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posted August 12, 2013 02:03 PM
I think AL has more of impact, it controls our material success in life. Draconic is more soul based. For instant a sleazy politician can be a martyr for the people if he has a well placed AL. Same thing with movie stars, there are so many talented and attractive people in the world but a strong AL can give fame and that it factor. IP: Logged |
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posted August 12, 2013 02:03 PM
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anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5447 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 12, 2013 02:09 PM
How to know whether our AL is strong or not?IP: Logged |
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posted August 12, 2013 02:15 PM
Depends what your idea of success is.If you want to be a fearless person that commands respect. You need to have malefic planets in the 3rd or 6th house from the Arudah lagna. since those are drekanna houses (malefic houses) These people are seen and ambitious and hungry for power. A martyr character needs benefic planets like moon and venus in in the 3rd/6th house One who is financially successful would have jupiter/venus in the 11th from AL. However if planets like saturn/mars/sun/rahu are aspecting the AL will taint the image. One might be misrepresent in an unfortunate light. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20768 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 12, 2013 02:33 PM
kero,that is interesting. Thanks. So let`s see. "f you want to be a fearless person that commands respect. You need to have malefic planets in the 3rd or 6th house from the Arudah lagna. " Since Leo is my Arudha lagna, that would be Libra and Capricorn. Nothin in Libra, Moon in Capricorn, but that one is not malefic I think. "A martyr character needs benefic planets like moon and venus in in the 3rd/6th house" Hmm Moon in 6th from Arudha lagna.
Does it matter it is in Capircorn? "One who is financially successful would have jupiter/venus in the 11th from AL." Neither is in Gemini, so I guess no success for me.
"However if planets like saturn/mars/sun/rahu are aspecting the AL will taint the image. One might be misrepresent in an unfortunate light." Jupiter is in Aquarius, therforea specting Leo I think. Is that favourable because ther eis an aspect, or unfavourable because it is an opposition? Saturn is in gemini, Mars and Rahu in Scorpio, Sun in Sagittarius, not sure if they are aspecting. But if Venus and Jupiter in 11th from AL are good for success, Saturn in 11th might prove troublesome, right? IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 12, 2013 02:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Is Arudha lagna similar to our Western Draconic ascendant?
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 5151 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 12, 2013 02:39 PM
Anyone who is born under the nakshatra punarvarsu is a fearless person that commands respect  IP: Logged |
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posted August 12, 2013 02:43 PM
Ceri if saturn is in the 11th from al is good because saturn rules the 11th house but it may delay financial successful until later in life.Yeah I don't AL is the final word on financial successful. It's more like the icing on top of the cake. there are so many other factors in the horoscope. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5447 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 12, 2013 02:48 PM
@Jess Does the person need to have lagna, moon or sun in that Nakshatra or do other planets also count?IP: Logged |
Lunae Knowflake Posts: 2251 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 12, 2013 02:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: Anyone who is born under the nakshatra punarvarsu is a fearless person that commands respect 
how about purvabhadra?  IP: Logged |
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posted August 12, 2013 02:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: Anyone who is born under the nakshatra punarvarsu is a fearless person that commands respect 
WAIT do you have a punavarsu nakshatra? Im in love with a one!! I like that nakshatra. IP: Logged |
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posted August 12, 2013 02:57 PM
Those born under Rohini are beautiful and desirable. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20768 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 12, 2013 04:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: Ceri if saturn is in the 11th from al is good because saturn rules the 11th house but it may delay financial successful until later in life.Yeah I don't AL is the final word on financial successful. It's more like the icing on top of the cake. there are so many other factors in the horoscope.
Yes, of course about the other factorns in the horoscope, and honestly, financial success is not my top priority (I do like having enough money to live comfortably though). But interesting tidbit about SAturn, yes of course it is the natural ruler of 11th (at least traditionally, and that is what is used with vedic). Hm I have Venus in 2nd - since Venus naturally rules 2nd house, is that fortunate?=
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20768 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 12, 2013 04:32 PM
My Moon is 23.36 Capricorn in sidereal (Hindu-Lahiri)From 23.20 Capricron the nakshatra is DHANISHTA If using the Fagan-Bradley sidereal zodiac, my Moon is 22.43 Capricorn and the nakshatra would be SHRAVANA
I have always considered DHANISHTA, but looking up both meanings:
SHRAVANA This is the star of listening, also called the "Star of Learning". They are always questing for knowledge, and information. They can be very intellectual. Wisdom and the spoken word are very important here. They make great teachers, or perpetual students. Counseling is a gift for they have the ability to truly listen. Their sense of hearing can be very acute and sensitive. They are very traditional and want to uncover knowledge of the past. Listening and participating in gossip are common, even though they are extremely sensitive and hurt as a result. Their restless nature causes them to travel extensively, usually in a pursuit of knowledge. There seems to be trouble and disappointments early in life, and some disabilities. With age they slowly regain their sense of self-confidence. They can walk with a limp or an unusual gate. -----
that quest for knowledge and learning is just so me. lol DHANISHTA
The "Star of Symphony", there is considerable material wealth, ownership of property and real estate with this nakshatra. As to the symbols of musical instruments, some do possess musical ability. The "Star of Symphony", there is considerable material wealth, ownership of property and real estate with this nakshatra. As to the symbols of musical instruments, some do possess musical ability and love dancing, for they are able to keep a beat. With this notion they are great at timing, this can refer to having a knack for being at the right place at the right time. There seems to be emptiness from within, for the musical instruments, a drum and flute are hollow. They are constantly trying to fill this void, and this may be the cause of their problems in relationships and marital discord. Marriage may be delayed or denied. There is a tendency to live up to the expectations of others. They can be materialistic, and gain fame and recognition. They must be careful not to be too self absorbed, greedy, and narcissistic. They love the excitement of travel. ----------- Even though that is less than flattering, there is something to it I fear. Well not the materialism though.
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posted August 12, 2013 04:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yes, of course about the other factorns in the horoscope, and honestly, financial success is not my top priority (I do like having enough money to live comfortably though). But interesting tidbit about SAturn, yes of course it is the natural ruler of 11th (at least traditionally, and that is what is used with vedic). Hm I have Venus in 2nd - since Venus naturally rules 2nd house, is that fortunate?=
Yeah it gives a beautiful voice and attractive facial features too. I've heard venus in the 2nd house women are like princesses. You'll be good with your finances unless mars or rahu is aspecting it. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20768 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 12, 2013 04:44 PM
I was reading up on the site:"For example, the planet that rules the 7th house (indicating a person’s spouse), will reveal detailed information about the spouse by the description of that nakshatra" Now the ruler of my 7th house, Venus, is in the Nakshatra of MULA, which is funnily (coincidence or not) the Nakshatra of my crush`s Moon (and Sun and MC). LOL Looking from his perspective, his 7th house ruler is Mercury, and is in the ANURADA Nakshatra, which is the Nakshatra of my Lagna (ASC) and Mars and Rahu (if Rahu is NN).
As a matter of fact his 7th house ruler is conjunct my Lagna and ruler of 1st house. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20768 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 12, 2013 04:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: Yeah it gives a beautiful voice and attractive facial features too. I've heard venus in the 2nd house women are like princesses. You'll be good with your finances unless mars or rahu is aspecting it.
that sounds nice. I am not princess-like though, but I remember that as a kid I loved looking at all the fairy tale princesses in their dresses. And now in my progressed age of 38, that is one of my top priority goals. Losing really much weight, so I can finally wear a ballgown, and look like a bloody princess on New YEar in London.  How do I know Mars or Rahu are aspecting it? I know that the aspects are different in Vedic, but except for conj. and opp. I never know what aspects what (I think Jupiter makes trine aspects, but the others not?) Anyway Venus is in Sagittariu, Mars and Rahu are in Scorpio (since they are in the 12th house of Venus, that probably is not a good thing). This is getting really fascinating. lol
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somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 12, 2013 05:01 PM
quote: Kerosene: You need to have malefic planets in the 3rd or 6th house from the Arudah lagna. [...] One who is financially successful would have jupiter/venus in the 11th from AL.
I have both of these - Saturn in 3rd from AL and both Venus and Jupiter in 11th from AL!  Hey Kerosene do you remember my nakshatra? I forget it hahahaha, I should go find it again... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 20768 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 12, 2013 05:07 PM
you can look it up here: http://www.galacticcenter.org/wrapper/90.html IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted August 12, 2013 05:08 PM
Nvm I found it my nakshatra is Uttara Ashadha...IP: Logged |
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posted August 12, 2013 05:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: that sounds nice. I am not princess-like though, but I remember that as a kid I loved looking at all the fairy tale princesses in their dresses. And now in my progressed age of 38, that is one of my top priority goals. Losing really much weight, so I can finally wear a ballgown, and look like a bloody princess on New YEar in London.  How do I know Mars or Rahu are aspecting it? I know that the aspects are different in Vedic, but except for conj. and opp. I never know what aspects what (I think Jupiter makes trine aspects, but the others not?) Anyway Venus is in Sagittariu, Mars and Rahu are in Scorpio (since they are in the 12th house of Venus, that probably is not a good thing). This is getting really fascinating. lol
They use the concept of signs that square and trine too but it's not as specific.
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posted August 12, 2013 05:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: They use the concept of signs that square and trine too but it's not as specific.
so the conjunction and opposition would be the main aspectrs? And are they still using whole sign aspects or is the concept of orb considered? IP: Logged |
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posted August 12, 2013 05:35 PM
quote: Rohini Nakshatra is about beauty, wealth and luxury. Since this nakshatra is ruled by the Moon. It represents emotions, however, such emotions are not emotional, but actually emotions of happiness and living in bliss. These folks like to be a part of elite, rich and wealthy group and they want to associate with people who can increase their status and wealth. This is also a very creative nakshatra as it represents singers, actors and dancers. However, one thing to know about Rohini is that they get angry pretty quickly and when they do, they can kill someone. The rule moon, which represents the mother, shows great wealth and fame through the mother and a great relationship with the mother. These people cut through things and move forward, this make them very bold and symbolized by chariot. This nakshartra is about creation, whether creating art, kids, or a new invention. They are very balanced and calm in the mind. They are quite beautiful, especially females in this nakshtra. But, one of their qualities is to work less and make more. They do not want to work 9-5 like rest of the world, because they know in the time they would waste on tedious work, they can enjoy life, enjoy luxury or simply enjoy any kind of art But, this doesn't mean they are lazy, they actually are the most hard working people who know the value of money and security. This is why they make some of the best businessmen, because they are very smooth and calm in their approach, unless of course you don't go by what they are telling you then they will challenge you. Hardly anyone can stop them at achieving their goals, they will go through any hurdles and reach their destination, unless Moon is in a planetary war.
Moon/3 planets + asc in rohini lmfao My career involves me creating applications, I went to an art school so I'm surrounded by artists. Interesting my mother is an artist so I grew up around art and beauty. Yes I can get very angry and I am very hard working. I like this astrologer and I would post your guys naskhatra info but he never got to them  Hmm he did do jess's nakshtra
quote: Purnavasu nakshatra is about returning to the source. What I mean by this is that like lord Ram, who fought great evils, and struggled for 14 years, finally returned back to his source of kingliness. This nakshatra is about going through struggles in life and finally after enough struggle one becomes a king. This shows one gaining lot of wisdom through their experiences and later teaching others about what they have gone through and the mistake they have made in their life. They make some of the great counselor and teachers or university professors. Due to the influence of Jupiter here, there is a great care and passion for advising and teaching others. The symbol of bow & arrow also represent the weapon of the divine, because in Indian mythology, lord Vishnu took the body of Ravan on earth just so he could be killed by the divine arrow of lord Ram. People think Ram is a God, or ditty, but actually Ram was an avatar who was born in the flesh body. He was one of the angles of God but not God himself, because there is only one God, that is Vishnu, who has sub bodies like Shiva, Bhrama, Ram, Krishina etc.. but the root is only one. This nakshatra shows that even the punishment from such people may actually be a blessings because there would be a great lesson to be learned. I.e. if a teacher punishes the student at school, that particular punishment would be probably will the one that student remembers for rest of his or her life and would actually thank the teacher for doing what they did. There is also great interest in reading and writing. Both Jupiter and Mercury the lord of Gemini are the karaka of study, writing, knowledge and wisdom. Such people can make great writers of divine, spiritual and religious books.
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posted August 12, 2013 05:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: so the conjunction and opposition would be the main aspectrs? And are they still using whole sign aspects or is the concept of orb considered?
exactly & traditionally whole sign aspects do not use orbs. Modern vedic astrologers do use orbs but I don't really really study that.
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posted August 12, 2013 06:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: exactly & traditionally whole sign aspects do not use orbs. Modern vedic astrologers do use orbs but I don't really really study that.
Kero, sorry for the many questions, but I am still not finished with them.  Is it the same in the comparision of two charts for relationships? I mean I know about the compatibility check with the Moons, but I also read something about comparing two charts to each other. So in this case would a planet in Cancer aspect a planet in Cancer or Capricorn irrespective of degree? IP: Logged | |