posted November 10, 2016 08:20 AM            

Yeah I was just wondering if there were any takes on this win, projections for the upcoming four years. It's not a small deal and so many of us are shocked/ shaken up about it. I have yet to see a single astrological theory about it so would love to see some for anyone interested (if there is anyone).

posted November 10, 2016 08:36 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
It's been talked about forever, I'm ready to just move forward from it.

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Same. I have lots of other things to do.
Plus:

1)I doubt he can do very much in 4 years, theres to much red tape and bureaucracy. You can't take a broom on Friday and expect a clean house on Monday morning.

2) I think he'll say anything... no matter how over the top to keep his constituents happy and convence them hes the one..but not necessarily deliver.

Gemini suns can do that. I know..

The other day I was in the cafe at my other university, (I'm enrolled at two universities at the same time, its a long story).

There were a couple of first years studying for Liner Algebra and having problems.

I should have kept my mouth shut.. but I went over and said is it a "unique solution?" if its not then that should solve your problem 80% of the course is puting the matrix into reduced row echelon form and determining the pivots or the matrix manipulation from Reduce Row Echelon Form.

Then they said to me can you tutor us? and I'm thinking they don't actually trust me do they?

Did I give the "I know what I'm doing look?"... I sorta do.....but not really.

I politely said I don't want set you in the wrong direction or give you the wrong advice.

So thats my concern is whether or not the integrity is there:

a) He wants to gets things done, but realizes its next to imposible once its too late.

b) Lacks the integrity and trick everyone.

3) This whole lets move to Canada thing just makes me smile and laugh. Its pure commical, you can't just get in a van and drive over here.

Even then.... not all the provinces are that nice, I whould never head to Alberta there wanabe Texans.

posted November 10, 2016 11:11 AM            

And yes, that is how a republic, how the election-process works.

posted November 10, 2016 11:19 AM            

and it doesnt matter to me who won. trump has more life to him but thats from me a first house dominant who likes firey things

posted November 10, 2016 11:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, if we are hairsplitting, then its not necessarily the "best" person who won, but the person who had the most votes.

And yes, that is how a republic, how the election-process works.

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posted November 10, 2016 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Blame it on the people who voted for him? There is no blame. There was an election, and he was voted in. That's how a Republic works. The better person won. Hillary is corrupt to the core. Saying you blame the person who won an election on the voters who elected him makes no sense. Of course, the voters voted in the winner. That's not blame--it's how the process works. Democrats need to stop being such sore losers and become a part of the solution, not contributing to the problems.

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Please tell me how the hateful, ignorant, hair-trigger-tempered person who literally has ZERO experience in politics is "better" than the person who has spent her entire life in public service and politics but who is unfortunately maligned because of a combination of misogyny, misinformation, paranoia, and her lack of conventional charisma?

Normally I stay neutral on the issues. This is very serious and fires me up and I don't care who it offends right now.

Trump is a danger to this country, whether it is through his complete ignorance on politics (he flip flops more on most of the important issues, beyond building that stupid wall, at an alarming rate) or through how he has stoked fires of hatred in many (but mind you not all) of his supporters.
It is like handing a tremendous amount of power to a 6 year old. It is wildly irresponsible.

Democrats are not being "sore losers". We have lost elections many times and not reacted at this level. They are genuinely and rightfully concerned with the state of their country. Many gay people are wondering if Trump will try to repeal same sex marriage or introduce conversion therapy. Women fear their rights to their own bodies will be challenged. Do I even have to explain why racial minorities are mad?

Voters who think their privilege in society will protect them are foolish. What do you think this man will do to the economy? The value of the dollar plummeted as soon as he was elected (but may have recovered). He is a threat to working class families of all races. This greedy 1 percenter could recklessly send us into another global recession. Economists spoke of the threat of a financial crisis in the next two years months BEFORE he was even elected. Now, it is only a matter of when.

This is not a typical election. This is something very very different. Hillary has her flaws. But she knows what she is doing. And she gets projected on and dumped on so much that it unfortunately made it possible for this joke to win. If you don't think sexism played a part in this result, (not a complete part but a significant part) you are either deluded or part of the problem. And it is funny how many people who voted for him totally gloss over his flaws (like utterly degrading women) yet cling to their outrageous conspiracy theories about Clinton that are usually founded in nothing. Also, clearly, our democracy is deeply flawed.

Sorry for you guys who don't want to "go there". I probably shouldn't have even opened this thread. When I get started on this whole issue, I come out swinging, haha.

posted November 10, 2016 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I've seen some people blaming it on the Pluto Return for the U.S. Personally, I blame it on the people who voted for him.

I wonder what Uranus and Eris are up to.

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Blamed?? You called me rude the other day and now I am going to say the same to you .

posted November 10, 2016 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
It's been talked about forever, I'm ready to just move forward from it.

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posted November 10, 2016 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Blame it on the people who voted for him? There is no blame. There was an election, and he was voted in. That's how a Republic works. The better person won. Hillary is corrupt to the core. Saying you blame the person who won an election on the voters who elected him makes no sense. Of course, the voters voted in the winner. That's not blame--it's how the process works. Democrats need to stop being such sore losers and become a part of the solution, not contributing to the problems.

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posted November 10, 2016 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by FatedCinderella:
I understand people are mad,the man is a jerk but everyone has the right to vote who they WANT and besides that he got less votes but everybody knew how the system works so why they are just complaining now?If you have someone else to blame is the media.The last fiasco was Hillary taking important states for granted! He gave total attention to them in the end even though people said that was a waste of his time. Well she got an awful surprise and that is for sure a lesson to learn.

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posted November 10, 2016 01:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Cappi112:
Yeah of course anyone who doesn't want to talk about it can just ... not talk about it on a thread .

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posted November 10, 2016 01:19 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I think the media is so corrupt and a huge part of the reason why this country is so freaking divided right now. I agree we should focus on a common enemy and dismantle the corruption happening in the media and put them to their knees. I am so freaking sick of the media.

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posted November 10, 2016 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by FatedCinderella:
I understand people are mad,the man is a jerk but everyone has the right to vote who they WANT and besides that he got less votes but everybody knew how the system works so why they are just complaining now?If you have someone else to blame is the media.The last fiasco was Hillary taking important states for granted! He gave total attention to them in the end even though people said that was a waste of his time. Well she got an awful surprise and that is for sure a lesson to learn.

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It's not that simple. And to dismiss people's genuine concerns and disbelief as "complaining" is off base as well.

My question is what do people actually see in Trump? If he was a giant bigot BUT also an intelligent, well-spoken, efficient and experienced politician, I would be more able to see where his supporters are coming from. Its not just that he is a jerk. Jerks can make excellent politicians. He is also woefully and astoundingly unqualified for this job. He is a raging idiot.

So it baffles me how he received the votes he had and how anyone can defend him, not just based on his personal character but his qualifications. It is the combination of the two. Bush was a moron but also was no stranger to politics. He came from a political family and held previous positions. This is a reality TV star who just took over the White House and did so by fanning flames of xenophobia and nationalism, all in the midst of a character tarnishing scandal. I mean, What?

So I do not see how people can be cavalier about it. The fact that people wanted Trump IS the problem. It highlights that America is not the glorious, accepting "melting pot" that it is advertised to be. It highlights the bigotry and intolerance and patriarchy that is the fabric of this country. That a heterosexual white male can get away with murder in this country. Some supporters of his literally said that he could kill someone and it wouldn't change their minds about him (after HE said that in a speech). And that's not troubling?

And also I would not accredit Hillary's loss to that. Sure maybe it didn't win over as many voters. But she had a lot more working against her, like Comey's foolish decision to go public about the new emails before they realized that "oh there's nothing incriminating in them. Just kidding!"

posted November 10, 2016 01:48 PM            

History is unfolding and it will be an interesting ride.

posted November 10, 2016 01:52 PM            

Mass deception with counterproductive or negative consequences. A lot of the people who put that man in the White House just got hoodwinked. And they aren't going to realize it til later.

There are even people saying that Trump said all of that just to get elected. He was allegedly pro-choice until he announced he was running and was a Democrat for years. If that's true, he is even more of a dangerous sociopath to encourage the ugly side of people just to get what he wants.

I mean, this is just WILD. It is all very surreal. Again, fitting for Neptune in Pisces.

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posted November 10, 2016 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Like it or not, he is the President of the United States and we have to respect the position.

History is unfolding and it will be an interesting ride.

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Sorry. I am not going to honor someone whose entire campaign was based on disrespect and hatred. There is nothing I can do about him being elected. But I refuse to call him my President. Ever.

It certainly is a life changing moment for me. I have never been this riled up about something political. I'll never look at the government the same.