating!"
It is.

however I do not really identify with the video on Venus in 2nd house,w hich I have.
I am neither a princess nor materialistic like that. And while I enjoy luxury (yes I admit I do), it is not necessary and not a condition for me to fall in love with someone.

But then again, Sun and Mercury are sitting in the same house, and Saturn is aspecting it from 8th house, so maybe that modifies it.


In my Navamsa Venus is in Cancer in 9th house.

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posted August 14, 2013 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MsPrism:
@Jessica:

I was wondering, can Jyotish predict when a person will relocate to another city, country or continent?


Another city am not sure. Another country or another continent - yes.

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posted August 14, 2013 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Another city am not sure. Another country or another continent - yes.

Is it easy to explain it because I am thinking about a move but I'm not quite sure if it will happen or not?

I'm thinking of moving to another continent, sorry for not putting that first ha!

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Another city am not sure. Another country or another continent - yes.

how?

that guy yesenyes predicted i'd do better abroad.

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posted August 14, 2013 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MsPrism: I'm thinking of moving to another continent, sorry for not putting that first ha!

I might move to another country as well! Thanks ahead of time, Jessica!!!

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posted August 14, 2013 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just learned in a video that most probably my mother is going to introduce me to my husband.

Well, okay only one tidbit of Jupiter in 4th house.

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posted August 14, 2013 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Is it easy to explain it because I am thinking about a move but I'm not quite sure if it will happen or not?

No not really. It would require analysis of your transits, your 9th house rulers and co-rulers, nakshatra signs, ashtakavarga table,the navamsa and moon rasi and sun charts and the 16 varga charts,well at least the ones that may be relevant. But yes they will be able to predict when and HOW you will move.

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posted August 14, 2013 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lulz:
how?

that guy yesenyes predicted i'd do better abroad.


That's not a prediction. That's an analysis of your chart after which he came to that conclusion.

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bazi i'm not due to move until my 40's weird. retirement?

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quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
That's not a prediction. That's an analysis of your chart after which he came to that conclusion.

i see...

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posted August 14, 2013 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To note:

1. Rashi or the Lagna chart as it is of 30º to study all aspects of life.
2. Hora or one-half of a sign -15º is the varga to study wealth.
3. Drekkana or one-third of a sign – 10º is the varga to study siblings.
4. Chaturthamsha or one-fourth of a sign – 7º30′ is the varga to study destiny and house.
5. Saptamsha or one-seventh of a sign – is the varga to study progeny.
6. Navamsha or one-ninth of a sign – 3º20′ is the varga for spouse and many other things.
7. Dashamsha or one-tenth of a sign – 3º- is the varga to study ones profession.
8. Dwadashamsha or one-twelfth of a sign -2º30′- is the varga to study parents.
9. Shodashamsha or one-sixteenth of a sign -1º52’30″- is the varga to study conveyance.
10. Vimshamsha or one-twentieth of a sign -1º30′- is the varga to study spiritual progress.
11. Chaturvimshamsha or one-twenty fourth of a sign -1º15′- is to study knowledge.
12. Saptavimshamsha or one-twenty seventh of a sign -1º6’40″- is to study the strength.
13. Trimshamsha or one-thirtieth of a sign – 1º00′- is misfortunes and nature.
14. Khavedamsha or one-fortieth of a sign – 0º45′ is for auspicious & inauspicious effects.
15. Akshavedamsha or one-forty fifth of a sign 0º40′ is for all areas of life.
16.Shashtyamsha or one-sixtieth of a sign 0º30′ is for all general effects.

Shodas Vargas have been classified in the following four groups:

a) Shadvarga: Rashi Chart (D-1), Hora Chart (D-2), Dreshkona Chart (D-3), Navamsha Chart (D-9), Dwadashamsha Chart (D-12) and Trishamsha Chart (D-30).

Shadvarga is important because 15 points out of 20 points of Vimsopaka Bala fall in this classification. If a planet is in 2,3,4,5 or 6 good vargas (exaltation, moolatrikona, own, friendly signs, or a sign that is owned by a planet ruling an angle (1,4,7,10) from the arudha, then it is called kimshuka, vyanjana, chaamara, chatra, kundala.

b) Saptavarga: Shadvarga and Saptamamsha Chart (D-7). If a planet is in good vargas in all seven, it is called Mukuta.

Role and Significance of Varga Charts

1. Rashi Chart {30 degree}: D-1 is the basic chart from where horoscopic study of destiny begins. This chart indicates physical body and its related activities. The other divisional charts are sub-divisions of this chart.

2. Hora chart {15degree}: D-2 chart deals with wealth, sustenance, money matters. This chart helps in understanding the wealth position and financial matters of a native. Male planets in the Sun's Hora are taken as beneficial while female planets are effective in the Moon's Hora. If maximum planets are in the Sun's Hora it is said that the native earns money as a result of hard work but the quantum of wealth may be very good. If Moons Hora predominates, the earning will be relatively easy. However, this is subject to the Dhan yoga formed in the horoscope.

3. Dreshkanna {10degree}: D-3 chart indicates all about Co-born ( brother, sister). This chart is important for longevity analysis. Planets falling in 22nd Dreshkona, Sarpa Dreshkona and Phasha Dreshkona are not considered good for the native and his health.
4. Chathurthamsa or Turyeeamsa {7degree 30’}: D-4 chart indicates residence, fortune, overall happiness, fixed assets, property both in the form of property and worldly attachments

5. Saptamsa {4degree 17’ 8”.57}: D-7 chart indicates procreative power. Progeny related matters are seen from this chart.

6. Navamsa or Dharmamsa {3degree20’}: D-9 chart is most important in predictive Astrology. It complementary chart to the birth chart wherein planetary strength is assessed. An exalted planet in the birth chart (if it debilitates in the Navamsha) may not give very good results or its effects can get diluted. However, a planet getting empowered in D-9 by getting vargottama or by getting exalted will give good results. This chart indicates all about marriage, spouse, partners and skills of the native.

The lord of the 64th Navamsha from the Moon becomes highly important for the calculation of Longevity and the Maraka dasa.

7. Dasamsa or Swargamsa {3 degree}: D-10 chart indicates “Mahat Phalam” i.e. the result which indicates the standing and status of the native in society on account of the interaction of fate and action. Normally this chart is consulted for getting clear idea about Career, Profession, Occupation, Work etc. The placement and avashtha of the tenth lord of the birth chart is important here. Apart from that the rashi rising in the 10th house of this divisional chart and the influence on the 10th house has also to be considered, to judge the profession and any professional growth or fall of the native.

8. Dwadasamsa or Suryamsa {2degree30’}: D-12 chart shows about Parents, their well-being, health, longevity. In this chart Sun represents father and Moon represents mother. Influence on the 4th, 9th and 10th also should be taken into account. The Lord of the 88th Dwadashamsha is important in longevity analysis. This chart also is said to reveal whether a person inherits a disease from his parents.

9. Shodasamsa or Kalamsa {1degree52’30”}: D-16 chart indicates about Vehicles, Conveyance, Luxuries, Happiness, Accident from Vehiclele, Inner strength of the character. In this chart, Venus, 4H and 4L are to been. Malefic influence on these factors shows worry from Vehicles etc.

10. Vimsamsa {1degree30’}: D-20 chart tells about Spiritualism and progress in this field, worship of deity, leaning towards a particular sect.

11. Chaturvimamsa or Siddhamsa – {1degree15’}: D-24 chart is seen for gaining idea of Education, Learning, success in competition etc.

12. Bhamsa or Nakshatramsa or Saptavisamsa {1degree6’40”}: D-27 chart indicates general physical and inner strength and weakness of native.

13. Trimsamsa {1degree}: D-30 chart is consulted to ascertain the difficulties, evils and miseries coming through mishappenings and diseases for a particular native. This chart indicates inclination of natural traits based on Trigunas – Swatic, Rajas and Tamas.

14. Chatvarimsamsa or Khavedamsa or Swavedamsa {45’}: D-40 chart generally indicates the auspicious and inauspicious effects of horoscope.

15. Akashvedamsa {40’}: D-45 chart shows the character of the native. Paternal legacy is also seen from this chart.

16. Shastiamsha {30’}: D-60 chart shows Past Karma, repayment of deeds of the past lives. D-1 and D-60 are complementary to each other. D-1 chart indicate when and D-60 tells why events happen in the life of the native. Maharishi Parashara has given lots of importance to this chart .

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posted August 14, 2013 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Harmonics!

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posted August 14, 2013 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 14, 2013 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 14, 2013 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So let me train to see aspects.

Every planet aspects the 1st and 7th house from itself.
Additionally
Mars aspects the 4th and 8th house
Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th house
Saturn aspects the 3rd and 10th house


So in my lagna chart:

Sun in Sagittarius aspects the 2nd (containing Mercury and Venus) and the 8th (containing Saturn in Gemini)

Moon in Capricorn aspects the 3rd and 9th, but no other planets

Mercury aspects the 2nd (Sun and Venus) and the 8th (Saturn)

Venus aspects the 2nd (Sun and MErcury) and the 8th (with Saturn)

Mars in Scorpio aspects the 1st (with Rahu) and the 7th (with Ketu),
Mars also aspects the 4th (with Jupiter in Aquarius) and the 8th (with Saturn in gemini)

Jupiter in Aquarius in 4th aspects the 8th (with Saturn) and the 12th (no planets)

Saturn in Gemini in 8th aspects the 2nd (with Sun, mercury, Venus), the 10th (no planets) and the 5th (no planets)

In the Navamsa chart:

Sun in Aries in 6th house aspects the 6th house (with Mercury) and the 12th house (with Mars in Libra) - Sun is exalted here, Mars debilitated


Moon in Leo in 10th house aspects the 10th and 4th house but no planets

Venus in Cancer in 9th house aspects the 9th and 3rd house (but no planets)

Mars in Libra in 12th house (how interestingly that this is such a debilitated Mars there, while in the Rashi it was in domicile in Scorpio in the 1st house),
aspects the 6th house (with Sun and Mercury).
Mars also aspects the 3rd house (no planets) and the 7th house (with Saturn and Ketu - ouch).

Jupiter in Pisces in 5th house aspects the empty 11th house, and also the 9th house (with Venus in Cancer) and the 1st house (with Rahu in Scorpio)

Saturn in Taurus in 7th house aspects Ketu (in 7th house) and Rahu (in 1st house),
Saturn also aspects the 9th house (and Venus in Cancer), and the empty 11th house


Is the counting correct so far?

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posted August 14, 2013 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why was lulz unregistered? -_-

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posted August 14, 2013 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Why was lulz unregistered? -_-

Check the recently closed SPITR thread.

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posted August 14, 2013 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BS!!

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posted August 14, 2013 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anony, I replied to your email btw haha

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posted August 14, 2013 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prayer circle for lulz. Maybe I'll email him later and see what he's going to do.

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posted August 14, 2013 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh so he managed to get unregistered again? :sighs:

I actually saw the thread where it happened, but only after it was closed.


Anyway, anyone got something to say about Vedic?
For example, if we want to check compatibility and attraction in a vedic chart and not only do the Kundli matching, how would we go about?


Jessica? Kero?

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posted August 14, 2013 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
So let me train to see aspects.

Every planet aspects the 1st and 7th house from itself.
Additionally
Mars aspects the 4th and 8th house
Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th house
Saturn aspects the 3rd and 10th house

Is the counting correct so far?


This is very informative! Kero and/or Jess, can either of you thumbs up what Ceri's posted?

Thank you Ceri!

This site explains the aspects and how they are used in Jyotish very simply!
http://petephoenix.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/planetary-aspects-in-vedic-astrology-how-they-work/

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posted August 14, 2013 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
No not really. It would require analysis of your transits, your 9th house rulers and co-rulers, nakshatra signs, ashtakavarga table,the navamsa and moon rasi and sun charts and the 16 varga charts,well at least the ones that may be relevant. But yes they will be able to predict when and HOW you will move.

Wow, yeah that does sound complicated.

Thank you so much for your help, Jess. You're both appreciated and respected here.

@Everyone:

I found some info on Lord of House combustions:
http://astrobix.com/articles/Impact-of-Combust-Lord-of-House-of-a-Horoscope.aspx

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When a planet is combust in a kundli or in transit then it impacts the life of the native. In this article we will discuss the result of a combust lord of a house in the kundli-Birth Chart.

Combust lord of 1st house

If the 1st house of a kundli -Birth Chart has a combust lord of the Ascendant then the native may have a life of a prisoner. He or she may have to face fear, disease and tension very often and this may result in lowered lifestyle, money crisis and obstacles in the way of success.

Combust lord of 2nd house

If the lord of the 2nd house is combust then the native may may behave improperly. She may even do some inconceivable acts. This combination can also cause eye pain, stammering and give a squandering nature. She may have a problematic life.

Combust lord of 3rd house

If the lord of the 3rd house of a kundali is combust then this is harmful for the native’s brothers. He or she might get a bad advisor and enemy in guise. She may feel mental stress and her self-esteem may be at a strike.

Combust lord of 4th house

Combust lord of the 4th house means the native’s mother may be in pain. The native’s land asset or pet may be in danger and he or she may be at risk from water and vehicle. Native’s personal happiness is hampered in this situation.

Combust lord of 5th house

Combust lord in this house may cause problems for children, failure of plans, problems in legs and unnecessary loss of money.

Combust lord of 6th house

If a native’s kundli has combust lord in 6th house then she or he may face defeat, conspiracy and may have to work under others in unfavourable conditions. He may be hurt, afflicted by theft and may not be able to take intelligent decisions.

Combust lord of 7th house

Combust lord in this house indicate separation from life partner. He may get in trouble from the opposite sex and develop illegitimate relationships. He might suffer from hidden diseases.

Combust lord of 8th house

Weakness, failure, despair, hunger, disease and death are created by combust lord in the 8th house of a native’s kundali Janam Patrika.

Combust lord of 9th house

Ill fate, poverty and foolish behavior are caused by combust lord in this house. The natives who have this combination in their kundli may be cursed by elder people and teachers.

Combust lord of 10th house

If the lord of the 10th house of a kundali is combust then a native may fail at work, get demotion at the job, and may lead a difficult life where unpleasant incidents may happen very frequently.

Combust lord of 11th house

Combust lord in this house means danger for elder brother of the native, bad news, loss of wealth, ear related diseases and separation from friends.

Combust lord of 12th house

A native if has this situation in kundali may suffer various types of diseases,and may face a situation in which they are either imprisoned or in threat of imprisonment.


My 1st and 10th House Lord is combust, Jupiter.

I think it's a little offset by the fact that the dispositor of the sign my Jupiter sits (Aries - Mars), is in it's exaltation in Capricorn.

Synchronicity, I was actually coming up to a situation in life where I'll have to choose to gain a disease or not. Sounds weird but just thought I'd mention the connection.

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^Those are some scary descriptions, my 9th house &12th house lord Mercury and 4th house & 5th house lord Saturn are combust.

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