posted November 11, 2016 09:20 PM            

The only reason we need to keep hurting each other is karma (ok that comprises basically everything). It's possible to work karma off, by being of genuine service. The universal love nature feeds on pain, and transmutes it into life. Like predators in nature.

It's perplexing... I'm honestly perplexed by it. But I'm willing to suffer for everybody's well being, and for everybody to suffer their karma if they must. Suffering isthe name of the game right now...

In alchemy we have the Nigredo... The burning up of the ego, a long and torturous shadow process. Seems like we're collectively in the Nigredo stage in a pretty big way. But not everybody.

It's all perception... But there's also cold hard reality and although I don't claim to know everything I do think that Jewel was right...

"In the end, only kindness matters."

posted November 11, 2016 09:22 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
well its not that hard to get food out of garbages or sleep outside

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I used to do that for years before I had my child. I rode freight trains and ate garbage exclusively.

It's not that hard? Have you done it?

posted November 11, 2016 09:27 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
no it is healing to express wants

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Depends what you want, then, doesn't it?

I flip flop on this one. I understand that expressing wants is natural... like a small child wants food. But when two people want different things, it is disastrous and divisive.

So in this sense, it is not healing to have desire and aversion. It is what keeps us on the wheel of samsara. It is totally predicated on the ongoing individuality, personal importance and the divided consciousness.

It's difficult to understand. Wants are very different from needs and the ability to distinguish is crucial... also selfish desire is ultimately very painful. Selfless desire is a different thing.

posted November 11, 2016 09:32 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
wait until the time comes. you are worrying about people not having enough money but that times hasnt come

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I'm not going to wait, I'm going to plant food and learn from the earth how to survive, through respect and humility and love and indigenous teachings, etc. I'm going to look after my friends in practical ways. I bring my friends who already don't have enough money soup and help guide them through the healthcare system. That's what I am doing.

If you think everybody has enough money right now... look at the other nations that America has sucked dry. Look at the genocide of the indigenous people. Look at the starving and wounded, the bombed and robbed in the Middle East.

Then tell me that time has not come!

It hasn't come for Americans, yet, because it isn't time, by their clock, yet.

Just because it's never happened to you does not mean it can't.

Many Americans live in poverty and fear. They are killed by police for less than nothing, for being black. Women are raped and then chastised for calling men out on it.

You want me to wait... wait for what, exactly? Until you personally are starving?

posted November 11, 2016 09:33 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
the more you desire the more you are alive. the less you desire the more you are ready to not exist

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This is true.

Scorpio's rule: you must be willing to be nothing in order to be something.

posted November 11, 2016 09:34 PM            

There is no worse folly than not knowing what is enough.

Know when enough is enough, and be content...

posted November 11, 2016 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
theres been millions of animals having massive die offs all washing on the shore too.

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