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Topic: Donald Trump Astrology
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 9678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 16, 2017 03:57 PM
Save it, Randall. The people who still support him, are just as delusional as he is.I see the republicans are now gutting the endangered species act. How noble of them. ******** . IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3509 From: infinite backwards point Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 16, 2017 04:05 PM
i just researched to see yeah they are trying to 'relax' the laws and 'hopefully' remove some animals from the lists. i also heard he banned all muslims in his speach "all muslims" i thought it was just the terrorist countries but he said it "all muslims" which i dont agree with. i see a bit of logic by feeling comforting to your people to ban the "nations with the most terror", but to ban all muslims is not what i agree with i think the more land preserved on earth the better which is why they are 'modernizing' the endangered act so they can build businesses. i can see why he'd say 'ban all muslims though' cause until they recognize that it says it in their quaran to "end people who dont practice the same religion" they got to understand that that doesnt look good to anyone lol although yeah i believe it is the landscape which largely influences behaviour. even africans in the dessert area also are muslim i dont think if buddha lived in a dry scaling dessert he would have meditated and said "do onto others as they do onto you" and then shortly faint you need some kind of belief to keep you in line or else you'll fall and faint. fact IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 6395 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 16, 2017 11:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Much of the left has become unhinged.
Yep the left is destroying itself and conservatives are the new counter culture. @Soren. Trump did not ban all Muslims, he banned seven countries known for terrorism and some of which we are at war with. The Obama administration came up with that list actually and Trump used that list strategically so he can then point out Obama came up with it when the biased media would predictably start to attack him unfairly and hypocritically over it. Further is a temporary ban for 90 days designed to give Trump's administration enough time to come up with a screening process to properly vet people coming in from those countries for safety reasons. The top 5 countries with Muslims were actually not banned!! Video: The truth about Trump's Muslim Ban http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JNu4xU9qOEM
Statement Trump Made Regarding Recent Executive Order Concerning Extreme Vetting:
“America is a proud nation of immigrants and we will continue to show compassion to those fleeing oppression, but we will do so while protecting our own citizens and border. America has always been the land of the free and home of the brave. We will keep it free and keep it safe, as the media knows, but refuses to say. My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror. To be clear, this is not a Muslim ban, as the media is falsely reporting. This is not about religion - this is about terror and keeping our country safe. There are over 40 different countries worldwide that are majority Muslim that are not affected by this order. We will again be issuing visas to all countries once we are sure we have reviewed and implemented the most secure policies over the next 90 days. I have tremendous feeling for the people involved in this horrific humanitarian crisis in Syria. My first priority will always be to protect and serve our country, but as President I will find ways to help all those who are suffering.”
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soren Knowflake Posts: 3509 From: infinite backwards point Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 16, 2017 11:40 PM
oops it was from 1 year ago he said it in a speach where he was showing people his policies. i thought it was from last week thats good then. he changed. in that case the changing of the endangered species act doesnt seem so bad. piling of bad deeds is not good in my eyes; but it was my own misunderstanding. since they arent too bad with the terrorist country ban, then it gives them more credibility for the endangered species thing. they probably just want to check and make sure theres a couple falcons on there that shouldnt be and take them off. lol idk. well that's what they'd hope is there is animals on there that have no risk of being endangered or are falsely accused of being truly at risk. so they think there is pointless rules *perhaps* hampering their goals. i really hope they dont remove any that really are at risk. sorry this wasnt astrological related i guess should keep convos political in another forum IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3509 From: infinite backwards point Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 17, 2017 12:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by soren: piling of bad deeds is not good in my eyes; but it was my own misunderstanding.
^^ Yeah, I think litteraly 100% of the time when someone is thinking another is wrong for being the way they are it's because they misunderstood their true intentions or feelings. Something really interesting about Fear I have found is that you feel fear because your beliefs echo outside of yourself in a metaphysical kind of way, and when you start believing things that are not coherent with the "truth" of reality that actually "is" reflecting back at you you feel wrong. It's cause this universe is alive and you feel it as well. Fear is a result of thoughts which are not coherent with the metaphysical reflecting towards you. When you feel love is when you understand truth. Just remember this when you feel fear- you are believing that something which is not true is true and you feel it metaphysically. The universe is high love and when you know the truth you feel immense love because that is all there is. The phrase "The truth sets you free" was coined by some oblivious human but it has it's roots in metaphysics. They probably spoke from experience but didn't realize they were so right. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 76331 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 17, 2017 12:29 AM
Those 7 have collapsed governments.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 6395 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 17, 2017 12:31 AM
Very interesting insight Soren. I have always love that quote and thanks for bringing it up, you actually confirmed something important to me related to someone I was helping earlier today for which I needed confirmation I did the right thing. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3509 From: infinite backwards point Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 17, 2017 12:35 AM
yeah randall i understand but also maybe they collapsed because there was a corrupt gov and the people being hurt faught back. both sides of a coin hypatia thats good i hope it's true it seems plausible here is another quote saying the same thing but i think its explained better i want to say it again so infact they probably did change something but how m uch, i am thinking 30% which may be why it disturbs me, you generally get disturbed when you are believing in false information, it is felt in the universe that you are resonating something out which is not coherent with the true vibrations out there; IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 1112 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted February 17, 2017 12:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Yep the left is destroying itself and conservatives are the new counter culture. @Soren. Trump did not ban all Muslims, he banned seven countries known for terrorism and some of which we are at war with. The Obama administration came up with that list actually and Trump used that list strategically so he can then point out Obama came up with it when the biased media would predictably start to attack him unfairly and hypocritically over it. Further is a temporary ban for 90 days designed to give Trump's administration enough time to come up with a screening process to properly vet people coming in from those countries for safety reasons. The top 5 countries with Muslims were actually not banned!! Video: The truth about Trump's Muslim Ban http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JNu4xU9qOEM
Statement Trump Made Regarding Recent Executive Order Concerning Extreme Vetting:
“America is a proud nation of immigrants and we will continue to show compassion to those fleeing oppression, but we will do so while protecting our own citizens and border. America has always been the land of the free and home of the brave. We will keep it free and keep it safe, as the media knows, but refuses to say. My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror. To be clear, this is not a Muslim ban, as the media is falsely reporting. This is not about religion - this is about terror and keeping our country safe. There are over 40 different countries worldwide that are majority Muslim that are not affected by this order. We will again be issuing visas to all countries once we are sure we have reviewed and implemented the most secure policies over the next 90 days. I have tremendous feeling for the people involved in this horrific humanitarian crisis in Syria. My first priority will always be to protect and serve our country, but as President I will find ways to help all those who are suffering.”
The media lacks details and lacks insight, so the sheeples believe what their eyes see. And we all know that the eyes deceive! IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3509 From: infinite backwards point Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 17, 2017 12:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sulkyarcher: The media lacks details and lacks insight, so the sheeples believe what their eyes see. And we all know that the eyes deceive!
I know that each individual person is guided and shaped from god even the 'poor' republicans are making it. i know god guides me 100% in the most amazing ways eta: im not sure what i meant when i said "making it" maybe i meant making the legislations with their own ideas IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 9678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 17, 2017 12:47 AM
We have had NO terrorists from the affected countries. I continue to be amazed by the people who still support him. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3509 From: infinite backwards point Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 17, 2017 12:53 AM
once they come here they are in the same percentage of likelihood as causing injury just as much as anyone else. it is the dry land which they can not have it easy with. there's a reason with that said there is so much stigma about muslims in the US that it just "feels right" to show the world how they feel about terrorists. not saying muslims are terrorists but its reflecting that they dont like terrorist attacks basically and will fight against them. seeing that last year tens of thousands of muslims in europe agreed that the quaran needed "modernation" to take out the parts about hurting other people i think that it's just a society is progressing and its no ones fault IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 6395 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 17, 2017 12:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by soren: yeah randall i understand but also maybe they collapsed because there was a corrupt gov and the people being hurt faught back. both sides of a coin hypatia thats good i hope it's true it seems plausible here is another quote saying the same thing but i think its explained better i want to say it again so infact they probably did change something but how m uch, i am thinking 30% which may be why it disturbs me, you generally get disturbed when you are believing in false information, it is felt in the universe that you are resonating something out which is not coherent with the true vibrations out there;
I hated mainstream media even back when I was a teen and a kid. Even in my early college years when I was a liberal I hated mainstream media too and I realized later on that is bc of what you are saying, I didn't know they were selling B.S. logically but every cell in my body rejected it without knowing why, the why is that 'truth metaphysical concept' that you are telling me about, I get what you mean and it fascinates me. I remember 911 and how the media kept playing over and over and over and over again the towers falling, it felt they were trying to condition us and brainwash us or perhaps it was about the ratings, my gut tells me both. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3509 From: infinite backwards point Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 17, 2017 01:02 AM
that's a perfect example of what i was talking about. same with black matter i never believed in it it just didnt seem right and last year they disproved it. cant imagine what kind of horrible negativity they were going through to concieve such an idea! it must have felt SOO bad!! hahahahah im just kidding im making fun of them because i hate Black matter!!! IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 6395 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 17, 2017 01:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sulkyarcher: The media lacks details and lacks insight, so the sheeples believe what their eyes see. And we all know that the eyes deceive!
Right on. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 6395 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 17, 2017 01:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by soren: that's a perfect example of what i was talking about. same with black matter i never believed in it it just didnt seem right and last year they disproved it. cant imagine what kind of horrible negativity they were going through to concieve such an idea! it must have felt SOO bad!! hahahahah im just kidding im making fun of them because i hate Black matter!!!
LOL hahaha cute IP: Logged |
VirgoPILL Knowflake Posts: 435 From: cosmos Registered: Oct 2015
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posted February 17, 2017 09:11 AM
'black matter' is black lives matter?
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soren Knowflake Posts: 3509 From: infinite backwards point Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 17, 2017 09:35 AM
*dark matterIP: Logged |
VirgoPILL Knowflake Posts: 435 From: cosmos Registered: Oct 2015
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posted February 17, 2017 09:43 AM
ah ok, sorry ^^IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 980 From: CH Registered: Jul 2016
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posted February 17, 2017 10:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: We have had NO terrorists from the affected countries. I continue to be amazed by the people who still support him.
right on! there has been no terrorism caused by these countries. In fact Trump has probably banned Iran, only because it's a Shia Islam country, and those other countries, probably to pretend that it isn't all about Iran. Before the Islamic revolution in Iran in the 70s, it was a country hugely favored by the US, only because its then time king, was ready to give in to the bullying politics of the US. After the Shia revolution, the Iranians were the first country ever to declare that they will refuse to be dictated by the US. The first thing the US did was to order Saddam Hussain and give him all the war equipment needed to attack Iran and bring the new system down. Well the war ended and Iran stood up. Shia muslims believe that they practice the real Islam. They also believe that Wahabis (the Saudi Kingdom) has been created by the UK government to cause war between Shia and Sunni muslims. In fact, before the Saudi was created in the 30s by the UK, there never was any fight between Shia and sunnis, like it is now, with Daesh (wahabis) continuing to execute, murder and behead Shia muslims in both Iraq and Syria. Looking at the history, we observe that Iran never attacked another country, and only defended itself from outside attacks (ordered by the US). After the US was unsuccessful during its 8 year war with Iran in the 80s, both the US and the UK came up with planning, training and arming Al Qaeda and Daesh, both to bring Iran and Syria down. Trump did this to kiss some serious Saudi and Israeli a**, only to suck up all their money. And then banned Syria, because Assad also refuses to surrender to US's bullying like Iran. Let's not forget how Palestine was invaded in the 40s, and millions of innocent people died, just for a blood-thirsty regime to be created where Illuminati call their holy, God-given, whatever land. Iran ban is definitely suggested to Trump by Walid Phares, the monster behind the Sabra and Shatila massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre also, Hillary Clinton mentioning clearly in her book (as if she's actually proud!) how they planned, and armed Daesh as an indirect way to attack Iran and Syria. Makes me sick, but what else can you expect, from the government who killed its own people on 9/11. With Trump being the president, it's as if the world is finally beginning to see what the US government really is like. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 6395 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 17, 2017 11:44 AM
Did you guys ignore that the list of those 7 countries is a list that the Obama administration came up with yet Obama did not get attacked for it. Did you ignore is a 90 day ban so 3 months and Obama did a 6 month ban. Did you ignore the top 5 countries with Muslims were not banned along with a bunch of other Muslim countries as well so is clearly not a Muslim Ban. Further those 7 countries may not have caused major terrorism in the US but we are at war with some of them and they have been bringing terrorism to Europe, there has been a lot of terrorist attacks in Europe involving those countries and a lot of Refugees are raping European women bc in their culture it's OK to rape a woman on the streets who is unattended. Anyways he is noticing a lot of these countries are causing terrorist attacks in Europe and Trump is not going to have policies that can lead to that spreading here and again some of those countries we are at war with or went to war with!! Again Obama administration came up with that list!!!!!!!! So why did you not attack Obama then when he came up with that list if you had a problem with it?? let me guess that you did not find out about it bc Obama can do no wrong and mainstream media did not cover it bc he is untouchable bc he is a globalist puppet? Mind you is a temporary ban anyways, he will continue to let people from those countries come in legally once they are properly vetted. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 6395 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 17, 2017 12:11 PM
Total hypocrisy: Obama routinely bombed 5 out of the 7 countries Trump just banned, but the media said nothing(Natural News) While the lying media is freaking out over President Trump‘s (temporary) travel ban for seven Middle Eastern countries deemed security risks, they didn’t give a damn about Obama bombing them. (Article by Chris Menahan from InformationLiberation.com) Though the media is currently in a tizzy because Trump’s executive order held up around 300 people at airports, Obama’s bombings were reported as completely reasonable to bring about peace. Out of the seven countries that were banned by President Trump last Friday, five were bombed by the Obama administration: Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya and Somalia. Where were the George Soros funded organizations protesting the “nearly 100 attacks” that have occurred since 2009 in Yemen “resulting in the deaths of hundreds of militants, but also many civilians?” Did Chuck Schumer shed a tear for the 62 Syrian troops killed and 100 more wounded that the Obama administration “accidentally bombed” in 2016? Did Schumer openly weep when the Obama administration was “duped into attacking Somali troops” and killed 22 of them in an air strike late last year? It’s fine for the Nobel Peace Prize winning President to bomb these people in their own countries, but for President Trump to temporarily prevent them from traveling to our country to keep America safe is “un-American” and “unconstitutional.” http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-01-30-obama-bombe d-5-out-of-the-7-countries-trump-just-banned-but-the-media-said-nothing.html Where was the outrage then? So don't call Trump supporters delusional before taking a real hard look at yourself and your own party first. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 2577 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 17, 2017 01:33 PM
I have to say something. It's funny to me how Trump has run on a platform of undoing EVERYTHING Obama has done and on doing the OPPOSiTE. According to Trump and his supporters, Obama did NOTHING RIGHT. NOTHING. But when the Trump administration faces heat for taking certain actions, it quickly fall back on the "but Obama did the same!" This happened with the travel ban, and it also happened with that raid in Yemen. Lame and disingenuous excuse if you ask me, because first of all, the actions were not the same. Secondly, Trump and his supporters have routinely painted a picture of Obama protecting and colluding with Islamist terrorists, claiming he was soft on them and was putting America in danger. Yet, now listening to them using Obama's past actions as a justification for their current, it appears that there were things in the Obama administration that they indeed LOVED and seemingly couldn't wait to EMULATE!!! Sigh... This country is on a dangerous spiral of factionalism and there is a lot of dishonesty at the helm. I am blaming it on Transit Jupiter in Libra squaring the country's sun when Trump was elected, and now squaring the country's Pluto. Excesses, untruth, lack of humility and inability to admit wrongdoing, fanaticism, lack of wisdom abound. I hope things get better for the US when Jupiter goes into Scorpio. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 2577 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 17, 2017 02:04 PM
Have Trump's supporters spent time comparing his chart to the US chart? Trump's North Node, sun and to some extent Uranus conjunct the US' Mars. So yes, danger of war is more likely with Trump. The US has a very well placed Saturn in Libra. Exalted position. Wonderful for a nation that leads the rest of the world. It squares US's Cancer sun, keeps it from getting too out of line and too emotional and manipulative which Cancer is famous for doing. Trump has Jupiter on the US's Saturn, causing it to go big where it should go small, causing it to have lack of restraint where it should exercise caution. It can also make it more fearful than it should be. Saturn is exalted in Libra and has nothing positive to learn from Jupiter conjuncting it there. Nothing. The US' Neptune squares Trump's Nodes, sun and moon. Hmmm, lies, lies and more lies in this partnership. You are astrologers. I am not telling you nothing new. Trump's saturn is in detriment and it opposes the US' Pluto in Cap. Saturn/Pluto conflicts are nuclear. Also, it sits like a wet blank on the US' mercury, whining and complaining about the US press and the media. Trump will try to curtail freedom of speech and of the press, but he will not be successful. The US' moon opposes Trump's Mars. I know some people call this a HOT aspect, but we're not trying to have sex with Trump. What this aspect means for the US is that his actions are going to be upsetting and disturbing to the country's mood and psyche. Would you like to have that aspect in a friend or business partner? would you like to have that aspect with your boss? The US's NN is in Trump's 12th house. That doesn't sound good. There are so many red flags. The few positive aspects are not enough to balance the hard ones. If this were a synastry between people, most of us would pass having a relationship of any kind. ETA: Sorry, I kept rewriting and editing this post. IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 992 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted February 17, 2017 02:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Have Trump's supporters spent time comparing his chart to the US chart? Trump's North Node, sun and to some extent Uranus conjunct the US' Mars. So yes, danger of war is more likely with Trump. The US has a very well placed Saturn in Libra. Exalted position. Wonderful for a nation that leads the rest of the world. It squares US's Cancer sun, keeps it from getting too out of line and too emotional and manipulative which Cancer is famous for doing. Trump has Jupiter on the US's Saturn, causing it to go big where it should go small, causing it to have lack of restraint where it should exercise caution. Saturn is exalted in Libra and has nothing positive to learn from Jupiter conjuncting it there. No bueno. The US' Neptune squares Trump's Nodes, sun and moon. Hmmm, lies, lies and more lies in this partnership. Trump's saturn is in detriment/fall and it opposes the US' Pluto in Capp. The US is approaching a Pluto return, so guess who is going to be feeling the heat? The detrimental Saturn of Trump, that's who. Also, it sits like a wet blank on the US' mercury, whining and complaining about the press and the media. The US' moon opposes Trump's Mars. I know some people call this a HOT aspect, but we're not trying to have sex with Trump. What this aspect means for the US is that in the end, his actions are going to be upsetting to the country's mood and psyche. The US's NN is in Trump's 12th house. I mean, there are so many red flags. If this were a synastry between people, we would be saying be careful!
Yes to this and the post you made before this one!!!! Some people have too much of an idealized image of Trump and because of that will never see why so many others are concerned. IP: Logged |