posted February 17, 2017 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Yes to this and the post you made before this one!!!! Some people have too much of an idealized image of Trump and because of that will never see why so many others are concerned.

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Trump himself has said "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters." What does that tell you about his supporters? that they are fanatics, who have lost all moral compass and logic.

posted February 17, 2017 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
yeah randall i understand but also maybe they collapsed because there was a corrupt gov and the people being hurt faught back. both sides of a coin

hypatia thats good i hope it's true it seems plausible here is another quote saying the same thing but i think its explained better i want to say it again

so infact they probably did change something but how m uch, i am thinking 30% which may be why it disturbs me, you generally get disturbed when you are believing in false information, it is felt in the universe that you are resonating something out which is not coherent with the true vibrations out there;

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posted February 17, 2017 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Yes to this and the post you made before this one!!!! Some people have too much of an idealized image of Trump and because of that will never see why so many others are concerned.

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posted February 17, 2017 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I idolize Ron Paul and always will, he deserves it. I do NOT idolize Trump, I like him, I defend him bc of the extreme toxic reaction of the left towards him that is causing so much division.

When you hate someone you don't see that person clearly or the facts clearly related to that person so is not Trump supporters the problem, is the hate of the left towards him that is not letting them see clearly how they are been biased while they worship Obama and ignore all the messed up things he did and did not deliver including affordable health care, the premiums actually went up while he was president.

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posted February 17, 2017 03:58 PM            

Premiums had been steadily going up for decades before Obamacare. Had he not done anything, premium would have still continue to rise because there was nothing in place to keep premiums from rising.

Imo, Obamacare is one of the areas where Obama floundered. His intentions were good in the beginning. But dealing with relentless opposition from the Republicans who had nothing of substance to propose in term of healthcare but just wanted to obstruct ANYTHING Obama did just because, in order to get his plan approved, he ended up making so many concessions to the drugs and insurance companies that in the end, the plan became problematic.

Now that the Trump administration is in power, I am waiting to see how they are going to do better. How they are going to magically reverse the rise in premium while keeping the provision about pre-existing conditions, not throwing the indigents out without insurance, and at the same time keep the drugs and insurance companis happy.

posted February 17, 2017 06:01 PM            

Also, I don't know if you are aware but a lot of people don't like to be forced to pay for healthcare insurance especially when is so expensive. Obamacare made the cost of health insurance go up and Obamacare itself is very expensive.

Further Trump is not taking away Obamacare till he replaces it with something better!

Now his approval ratings keep going up so its pretty predictable he will win again in 4 years bc conservatives are the new counter culture. Ask yourself why is that the case? Counter cultures happen when one side has gone to an extreme leading a party to destroy itself and more people to change parties as a result. Also people's trust in the media is at an all time low and people that hate Trump consume mainstream media but more and more people are waking up to the huge charade and joke mainstream media is.

posted February 17, 2017 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Because Trump was the people choice, irrespective of his vices, because the alternative was 1000x scarier.

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posted February 17, 2017 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
His approval ratings have gone up bc people are seeing he is keeping his promises and has done more than any other president before him in such a short period of time. Further he said on his press conference this week he is just getting started, that the really hard work will start next week. He is a man of results who keeps his promises and calls mainstream media out, he works for the people instead of globalists.

Also, I don't know if you are aware but a lot of people don't like to be forced to pay for healthcare insurance especially when is so expensive. Obamacare made the cost of health insurance go up and Obamacare itself is very expensive.

Further Trump is not taking away Obamacare till he replaces it with something better!

Now his approval ratings keep going up its pretty predictable he will win again in 4 years bc conservatives are the new counter culture. Ask yourself why is that the case? Counter cultures happen when one side has gone to an extreme leading a party to destroy itself and more people to change parties as a result. Also people's trust in the media is at an all time low and people that hate Trump consume mainstream media but more and more people are waking up to the huge charade and joke mainstream media is.

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posted February 17, 2017 06:38 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
At most, 27% of the country voted for him, and he's losing supporters.

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That is a highly misleading statistic propagated by Vox, obviously not everyone votes on election day LOL. FYI his approval rating is at 55% as of this week. Part of the reason he won is bc people were delusional about his popularity thanks to the MS media and dishonest polls making him appear unpopular when he is not.

The Rasmussen polls were the polls that were the closest to the election results, they are the polls that have proven to be more reliable and honest and based on those polls he is at 55% approval rating this week. If you keep paying attention to dishonest polls you will get a heart attack when he wins again.
http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_tra ck_feb17

posted February 17, 2017 06:49 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
That is a highly misleading statistic propagated by Vox, obviously not everyone votes on election day LOL. FYI his approval rating is at 55% as of this week. Part of the reason he won is bc people were delusional about his popularity thanks to the MS media and dishonest polls making him appear unpopular when he is not.

The Rasmussen polls were the polls that were the closest to the election results, they are the polls that have proven to be more reliable and honest and based on those polls he is at 55% approval rating this week. If you keep paying attention to dishonest polls you will get a heart attack when he wins again.
http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_tra ck_feb17

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Please don't bring up heart attacks around me. My mother had major heart surgery, and died from an aortic aneurysm. You talk about people shaming others politically, but you're just as insensitive.

posted February 17, 2017 07:02 PM            

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I have always looked at polls I am just selective as to what polls I look at bc a lot of them are biased and deceptive.

I mentioned heart attack bc is no secret that a lot of the left have not dealt with Trump winning in a normal healthy way.

I was sensitive but you then called Trump supporters delusional.

posted February 22, 2017 01:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Maybe someday the left will accept that their candidate lost.

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Maybe one day, the trump supporters (not "the right" because plenty of republicans hate him), will stop being nasty to US. You insult us, and then expect us to not use words like "delusional" in response to you.

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posted February 24, 2017 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Was Obama a dictator when he did something similar in 2015?

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Trump cannot burp but Obama can.......well, I am too angry to elaborate on the multitude of ways he betrayed us!

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